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Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business

The Southern Dandy posted:

Whatever happened to MacDiesel? :downsgun:

gently caress that guy.

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Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Mesadoram posted:

gently caress that guy.

"Don't worry, we're absolutely good enough to take on -G- as long as we don't get dogpiled by their subclans!"

Gosh CRABS's implosion was hilarious.

Tahirovic
Feb 25, 2009
Fun Shoe

Atal Vataman posted:

Thats the thing! I expected it to be a tier 3 heavy, but its not at all. the armour is shockingly thin actually, at 14/8/8 everything pens you at any angle essentially. however, it goes 40+ easily, turns really well and has a bullshit howitzer. the gun has essentially the same pen with AP and HE 43 vs 38 and ridiculous 90 pen HEAT round. Of course, the shells probably has some of the absolute lowest shell velocities in the game, but who cares. its t3, pubbies are awful and the grosstraktor stomps reds like no other. it essentially oneshots everything on its tier, and has hitpoints like a t4 vehicle. it sees 5s however, but you can still dish out damage against them if you stay a bit back. also it looks wonky as hell (this is a good thing) and has a weird butt-turret (this is also good).

I really love lobbing HE shells in my Grosstraktor, you can watch those slow shells reach their target and then explode, it feels so great.

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business

Hellsau posted:

"Don't worry, we're absolutely good enough to take on -G- as long as we don't get dogpiled by their subclans!"

Gosh CRABS's implosion was hilarious.

If it was not for Macdiesel diplomacy, the "goon purge of crabs" and Primelaw being awesome I would not be in OTTER.

So I guess I should thank him?

Edit: Speaking of old times, anyone know if Casca and Anderson are still alive?

Mesadoram fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Feb 10, 2015

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

I don't have a light tank line, which should i chose to make my team lose by going for missions?

The Southern Dandy
Jun 15, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT MY RADLEY-WALTERS' MEDAL

Is that medal for being the most intolerable poster in a thread about Warhammer 40.000 novels? Because if it is, you sure blew the competition out of the water, son.

Mesadoram posted:

gently caress that guy.

I used to platoon with GeneralLeeDisasociative (CLAWS battle caller and all-around nice guy) and some other guy in the mornings back when MacDiesel first joined G. General couldn't stand him, and I didn't care for him too much but he didn't ruffle my feathers.

Anyway, we met up with him four games in a row on the enemy team. Every single time we singled him out and killed him first thing, usually before anybody else did any damage. He finally got the gist and logged out.

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business

The Southern Dandy posted:

I used to platoon with GeneralLeeDisasociative (CLAWS battle caller and all-around nice guy) and some other guy in the mornings back when MacDiesel first joined G. General couldn't stand him, and I didn't care for him too much but he didn't ruffle my feathers.

Anyway, we met up with him four games in a row on the enemy team. Every single time we singled him out and killed him first thing, usually before anybody else did any damage. He finally got the gist and logged out.

General Lee is a nice guy. I've talked to him on several occasions to get some friends into Claws. While claws might not be superultimatetopunicum360yourmomsscope tier, under General they are a functional clan that does pretty well.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Loving Africa Chaps posted:

I don't have a light tank line, which should i chose to make my team lose by going for missions?

Chinese and American light lines all have positives and negatives but work well for missions.

Germany and France have really good tier 8s, but you have to suffer through some less than stellar tier 6 and 7 tanks to get there.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Mesadoram posted:

General Lee is a nice guy. I've talked to him on several occasions to get some friends into Claws. While claws might not be superultimatetopunicum360yourmomsscope tier, under General they are a functional clan that does pretty well.

CLAWS always seemed far more competent than CRABS.

Also NA players don't bother buying the Type 62. It is alright but definitely not worth $50. I do appreciate how they nerfed the Type 62's gold ammo but god forbid the slightly increase the E-25's profile. Just get the Type 64 and actually have fun in your light tank.

Hellsau fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Feb 10, 2015

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business

quote:

- Chieftain Mk.2 (replacement of FV215b) will be “cool”

Pro reporting by you know who :jerkbag:.

Hellsau posted:

Also NA players don't bother buying the Type 62. It is alright but definitely not worth $50. I do appreciate how they nerfed the Type 62's gold ammo but god forbid the slightly increase the E-25's profile. Just get the Type 64 and actually have fun in your light tank.

Bingo.

Mesadoram fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Feb 10, 2015

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

9.6 drops on EU tomorrow. Mods on NA pre-breaking in anticipation.

Rothmog
Jul 26, 2011

NTRabbit posted:

Chinese and American light lines all have positives and negatives but work well for missions.

Germany and France have really good tier 8s, but you have to suffer through some less than stellar tier 6 and 7 tanks to get there.


Haven't played up the new Americans yet. I am on the 1375 and it is a pain. The WZ-131 is really fun, get the Type 64 if you just want to do missions and not worry about advancing down a line. The RU 251 is really fun, the VK 2801 and "Awful" Panther are actually pretty good. You just have to understand the limits of the tanks. I carried a 56% WR for the 2801 and 59.5% WR for the "Awful" Panther.

If I was going to suggest just one, I would say go Chinese unless you will have most the modules unlocked for the Germans.

Rothmog
Jul 26, 2011

Hellsau posted:

Also NA players don't bother buying the Type 62. It is alright but definitely not worth $50.

What? Is it available again? I am a tank whore. Gotta catch them all!

WayAbvPar
Mar 11, 2009

Ah- Smug Mode.

Which is the one they gave away as a reward for the hideous grindy mission a few months back? I have that one (I want to say it is the 62) and it is serviceable.

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business
It's not that the Type 62 is bad, it is just not worth $50. Like, in the least bit.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Rothmog posted:

Haven't played up the new Americans yet. I am on the 1375 and it is a pain. The WZ-131 is really fun, get the Type 64 if you just want to do missions and not worry about advancing down a line. The RU 251 is really fun, the VK 2801 and "Awful" Panther are actually pretty good. You just have to understand the limits of the tanks. I carried a 56% WR for the 2801 and 59.5% WR for the "Awful" Panther.

If I was going to suggest just one, I would say go Chinese unless you will have most the modules unlocked for the Germans.

I enjoy driving the Awfulpanther, I managed to complete the Ghost mission on it after repeatedly lucking out with my 131 and Bulldog, but most people don't like it.

Otherwise I've done every light mission in the 131/132 or Bulldog.

The Bulldog is pretty good, but it does have some weaknesses, notably the height, average turning circle and acceleration, and brittle ammo rack.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Huh, the stock engine on the Grant gives more horsepower per tonne than the top one. That's good to know.

DonkeyHotay
Jun 6, 2005

NTRabbit posted:

Chinese and American light lines all have positives and negatives but work well for missions.

Germany and France have really good tier 8s, but you have to suffer through some less than stellar tier 6 and 7 tanks to get there.

IIRC the 13/75 has the highest camo rating in the game(?) so spotting missions ahoy.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

That distinction goes to UE 57 (stationary), the ELC (moving) or the E25 (firing). If this site is correct anyway.

warcrimes
Jul 6, 2013

I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life. :parrot: :parrot: :parrot: :parrot:

Prav posted:

Nah, they're just shamelessly copying stuff. Hopefully the end result is better, but I don't really trust Obsidian to get the actual game part right.

Generation Internet posted:

I'm honestly kind of surprised that they're copying everything down to the unit icons for the various classes, that's pretty ballsy. I am curious if Obsidian can pull off a tank game, since exactly nobody knows them for their superior game-play experiences. Maybe the crew members will have really compelling backstories.

Obsidian has a pretty good rep and Fallout: Las Vegas and Stick of Truth are loving awesome. Pillars of Eternity looks promising, too.

Also, all the WoT UI clone stuff will change, they're placeholders.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




DonkeyHotay posted:

IIRC the 13/75 has the highest camo rating in the game(?) so spotting missions ahoy.

Actually the spotting missions are probably easier in lower tier lights, trying to get spotting in a light in matches full of tier 10 mediums is just about a waste of time.

mmkay
Oct 21, 2010

NTRabbit posted:

Actually the spotting missions are probably easier in lower tier lights, trying to get spotting in a light in matches full of tier 10 mediums is just about a waste of time.

I don't think I'd want to try spotting 4k+ damage in lower tier lights.

Unrelated question, anyone knows what barbie game this sporting young fellow is recommending?

I'd like to give it a go.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




mmkay posted:

I don't think I'd want to try spotting 4k+ damage in lower tier lights.

Tier 9 battles are the highest you want to go, unless you are a light specialist with a fully tricked out for view range tier 7/8 light tank and 3 or 4 skill crew with 6th/camo/view range you will lose all your spotting to equally ticked out and likely to be more crew skilled by weight of games played to get there tier 10 mediums - or the same on the other team will spot and shred you far faster than the pubs can actually pen for 4k damage back. Tier 9 you have a chance, and all those tier 10 gunned TDs, mediums and heavies are shooting at a whole lot less effective armour.

Creamed Cormp
Jan 8, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Ask me about having to spot 6 tanks without getting spotted at any time ever, minimum tier 6.

F
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Soulfucker
Feb 15, 2012

i,m going to kill myself on friday #wow #whoa
Fun Shoe

WitchFetish posted:

Ask me about having to spot 6 tanks without getting spotted at any time ever, minimum tier 6.

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Couldn't you passive scout some location with the T49 and then explode yourself? Worked for me in my arty :v:

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Have a friend ready in a sky helper once you get six.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

WitchFetish posted:

Ask me about having to spot 6 tanks without getting spotted at any time ever, minimum tier 6.

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Sit in the swamp on Malinovka, watch 6 people leave the south spawn, drown self.

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

WayAbvPar posted:

Which is the one they gave away as a reward for the hideous grindy mission a few months back? I have that one (I want to say it is the 62) and it is serviceable.

I got that one too. I thought it kind of sucked.

Its AP penetration sucks. It's slower with lower DPS than the T71 or M41. It's got slightly more armor than those tanks so I guess you might bounce shots from a tier 3 or something?

It doesn't get a preferential matchmaker and it's not good at making money since you need gold to pen anything, so what's the point?

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Ensign Expendable posted:

Sit in the swamp on Malinovka, watch 6 people leave the south spawn, drown self.

Make sure it looks like an accident or you can get reported and banned. This is one of the few things Wargaming will actually ban you for.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

quote:

- the Mines map upper base advantage was fixed in 9.6
- according to Storm, the statement that 2/3 of all maps in the game consist of corridors is not true
- various cases of getting stuck on landscape elements should be fixed by new motion physics

1 - I don't know how they 'fixed' Mines considering North spawn had four different advantages that allow them to hold the center of the map and several advantages in west. I assume they didn't try.
2 - Every map is a corridor map, just in different degrees.
3 - Hooray, maybe now I can play Sand River without getting stuck in a loving pit or on flat goddamn ground somehow. Pretty sure I'll have the highest ratio of games where I get tipped onto my roof though.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

quote:

The Russian tanks have heavily influenced the tank and anti-tank technology of other countries ever since the late summer of 1941, when the Russians surprised the Germans with the T-34 tank. For a long time - since 1944 - our best reference manuals on armored fighting vehicle technology have been Russian works.

From a formerly secret instruction to the Swedish army attache in Moscow, dated September 3rd, 1962, instructing him on what he should be gathering intelligence about. Source (in Swedish): https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8bCDRcq9BVeOWV0SlBkX3lZb1E/edit?usp=drive_web

RUSSIAN BIAS!

Burt
Sep 23, 2007

Poke.



I have been going bat poo poo insane today trying to get my MT "kill 2 mediums" mission and LT "spot an SPG". Every game I take the MT out there are no more than 1 medium on the other team and when I take the LT out, you guessed it, no arty.

I did get HT15, combined damage and bounces of over 10k in an IS-7. :smug:

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

TheFluff posted:

From a formerly secret instruction to the Swedish army attache in Moscow, dated September 3rd, 1962, instructing him on what he should be gathering intelligence about. Source (in Swedish): https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8bCDRcq9BVeOWV0SlBkX3lZb1E/edit?usp=drive_web

RUSSIAN BIAS!

Neat. Can I get a translation of the whole page for my blog?

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

Ensign Expendable posted:

Neat. Can I get a translation of the whole page for my blog?

Armored fighting vehicle development in the Soviet Union
Briefing for the army attache in Moscow, 1962-09-03, 13:00-13:50.
(Handwritten: head of the vehicle department, head of the intelligence section [both of the army ordnance administration] and Sundin [engineer at the intelligence section at the time])

1. The Russians started committing a great deal of resources to the AFV sector as early as in the 1920's. It is a very telling fact that during the 1931-1939 period, when other great powers held trials with maybe 5-10 different tank types and took 3-4 types to series production, the Russians trialed 32 different tank designs, both foreign and domestic, and took 10 different types to significant series production runs. The Russian tanks have heavily influenced the tank and anti-tank technology of other countries ever since the late summer of 1941, when the Russians surprised the Germans with the T34 tank. For a long time - since 1944 - our best reference manuals on armored fighting vehicle technology have been Russian works.

2. Our current knowledge regarding Russian AFV's is documented on a number of datasheets, which are kept at the army attache office. The general characteristics of these vehicles will be shown on the following slides:

T-34-85
IS III
(both 1945)

T54
T10
PT76
ASU57
(four different chassis types)

APC (8 wheels)

SU100 - T54 chassis
ZSU57-2 - T54 chassis
ISU152 - T10 (IS III) chassis
"SU400" - T10 (IS III) chassis
BTR50 - PT76 chassis
"SU85/62" - PT76 chassis
Rocket launcher vehicle - PT76 chassis
Artillery tractor - ASU57 chassis

3. Regarding new AFV's, the following intelligence is of primary interest:
1) Photos or drawings
2) Designation
3) Type of armament and armament characteristics (gun bore, guided missiles, any electronics, turret or fixed casemate)
4) Weight (chassis class, number of road wheels)
5) Amphibious capability or lack of such capability
6) Presence of external armor screens or such things (on heavier tanks and other well armored vehicles)
7) Night fighting equipment


(Handwritten note next to point 3)
Card with this text provided to the army attache. The attache said he would request that a tank expert be sent over to be present at parades and other such events in the future.


---

Feel free to use the image of the original page if you want to, the document itself should be in the public domain and I'm pretty sure I couldn't claim copyright on the photo of it even if I wanted to (and I don't).

Edit: Some of the slides they showed at point 2 should be in this folder somewhere, but I don't have time to translate all those datasheets. It should be fairly intelligible anyway though because it's mostly numbers and units. There were a lot more of those datasheets in that box but I didn't photograph all of them, just the Swedish ones (which are here). Note that each sheet is dated in the top right corner.

TheFluff fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Feb 11, 2015

WayAbvPar
Mar 11, 2009

Ah- Smug Mode.

Burt posted:

I have been going bat poo poo insane today trying to get my MT "kill 2 mediums" mission and LT "spot an SPG". Every game I take the MT out there are no more than 1 medium on the other team and when I take the LT out, you guessed it, no arty.

I did get HT15, combined damage and bounces of over 10k in an IS-7. :smug:

I have completed the first part of HT-15 at least 3 times now, but I want the extra commendation. Unfortunately this means I am dependent on shitlord pubbies to somehow win a game. I think I will give up until I save up for the E-100. Have done it twice in an E-75 and once in a T57, but I think it would be relatively easy in a 100.

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Burt posted:

I have been going bat poo poo insane today trying to get my MT "kill 2 mediums" mission and LT "spot an SPG". Every game I take the MT out there are no more than 1 medium on the other team and when I take the LT out, you guessed it, no arty.


I just did this today. I was stuck on it long enough to forget about it and then it was a nice surprise after a 3 kill game.

Kenlon
Jun 27, 2003

Digitus Impudicus

Magni posted:

On top of what Hellsau said, get a KV-2. Because potentially fighting Tier 5s with a 152mm howitzer is all kinds of hilarious.

Already have one. It's what pushed me into finally getting the SU-152. :v:

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.

DonkeyHotay posted:

IIRC the 13/75 has the highest camo rating in the game(?) so spotting missions ahoy.

Last time I checked this honor belonged to the UE 57.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

TheFluff posted:

Armored fighting vehicle development in the Soviet Union

Awesome, thanks a lot.

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CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

Burt posted:

I have been going bat poo poo insane today trying to get my MT "kill 2 mediums" mission and LT "spot an SPG". Every game I take the MT out there are no more than 1 medium on the other team and when I take the LT out, you guessed it, no arty.

I did get HT15, combined damage and bounces of over 10k in an IS-7. :smug:

I finally got my MT15 mission to kill 2 TDs after way too much effort, and some idiot teammates threw the game. I had so many games where the enemy team would be 1-2 TDs, or I'd be in a Easy 8 and the only TDs were tier 8's.

Saw this in the CoH2 thread. This would be a great premium, the Tiger-34!

CitizenKain fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Feb 11, 2015

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