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Feb 10, 2015 17:11
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Rimusutera posted:Guys, obvious mcmagic bait is obvious. Don't you tell me how to live my life. 
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Feb 10, 2015 17:13
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TheKingofSprings posted:Yes, the card that comes out infinity turns into the game is more annoying than the Rhino or Roc. That wasn't the case before he was printed though. Count Bleck posted:Ugin isn't the thing that lost you the game, it's just the thing that's killing you. This would be true if there was a good UB Control finisher in the pre-Ugin standard. There wasn't. It's especially not true for decks that ramp into Ugin on T5 or 6.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:17
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TheKingofSprings posted:Yes, the card that comes out infinity turns into the game is more annoying than the Rhino or Roc. This is the point when an opponent should concede to the control player but won't and say it was the control player's fault when the game took too long with the 3 damage pings. Especially against Abzan.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:18
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Cernunnos posted:In fact they already do. I actually have both of them but I never really looked at the materials inside.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:24
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mcmagic posted:That wasn't the case before he was printed though. It turns out formats change when new cards get printed, I guess???
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Feb 10, 2015 17:26
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Elyv posted:It turns out formats change when new cards get printed, I guess??? The funniest part is when he gets mad after you call him out on his nonsense. They should give mcmagic a special pro tour invite but mic him up. It'd be the best event.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:29
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jassi007 posted:The funniest part is when he gets mad after you call him out on his nonsense. They should give mcmagic a special pro tour invite but mic him up. It'd be the best event. He declines invites to tournaments in his honor though
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Feb 10, 2015 17:29
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Elyv posted:It turns out formats change when new cards get printed, I guess??? Right. A new card that made an annoying deck to play against much better. Just like I said. jassi007 posted:The funniest part is when he gets mad after you call him out on his nonsense. They should give mcmagic a special pro tour invite but mic him up. It'd be the best event. It seems like you're much more mad than I am since you take the time out of your day to post an assholeish, poo poo post response to literally every post I make.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:36
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mcmagic posted:Right. A new card that made an annoying deck to play against much better. Just like I said. Literally half the thread must be furious then
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Feb 10, 2015 17:44
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We're all mad - we pay hundreds of dollars for cardboard to play with our need friends. We need to be committed for our own safety. Seriously though please don't play the "who's more mad" game. You both have terrible opinions.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:46
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To jassi's defense he plays good decks in modern and recognizes that arcbound ravager is a good card. Can we get the mcmagic review on arcbound ravager's viability as a card?
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Feb 10, 2015 17:47
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ITT: angry_birds_wingmate_roc_token.jpg (According to Google this doesn't actually exist, it should.  )
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Feb 10, 2015 17:49
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Rimusutera posted:ITT: angry_birds_wingmate_roc_token.jpg Only if you have the appropriate lovely alter for the actual Roc. On the subject of alters, does anybody know where one could acquire a good quality commission? I really want to get Norin the Wary without Norin in the actual art.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:54
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Does that exist? I couldn't find it either but could have sworn I've seen it before.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:55
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Chill la Chill posted:This is the point when an opponent should concede to the control player but won't and say it was the control player's fault when the game took too long with the 3 damage pings. Especially against Abzan. Current control is so light on finishers and Ugin is killed by the most popular removal spell in the format that the game could still easily go either direction. If you can't kill Ugin the following turn and they get to have counter mana open, then yeah, probably, but landing Ugin is not an automatic game ender.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:07
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We're back to the smug circle jerk session where we pile-on mcmagic yet again? 
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Feb 10, 2015 19:20
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Angry Grimace posted:We're back to the smug circle jerk session where we pile-on mcmagic yet again? It'll be your turn in a month, be patient mr. mephistopheles posted:Current control is so light on finishers and Ugin is killed by the most popular removal spell in the format that the game could still easily go either direction. If you can't kill Ugin the following turn and they get to have counter mana open, then yeah, probably, but landing Ugin is not an automatic game ender. PLA is still an inevitable thing, and you are probably not going to have a hand when Ugin drops.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:22
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Angry Grimace posted:We're back to the smug circle jerk session where we pile-on mcmagic yet again? He hasn't stopped posting (bad posts) so TheKingofSprings posted:
How was PLA not a control finisher? It's no aetherling but it's a fatty that self protects and that is classic control finisher material. As an added bonus it has flash. I mean like, Ugin owns but it's not like U/B wasn't able to finish games before. Zoness fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Feb 10, 2015 |
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Feb 10, 2015 19:23
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Angry Grimace posted:We're back to the smug circle jerk session where we pile-on mcmagic yet again? 
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Feb 10, 2015 19:24
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Mcmagic is a troll, Angry Grimace has wrong opinions, Zoness is a pedant and I'm the worst person ever because I play UW control in every format I can with lands in front facing my opponent.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:24
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Would an enchantment that gives your creature cards e: in Standard, specifically; it'd be busted as gently caress in eternal formats. redstormpopcorn fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Feb 10, 2015 |
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Feb 10, 2015 19:25
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redstormpopcorn posted:Would an enchantment that gives your creature cards Raid for their mana cost be cool or maybe too good? I think it could maybe work if the cost is unsplashable, like 1RRR or something. uhhh, Raid what? Raid just means if you have attacked this turn do 'X'. What would 'X' be in this example? Do you mean Dash?
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Feb 10, 2015 19:26
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I just moved to the Manassas VA area, are there any game stores I should prefer or avoid?
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Feb 10, 2015 19:28
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Madmarker posted:uhhh, Raid what? Raid just means if you have attacked this turn do 'X'. What would 'X' be in this example?  I'm thinking of Dash, jesus christ I need more coffee.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:28
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redstormpopcorn posted:
If it's dash there's an enchantment that gives any creature dash (except it dies instead of bounces) for 3R and R for eternal formats so I don't think it would be playable. For standard it seems interesting at least, you're still paying the cost of the creature, it would make goblin shortcutters really strong but I think such an effect could be fairly costed. Zoness fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Feb 10, 2015 |
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Feb 10, 2015 19:28
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Zoness posted:He hasn't stopped posting (bad posts) so Where did I say it was bad or not a control finisher? It's an inevitable card.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:31
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redstormpopcorn posted:
Ah well, in that case, it wouldn't be busted at all. Hell you could probably print it at 1R or as Zones said R and it would be fine. Though I would love a Snapcaster Mage with Dash.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:31
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If you can deal with Ugin when he lands, then sure the game can swing still. Of course the same was true of Pearl Lake, it however has the built in ability to dodge Hero's Downfall. This is why mcmagic's opinion is bad. Can we stop arguing about it now?
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Feb 10, 2015 19:33
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redstormpopcorn posted:e: in Standard, specifically; it'd be busted as gently caress in eternal formats. I dash Emrakul for 15
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Feb 10, 2015 19:33
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TheKingofSprings posted:Where did I say it was bad or not a control finisher? It's an inevitable card. I wasn't disagreeing with you though - it was a follow up the point that at that mana cost the control deck has winning options and it's not necessarily ugin that needs to do the winning.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:33
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Rimusutera posted:If you can deal with Ugin when he lands, then sure the game can swing still. Of course the same was true of Pearl Lake, it however has the built in ability to dodge Hero's Downfall. LOL @ someone comparing the power levels of Pearl Lake and Ugin calling MY opinion bad.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:34
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Madmarker posted:Ah well, in that case, it wouldn't be busted at all. Hell you could probably print it at 1R or as Zones said R and it would be fine. I'm probably overvaluing pain-in-the-rear end ETB effects beyond Standard.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:35
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mcmagic posted:LOL @ someone comparing the power levels of Pearl Lake and Ugin calling MY opinion bad. Yeah those loser nerds comparing the power level of Elspeth and Aetherling, such plebeians 
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Feb 10, 2015 19:36
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redstormpopcorn posted:I'm probably overvaluing pain-in-the-rear end ETB effects beyond Standard. It's just that in legacy sneak attack already exists. If you pay full cost for a creature most of the time you'd rather that creature stay in play, although it depends whether or not a creature is more of a creature with a spell attached (siege rhino) or a spell with a creature attached (goblin shortcutter kinda, snapcaster mage). Dash is generally more valuable on the latter.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:38
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mcmagic posted:LOL @ someone comparing the power levels of Pearl Lake and Ugin calling MY opinion bad. I mean, if all you have is a LOL rather than an actual response...
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Feb 10, 2015 19:40
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redstormpopcorn posted:I'm probably overvaluing pain-in-the-rear end ETB effects beyond Standard. Not quite. You are undervaluing how much of a loss a card is when it doesn't necessarily do anything. That card really doesn't do anything super-special. It doesn't impact the board the turn it is played and does not act as a threat on its own. It is only as good as the card you are dashing, and that can be really good, but every time you dash you are neglecting your own board position. Now, there are cards that it would be silly with, namely Thragtusk, but what of all the times its in your deck without the good dash creature. Or all the times the creature gets countered, or where they have a large blocker on the field so you lose out on the benefit of haste? Now it would most assuredly be busted if it was something like Anger, where it had its effect while in the graveyard, but thats another matter entirely.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:41
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TheKingofSprings posted:PLA is still an inevitable thing, and you are probably not going to have a hand when Ugin drops. Okay, in the perfect scenario where they've drawn and played and managed to keep their PLA on the board and they follow it up with an Ugin and you are topdecking, yes, that is game. There are just about a million scenarios where that's not going to be the case. The only deck that should be making GBS threads its entire hand against a deck that might feasibly be playing Ugin (and probably other board wipes too) is all-in red aggro that has to win by turn 4 or 5 at the latest anyway. The most popular deck in the format is a midrange deck that plays Hero's Downfall.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:44
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TheKingofSprings posted:Yeah those loser nerds comparing the power level of Elspeth and Aetherling, such plebeians PLA isn't CLOSE to either Elspeth or Aetherling as a finisher. Also there was no UB Control deck (the deck I was talking about) in the same standard as Aetherling and it can't cast Elspeth.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:52
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redstormpopcorn posted:Would an enchantment that gives your creature cards
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