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Strangely enough, this premiere felt even darker than Breaking Bad did when it first started.
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Feb 9, 2015 07:44
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Steve Yun posted:Strangely enough, this premiere felt even darker than Breaking Bad did when it first started. It starts with you viewing the life of a completely broken man who goes home to an empty house, pours a drink, and then clandestinely watches his old lawyer commercials. I could loving believe it when that tape was aired of the kids loving the decapitated head. I knew that this show was going to be heavy on black comedy but I didn't think that much.
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Feb 9, 2015 08:02
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That's one of the best pilots/premier I've seen
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Feb 9, 2015 08:16
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Awesome premier. I about crapped my pants when Tuco walked out the door.
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Feb 9, 2015 08:33
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thexerox123 posted:That was so good. I can't wait until tomorrow night's episode. I imagine Vince Gilligan asked "how many windshields can we smash?" while breaking the first episode in the writer's room. At this point, it's a running joke that will never get old. I have to say, I was cautiously optimistic seeing as how this is a spin-off, and I really didn't know how they would pull it off. I know it's just the first episode, but I will never question Vince Gilligan again. That was amazing. And as a longtime fan of Odenkirk going back to Mr. Show, I'm really loving happy to see him continue to play the role he was born to play, and in a lead role. He has become such a great actor.
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Feb 9, 2015 08:37
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KilGrey posted:Awesome premier. I about crapped my pants when Tuco walked out the door. I knew it was gonna happen and I still lost my poo poo.
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Feb 9, 2015 08:37
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:I knew it was gonna happen and I still lost my poo poo. Man am I glad I avoided all spoilers and previews. I knew there was going to be "another important character" from Breaking Bad making an appearance, but I did not see Tuco coming. I busted up laughing in excitement when he came into frame.
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Feb 9, 2015 08:40
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Exploder posted:And as a longtime fan of Odenkirk going back to Mr. Show, I'm really loving happy to see him continue to play the role he was born to play, and in a lead role. He has become such a great actor. I hear you. No one says stuff like "GOD DAMNIT!" better than Bob Odenkirk.
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Feb 9, 2015 08:41
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Steve Yun posted:Strangely enough, this premiere felt even darker than Breaking Bad did when it first started.
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Feb 9, 2015 08:42
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Holy poo poo what an amazing first episode, is this just a single season thing?
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Feb 9, 2015 08:43
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Nope, its already got a season 2.
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Feb 9, 2015 08:53
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JustTheWorst posted:In that 'A Look at the Series' video posted above they kind of say both yes and no. Vince Gilligan says he doesn't think you have to have seen BB to enjoy it, and Peter Gould says that there's a lot of things that hardcore fans are really going to enjoy. I'm sure it'll be able to stand on it's own, but there's probably going to be things that don't mean anything to you not having seen BB. Never having seen more than the first 2 or 3 episodes of Breaking Bad, this was exceptionally shot, written, acted and cast. It's really good.
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Feb 9, 2015 09:34
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I can't stop cracking up at him calling the defendants knuckleheads.
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Feb 9, 2015 09:37
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This show already has some of the best framing I've ever seen in a TV show. Since Breaking Bad, of course. The lighting in the parking garage, the boardroom...the loving house with the light pointing right onto Michael McKean. I love it. I love it all.
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Feb 9, 2015 09:50
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In BB tradition this looks more like movie cinematography than something that was produced for television. And yes the wiki page says this season is 10 eps with another 13 already bought for season 2.
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Feb 9, 2015 10:29
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Haha a half-page of just "TUCO" posts. This show is way better than I thought it would be when the idea was first thrown around.
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Feb 9, 2015 10:38
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Frostwerks posted:Never having seen more than the first 2 or 3 episodes of Breaking Bad, this was exceptionally shot, written, acted and cast. It's really good. You should watch Breaking Bad, for serious, the show will have way more impact on you if you do; just from this first episode. It's a really well-made show straight-off, though.
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Feb 9, 2015 10:49
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Gnome Enthusiast posted:Nope, its already got a season 2. Takes No Damage posted:In BB tradition this looks more like movie cinematography than something that was produced for television. And yes the wiki page says this season is 10 eps with another 13 already bought for season 2.  When I first heard about this I thought maybe they were running a risk of not having quite the same magic as before, but if that first episode was anything to go by then this show is going to be incredible.
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Feb 9, 2015 11:10
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Frostwerks posted:Never having seen more than the first 2 or 3 episodes of Breaking Bad, this was exceptionally shot, written, acted and cast. It's really good. I can't recommend Breaking Bad enough, but honestly, I'd be interested to see what someone thinks of at least the first season without any Breaking Baggage influencing their opinion. That said, knowledge of at least the first season of BB made the final scene the biggest  moment since the Mountain and the Viper.
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Feb 9, 2015 11:28
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That whole opening sequence was of course amazing in Nebraska - I especially loved the wide-angle shot of the mall after Saul had emerged from his Cinnabon to place a lame graphic stand out, with the parquet floor reflecting into infinity between the chrome of the escalators. Perfectly evokes the empty flat wasteland of nothing that is both my experience of Nebraska as a place and what Saul's post-lawyer life appears to be. Also: that's a Rusty Nail he makes for himself when he gets to his condo in Omaha - Scotch and Drambuie. A man's cocktail, to be sure. There were so many great lines, too, that just crack me up in retrospect. Like "Near-honor students, all, your Honor!" I was a near-honor student, myself. Also this was mentioned somewhere but the sound design in the silence of that courtroom was amazing, from all the annoying little noises to the sound of the TV being wheeled over to the fact that they even got the high-pitched whining buzz you hear in silent rooms that have that awful flourescent lighting (like courtrooms!). They even got that onto the soundtrack, it's impressive. So many courtrooms don't look like actual courtrooms, too - that looks just like it did the one time I actually went to court to content a speeding ticket.
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Feb 9, 2015 11:45
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Great episode, took a little while to come together but man, so glad the breaking bad 'world' is back. That intro was fantastic too, Saul looks so sad.
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Feb 9, 2015 11:47
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It's up on Netflix already.
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Feb 9, 2015 11:57
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Krinkle posted:I can't stop cracking up at him calling the defendants knuckleheads. "Buying alcohol while underage, having sex with a severed head. As the old saying goes, 'knuckleheads will be knuckleheads.'." kaworu posted:That whole opening sequence was of course amazing in Nebraska - I especially loved the wide-angle shot of the mall after Saul had emerged from his Cinnabon to place a lame graphic stand out, with the parquet floor reflecting into infinity between the chrome of the escalators. Perfectly evokes the empty flat wasteland of nothing that is both my experience of Nebraska as a place and what Saul's post-lawyer life appears to be. I got this completely too. I imagine that Odenkirk's performance in Nebraska is what helped get the execs on board with him playing a serious character, thus the homage in the beginning.
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Feb 9, 2015 12:01
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Structurally it was maybe a little off, especially compared to the masterful BB pilot, but based on the moment to moment I have to echo the excitement here. It's a little disconcerting to see such a familiar tone and style applied to new characters and events, something only made more striking by the flash-forward and nods back to BB. I want to treat this like its own show and it really works better as one, but its hard when the thing keeps nudging me with an elbow. I don't imagine this will be an issue for the writers or viewers for very long though and it doesn't seem like they've lost any of the craft, so it should be a great two-plus seasons. It's not what I used to bring up when trying to sell the show to people - back when it still needed to be sold - but my favourite part of BB was always the precision of its observations, the little intricate systems of detail that they would set spinning and come back to, never dropping a piece even as the universe expanded outwards. That was still going on here in the courtroom, in the Brother's house, in the skater plan and I imagine the web can only get more complicated from here. Can't wait.
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Feb 9, 2015 12:20
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kaworu posted:That whole opening sequence was of course amazing in Nebraska Any modern entertainment that opens with an Ink Spots song is going to turn out to be deep black gold, as has been proven for almost 20 years now
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Feb 9, 2015 12:27
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I'm sure it's been discussed but what was the deal with Chuck exactly? Is he a super villain who can't be trusted around electricity?
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Feb 9, 2015 14:07
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Lycus posted:Haha a half-page of just "TUCO" posts. It's got way more potential than I gave it credit for. I went in with a very low bar, but I'd not be unhappy if I went in with a high bar.
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Feb 9, 2015 14:10
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Alan Smithee posted:I'm sure it's been discussed but what was the deal with Chuck exactly? Is he a super villain who can't be trusted around electricity? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity basically he's crazy
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Feb 9, 2015 14:12
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Can't wait for
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Feb 9, 2015 15:02
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RandomPauI posted:I hear you. No one says stuff like "GOD DAMNIT!" better than Bob Odenkirk. Odenkirk has always been my favorite swearsmith. His delivery is impeccable.
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Feb 9, 2015 15:10
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With these post-BB black and white scenes, I wonder if Gilligan is going to resist telling us what happens with Jesse.
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Feb 9, 2015 15:13
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Lycus posted:With these post-BB black and white scenes, I wonder if Gilligan is going to resist telling us what happens with Jesse. My gut feeling (nothing to base it on at all) is the longer the show goes on, the more likely it is we see post-Breaking Bad stuff. So in my own mind, it's a good sign that it's already been picked up for a second season. It seems to me that with master lawyer Saul being out there, resenting what his life has become, and Jesse needing to escape the law, there's a story to tell there. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Feb 9, 2015 |
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Feb 9, 2015 15:23
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I am amazed, I expected something OK and got blasted with awesome. I can't wait for the next show.
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Feb 9, 2015 15:25
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Nail Rat posted:My gut feeling (nothing to base it on at all) is the longer the show goes on, the more likely it is we see post-Breaking Bad stuff. So in my own mind, it's a good sign that it's already been picked up for a second season. Uh how would that work, they don't where each other are or if they are even alive. Best bet for Jesse is in the pre BB part of the show, since he did know Saul before.
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Feb 9, 2015 15:27
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Zythrst posted:Uh how would that work, they don't where each other are or if they are even alive. Best bet for Jesse is in the pre BB part of the show, since he did know Saul before. Uh, I don't know how it would work, that's why it's a potential story. Jesse just being tracked down by the cops a few weeks after the shootout and getting the blame for everything that happened at Jack's ranch seems like a really anticlimactic end for him.
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Feb 9, 2015 15:28
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Nail Rat posted:It seems to me that with master lawyer Saul being out there, resenting what his life has become, and Jesse needing to escape the law, there's a story to tell there. It's pretty anticlimactic if the cops just catch up to Jesse a few weeks/months later and he gets the blame for everything that happened at Jack's ranch, while Saul just languishes in obscurity for 25k a year. Hopefully they never deal with that at all and leave that story finished.
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Feb 9, 2015 15:30
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Am I the only one who didn't know who the guy with the gun at the end was? I haven't seen Tuco in like six years (I'd recognize his grill though) and I've been watching Weeds and I guess I muddled all those wild criminals Crazy Eight Tuco U-Turn Guillermo together a bit in my head.
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Feb 9, 2015 15:35
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Aaron Paul playing a high schooler at this point would be terrible. The story of the main cast of Breaking Bad (that is the White/Schrader family and Jesse) is done and needs to stay done. This show can do all the fleshing out of supporting characters that it wants though.
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Feb 9, 2015 15:46
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Frankly, I really hope they stay far away from Jesse and Walt. Their story was (extremely well) told and is done. Beefing up the backstory of some of our favorite side characters is great while we dive deep into Saul. Keep the mystery about Gus, but maybe have a few tiny bits of context thrown in for the careful viewer. Maybe a throw-away line about some up and coming drug lord or about a renegade Chilean general. I don't know. But keep it high level. I'd rather get a lot more into Skinny Pete than Gus, TBH.
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Feb 9, 2015 15:49
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 I'll recognize this psychopath for the rest of my life. TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT!
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Feb 9, 2015 15:52
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