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Evil_Greven posted:Looks like video changes another outcome.
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Did they pull him over? When I watched that video, it looked to me like they hit him with their car.
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Feb 8, 2015 00:34
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ImAMinister posted:Did they pull him over? When I watched that video, it looked to me like they hit him with their car. They did. Those two cops have that "serial killer" look to them. I wouldn't be surprised if someone stumbled upon a body or three.
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Feb 8, 2015 02:30
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That seems like an awfully good resolution to that situation overall, with him getting a settlement and the cops getting arrested and charged. What is amiss?
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Feb 8, 2015 02:37
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Vahakyla posted:That seems like an awfully good resolution to that situation overall, with him getting a settlement and the cops getting arrested and charged. The fact that it happened at all?
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peengers posted:The fact that it happened at all? And the fact that it takes video evidence of wrongdoing to turn "resisting arrest" and "assault of a police officer" into "beaten for fleeing cops using who were using the threat of violence from moment 1"? Or the fact that it took two years after the man's arrest for anything to come of it, because his girlfriend hunted down the footage that no one on the cops' side even seemed interested in finding to investigate the "official" story?
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Feb 8, 2015 03:08
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Yeah you can't say the system works when it took a private citizen to do the actual investigation that found the real criminals.
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Sounds like that system works perfectly well. Just not for us.
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Feb 8, 2015 17:16
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Vahakyla posted:That seems like an awfully good resolution to that situation overall, with him getting a settlement and the cops getting arrested and charged. I have a question for you. After you read the article, what in the whole processes stood out as "good" to you? Not talking about the outcome/resolution. I'm talking about the whole processes before the officers were brought to justice and this guy went through hell for 2 years.
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Radish posted:Yeah you can't say the system works when it took a private citizen to do the actual investigation that found the real criminals. So you're saying the system works! I'm not sure why we have a chosen a system in which only unquestionable video evidence dug up by a private citizen can force the cops to actually investigate two of their own for instigating a confrontation and beating an innocent man then charging him with crimes for his own beating, but as we can see this system inarguably works!
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tezcat posted:I have a question for you. After you read the article, what in the whole processes stood out as "good" to you? Not talking about the outcome/resolution. I'm talking about the whole processes before the officers were brought to justice and this guy went through hell for 2 years. Considering the usual course of similar situations, I'd call this an overall win. Considering that the DA and the Chief of Police are both trashing the cops in their speeches, I'd call that a pretty good outcome compared to the way the strangler of Eric Garner or Darren Wilson were defended. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Feb 8, 2015 |
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Feb 8, 2015 18:33
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Vahakyla posted:Considering the usual course of similar situations, I'd call this an overall win. Considering that the DA and the Chief of Police are both trashing the cops in their speeches, I'd call that a pretty good outcome compared to the way the strangler of Eric Garner or Darren Wilson were defended. Despite the outcome, which is as good as it can be given the circumstances, you specifically asked what is amiss. Can you really not see the issue at hand? Do you really see nothing wrong with the entire ordeal?
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Taeke posted:Despite the outcome, which is as good as it can be given the circumstances, you specifically asked what is amiss. I asked "what is amiss" by meaning that the outcome seems deceptively decent when compared to other current similar events. I'm silently expecting these cops to be reinstated or some poo poo.
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Vahakyla posted:I asked "what is amiss" by meaning that the outcome seems deceptively decent when compared to other current similar events. I'm silently expecting these cops to be reinstated or some poo poo. Ah, sorry, I see now you meant it as a quip towards the unexpected good outcome and not towards those that question the process that preceded it. It's been a long day and I'm bad at catching humor when I'm tired. I agree though, the outcome is almost too good to be true. Here's to hoping it's the start of a pattern of improvement. (Who am I kidding?)
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Looks like Drinking Arizona Iced Tea while black isn't actually a crime, how about that, glad we got that sorted out. http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/02/case-dismissed-man-aggressively-arrested-video-drinking-iced-tea-public/
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Here's a tip: If you have an elderly relative who recently underwent heart surgery, and you can't get in touch with them and are worried that they may be in trouble, maybe don't ask the police to do a welfare check.
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Maybe you still should, you know.
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Depending on where I live I might just have craigslist do that poo poo
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g0del posted:Here's a tip: If you have an elderly relative who recently underwent heart surgery, and you can't get in touch with them and are worried that they may be in trouble, maybe don't ask the police to do a welfare check. When I call up the local gangs to check up on my elderly relatives they don't shoot them 
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g0del posted:Here's a tip: If you have an elderly relative who recently underwent heart surgery, and you can't get in touch with them and are worried that they may be in trouble, maybe don't ask the police to do a welfare check. Reminds me of the guy who called the cops on his 16-year-old son who stole his pickup for a joyride to scare some sense into him and the cops shot the kid dead.
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Radish posted:When I call up the local gangs to check up on my elderly relatives they don't shoot them This is the first time in recent memory that this thread has made me happy.
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Xibanya posted:Reminds me of the guy who called the cops on his 16-year-old son who stole his pickup for a joyride to scare some sense into him and the cops shot the kid dead. "Hi, 911? I'd like to report a felony". . . . "But not really, oh...". Untagged fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Feb 9, 2015 |
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Feb 9, 2015 19:53
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Either you call them for some trivial issue and they kill you or they show up for a seriously violent issue and they kill you. Or you need them and they don't show up and the bad guy kills you.
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here is my foolproof retirement plan -become a dog breeder -get a shitload of expensive dogs -compete in shows, win -get a bunch of pedigreed rear end dogs -build a kennel attached to your home -get insurance on all the expensive rear end dogs -swat yourself -cops kill all the dogs -collect insurance and sue the police -retire
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:Either you call them for some trivial issue and they kill you or they show up for a seriously violent issue and they kill you. Or you need them and they don't show up and the bad guy kills you. There ain't no bad guy. There ain't no good guy. There's only you and me, and we just disagree.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:here is my foolproof retirement plan Make sure after the call to the police you let the dogs loose in your house to ensure they are killed.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:here is my foolproof retirement plan Also, and this is IMPORTANT, Don't be anywhere near your home during the actual swatting, and to be safe make sure you don't come back for at least a few days. Also installing a poo poo load of discrete security cameras ahead of time isn't a bad idea either.
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This American Life focusing on policing for the next two weeks. Haven't finished listening to it, so no idea where they're really going yet. http://www.thisamericanlife.org/
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man they're going to have a hell of a time figuring out whether or not to press charges http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/larry-hostetter-texas-sheriff-police-shooting "for the crime of killing a police officer, you are sentenced to five days in the county jail. thank you for your service, you vile murderer"
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Xibanya posted:Reminds me of the guy who called the cops on his 16-year-old son who stole his pickup for a joyride to scare some sense into him and the cops shot the kid dead.
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ImAMinister posted:Sounds like that system works perfectly well. Just not for us. It works perfectly fine for the people who it's supposed to.
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It doesn't. There is an illusion of that, though.
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I think Superman would spend a lot of his day protecting people from the police. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vrfEoc8_g
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Man, gently caress people who do that poo poo. The cops are not Super Nanny to come swoop in when you're sick of dealing with the entitled little poo poo you raised. Instead they swoop in and kill a kid! Lol why are you always missing the point
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Feral Integral posted:Instead they swoop in and kill a kid! Lol why are you always missing the point
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Some dad in the kids for cash thing had set him up on drug charges to try to scare him straight, and it sent the kid on some for-profit juvenile detention saga that ended in the kid committing suicide. Yeah, smooth move there. http://citizensvoice.com/news/father-of-suicidal-man-in-kids-for-cash-case-i-basically-framed-him-1.1109065 quote:"I basically framed him with my buddies," Kenzakoski said Tuesday. I can't imagine the thought process behind it, but there's rich people sending their kids to extraterritorial camps for talking back, so some parents have some strange views on how to care for their children.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:Some dad in the kids for cash thing had set him up on drug charges to try to scare him straight, and it sent the kid on some for-profit juvenile detention saga that ended in the kid committing suicide. Yeah, smooth move there.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:I can't imagine the thought process behind it, but there's rich people sending their kids to extraterritorial camps for talking back, so some parents have some strange views on how to care for their children. He trusted his cop buddies and didn't think they would let the system screw him over. That was the thought process.
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