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AndyElusive posted:Speaking of Jek Porkins, it annoys me greatly that in order to get his pilot card I need to shell out for a big ugly transport that I'll probably never end up using and hardly have storage space for. If you want, I'd be willing to work out some kind of split-up deal with you. I have an insane need to get 3 Transports in order to run that one mission from the manual, but have no real need for a 5th X-Wing.
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jivjov posted:If you want, I'd be willing to work out some kind of split-up deal with you. I have an insane need to get 3 Transports in order to run that one mission from the manual, but have no real need for a 5th X-Wing. Sure. If you accept PayPal and can ship things internationally since I'm from Canadia, then I'd be down for working something out for whatever you don't need in that set.
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AndyElusive posted:Sure. If you accept PayPal and can ship things internationally since I'm from Canadia, then I'd be down for working something out for whatever you don't need in that set. Eesh...I don't like messing with international shipping...but if and when I end up getting a 2nd Transport, I'll shoot you a message
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AndyElusive posted:Speaking of Jek Porkins, it annoys me greatly that in order to get his pilot card I need to shell out for a big ugly transport that I'll probably never end up using and hardly have storage space for. You take that back. The GR-75 is a beautiful lady!
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Hey guys, I'm thinking about preordering Armada, am I an idiot? y/y? It seems much more expensive this time around. And it looks like mostly the same game. And yet I can't resist these little Star Destroyers, god dammit
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Feb 10, 2015 05:39
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Don't pre-order anything ever.
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Strobe posted:Fair point. So apparently this is working fairly well for me. I've played a few serious games with it, and so far it's come very close to beating a Leebo/Chewie list that was flown very well. Leebo managed to dodge two damage with Determination, or he'd have gone under and I'd have had two ships left to take care of a six hit Chewie. The ability to drat near ignore the Falcon because it couldn't hit a drat thing was fantastic. This list works very well against small numbers of ships, because the evade tokens get proportionally more effective the less attacks you face each turn. The next game I played was against one of the best players in the area running Ten Numb with five Bandits. A Bandit evaporated on the first turn and another lost shields, while every shot except an unblockable crit from Ten got caught by an evade token and some decent green dice. What followed next was a hilarious furball where everything bumped into everything and the Blackmoons' FCS and R7 meant they could pick a target and effectively make it useless for shooting while the A-wings skirted the edge and took potshots. With half his ships unable to inflict any damage at all it was only a matter of time before I could take down Ten and he conceded with two Zs left against two Es and an A.
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Actually the 120+ min play time of Armada has scared me off for now. Couple questions: Are there any different length pegs out there for the standard bases? Would be cool to have some ships at different levels. I've seen some DIY conversions of B-Wing bases with magnets that let them rotate and it looks so sick but I can't make physical things gud  Anyone printerstudio'd alternate art for the pilot cards? Is that  ? In most cases I would prefer some art of the actual pilot than the ship. I've seen the promos with stills from the films, and those are kind of cool but many pilots don't have a live action counterpart and I'd prefer everything to look consistent
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So does anyone have a good way to store the smaller upgrade cards in a binder effectively? I've been trying to find one of those smaller binders to put things in but can't find any card sheets that the small FFG cards fit in.
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fozzy fosbourne posted:Actually the 120+ min play time of Armada has scared me off for now. My B-Wing rotates on the little peg-adapter in the back straight out of the box. I just wish I could keep the cockpit orientation right, I like the look of a B-Wing with the body of the ship to the left of the cockpit (like when it's s-foils are closed) with the cockpit in a normal orientation.
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How does this thread feel about posting hypothetical/homebrew pilots and upgrades for discussion? I've got a few that I really, really wish FFG would do but know they never ever will and I want to see if I'm crazy or not.
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Icon Of Sin posted:My B-Wing rotates on the little peg-adapter in the back straight out of the box. I just wish I could keep the cockpit orientation right, I like the look of a B-Wing with the body of the ship to the left of the cockpit (like when it's s-foils are closed) with the cockpit in a normal orientation. Really? I thought mine could as well, but only ended up snapping the peg fitting.
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Strobe posted:How does this thread feel about posting hypothetical/homebrew pilots and upgrades for discussion? I've got a few that I really, really wish FFG would do but know they never ever will and I want to see if I'm crazy or not. Go for it, at worst people can tell you why it's good they won't be printed.
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Langolas posted:So does anyone have a good way to store the smaller upgrade cards in a binder effectively? I've been trying to find one of those smaller binders to put things in but can't find any card sheets that the small FFG cards fit in. Options were discussed only 5 pages ago. Check page 62. Basically there's sleeves from FFG and sweet 4 pocket Ultra-Pros that store upgrade and pilot cards nicely.
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Endman posted:Don't pre-order anything ever. Blessed is the mind too small for doubt. Also star destroyers are cool.
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Working on a new list for local Store Championships. Here's the base right now: Academy Pilot (12) Academy Pilot (12) Academy Pilot (12) Academy Pilot (12) Academy Pilot (12) “Whisper” + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device (37) 97pts total My questions would be this: Is it worth leaving out Recon Specialist/Fire Control System on Whisper so that I shoot before other PS 9 pilots? Also, is this a terrible list?
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Fire Control System is worth having "only" a one point initiative bid.
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Langolas posted:So does anyone have a good way to store the smaller upgrade cards in a binder effectively? I've been trying to find one of those smaller binders to put things in but can't find any card sheets that the small FFG cards fit in. These fit the upgrade cards perfectly
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General Battuta posted:Go for it, at worst people can tell you why it's good they won't be printed. Welp, here goes. Idea #1) Rogue Squadron Pilot, X-wing. PS6, Elite Pilot Talent slot. 25 points. This makes for a 1:1 skill counterpart with Royal Guard Pilot Interceptors, which is sorely lacking on the rebel side of the field. Generic pilots with EPTs are relatively rare on the Rebel side of the field, counting among their number the Green Squadron Pilot and no others. Generic pilots with mid-high PS are non-existent (Dagger, Red, and Grey Squadron pilots all top out at four and are the highest skill generics on the Rebel side of the board). Contrast with Imperials, who have generic pilots with EPTs in the form of Saber and Black Squadron pilots, as well as Royal Guard Pilots. Imperial generic pilots that match or exceed Rebel skills levels are commonplace (Saber, Black, Gamma, and Storm Squadron Pilots all match the Rebel generic pilot max pilot skill. Shadow Squadron Pilots (Phantoms) at 5 and Royal Guard Pilots at 6 both easily surpass any non-unique Rebel pilot, and quite a few of the unique ones). Therefore, the Rogue Squadron Pilot fills a definite hole in Rebel squad building capability, offering a mid-high Pilot Skill ship, and bringing with it an Elite Pilot Talent. The points cost is balanced against similar skill X-wing pilots (Biggs, PS5 with a powerful ability (same cost); Garven, PS6 with an ability but no EPT slot (one point cheaper)). Points cost is also balanced against Imperial counterparts (Royal Guard Pilot with Push the Limit; 2x Academy Pilots (roughly)). Idea #2 comes with it some base assumptions. These assumptions are as follows: A) X-wings are currently non-competitive in the tournament meta for X-wing. Much of this reason is because X-wings cannot reposition after maneuvers. Along with Lambda Shuttles, Z-95s, and Y-Wings, they are alone in this trait. B) Current options available to X-wings in order to reposition after maneuvers are prohibitively expensive and overcosted.
That out of the way, Idea #2) T-65B X-wing. Title. 5 points. "Your action bar gains the [boost] and [barrel roll] icons. In order to equip this card you must have the [Elite Pilot Talent] upgrade icon." This is costed as it is for several reasons. One is so that it doesn't immediately undercut engine upgrade. Engine upgrade is still cheaper for getting just boost, and Expert Handling is still cheaper for getting just barrel roll. It's also one of the more expensive upgrade cards available, and the second most expensive title next to Outrider. At 5 points, one of the hypothetical Rogue Squadron Pilots above is a full 30 points in order to be able to boost or barrel roll, and is a full 8 points more expensive than a Royal Guard Pilot who can do the same in exchange for two shields, one less agility, and a worse dial. This points cost also allows a Rogue Squadron Pilot to mount this title and Push the Limit for an even 33 points. This permits up to three of this ship in one list, and matches up in terms of expected role and combat effectiveness to four Royal Guard TIEs with Push the Limit. The title is expensive enough, and with strict enough requirements for use that fitting four ships into a list is impossible. The absolute cheapest available X-wing that can use this card is 29 points (Red Squadron Pilot or Tarn Mison, R2-D6, Title) and a maximum of one X-wing cheaper than 30 points can be used in this way because R2-D6 is a unique astromech. Attempting to fit an R2 Astromech onto each fighter is impossible to help with the stress from Push the Limit without reducing the number of ships or only using one (in the process giving up the rather vital initiative bid). Even with an R2 Astromech, the Royal Guard TIE and principal counterpart has a vastly superior dial, including the significant white hard 1 maneuver, variable speed K-turns, and a greater straight line green movement potential. With Push the Limit and an R2 Astromech, the closest that an X-wing can ever hope to come to matching an Interceptor's maneuverability (and still failing, while being less agile on defense) is a full 9 points more expensive than the Royal Guard Pilot's 25 points. As an additional balance example, take Wedge, and give him the works just described. The total comes to 38 points for the title, PtL, and an R2 Astromech (Opportunity costs: Predator, any other Astromech). For comparison, take Soontir. At 27 points, PtL brings him up to 3. Royal Guard TIE title may be used to mount a Shield Upgrade and a Targeting Computer, for a grand total of 36 points. With an arguably superior pilot ability (Wedge's merely serves to match the offense/defense available to each ship in a one on one fight), Soontir has one less shield, every single action that the X-wing has in addition to an Evade action for superior defensive ability, and a superior dial in every phase, for two fewer points. Given that a shield upgrade is 4 points, two points difference to account for the evade action (Millenium Falcon title puts it at 1 point) and the extra dial options (hard 1, green 4 forward, white 5 forward, variable K-turn) matches up well. Thoughts?
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3 hours of Star Wars music: https://soundcloud.com/mel-miniatures/x-wing-battle-music
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I would love those X-Wing upgrades. The lack of Boost/Barrel Roll on Rebel ships is so annoying.
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So, according to the webpage, wave 1 and 4 reprints are shipping. Hooray, now I can get more xwings.
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Goddammit, these squad tokens from Team Covenant are making me want to spend like $60 on bits of plastic for a game I haven't even played in months.
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I only ever use the tokens I earn from tournaments. What surprises me, though I benefit from it, is how much people are willing to pay for official shield, stress, and focus tokens when there are many third party versions. Honestly, that's the main reason (in addition to not enjoying standard right now) I've been playing x-wing instead of magic the past several months. $5 entry and get some tokens and cards worth $50+? Or $5 entry and get maybe $15 store credit for magic?
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overdesigned posted:Goddammit, these squad tokens from Team Covenant are making me want to spend like $60 on bits of plastic for a game I haven't even played in months. If only I didn't have a zillion perfectly fine and usable tokens already I would throw money at these in a heartbeat.
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So I flew BBBBZ for the first time tonight and holy poo poo the list is strong. Completely wrecked a fat han list and a whisper decimator list. What bad matchups does this list even have?
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Oh my God Autothrusters are so good give them to me now.
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Partial Octopus posted:So I flew BBBBZ for the first time tonight and holy poo poo the list is strong. Completely wrecked a fat han list and a whisper decimator list. What bad matchups does this list even have? This list wrecked me at our local tournament and really turned me off the game. Do you run the B's with heavy laser cannons?
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Phrosphor posted:This list wrecked me at our local tournament and really turned me off the game. Do you run the B's with heavy laser cannons? I'm sure he doesn't since 4 naked blues is 88pts and a Bandit makes 100.
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pbpancho posted:I'm sure he doesn't since 4 naked blues is 88pts and a Bandit makes 100. I got confused with the guy I played after who had 4 Y-wings. He ran 2 B-wings with Heavy laser, a bandit with ion pulse and either Jake or Tycho naked. 4 B-wings with heavy laser would be pretty insane!
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CODChimera posted:Wouldn't Adv. Sensors be better than the Z95? http://teamcovenant.com/theorist/2015/02/08/battle-report-store-championship/
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Phrosphor posted:You could play the FFG rpg that is set with players being rebel agents and use the xwing rules for the space fights? Whoa this is such a good idea. Could either run it as an Edge of Empire RPG with all PCs being pilots and resolve combat as flight missions like the Wraith Squadron novels. Or I could have the players be station commanders in charge of deploying and allocating ships and whatnot. Hmm...
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I've been thinking about the tournament meta issue more recently, and I think the best thing they could do for the game would be to make the following simple change: -Partial credit is awarded for damaged ships at the end of the game. You gain points equal to (the ship's point cost * the amount of damage on it)/its total hull+shields for ships that are damaged but not destroyed. This would make two-ship lists less enticing and likely eliminate or at least nerf the various gamesmanship lists that are based on killing one ship and then stalling. I of course think the game would be EVEN BETTER with the additional change of: -Phantom is banned -YT-2400 is banned But that seems very unlikely, given that FFG doesn't want to tell people they can't play with ships they bought.
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Two ship lists are getting eaten by the 4b1z list, with no need for kneejerk banning stuff. Which in turn will lead to lists designed to best 4 and 5 ship rebels. Which will lead to two ship super lists. Welcome to a healthy metagame. Edit: it's definitely not a perfect system right now, but there really isn't a single list that just dominates all others anymore. Slab Squatthrust fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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The Gate posted:Two ship lists are getting eaten by the 4b1z list, with no need for kneejerk banning stuff. Which in turn will lead to lists designed to best 4 and 5 ship rebels. Which will lead to two ship super lists. Welcome to a healthy metagame. All of the phantom players I know eat 4B1Z lists for breakfast, which means no one plays them here. It's all two ships, all the time, except for a couple folks who dare to play one big ship and then two support ships.
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Strobe posted:All of the phantom players I know eat 4B1Z lists for breakfast, which means no one plays them here. It's all two ships, all the time, except for a couple folks who dare to play one big ship and then two support ships. Honestly, lots of any list is player skill. If the best players are all phantom players, they've got good odds at winning anyway. But the Decimator is screwed in that matchup, and even whisper has to take care or get blasted by a ton of dice.
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Is there a good x-wing podcast out there? I'm more interested in something that focuses on specific discussion topics each week rather than a "talk about the latest news and what we did last weekend" kind of gamer podcast.
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The best players in this area run lots of Decimator/Whisper, and an almost equal number of them run a Fat Han/Epic Dash plus Chewie squad. At least, the Tulsa tournament I went to ended up with something ridiculous like one non-two ship build breaking to top 8.
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