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WastedJoker posted:Titanfall was a great game let down by the worst matchmaking system the world has ever seen. It was basic even for consolers. The game has been out for all of 16 hours, none of it in US prime time. I imagine that the matchmaking pool is not very deep yet, give it a day or two.
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That's the second time it's given me Kraken without any menu, presumably I'm being put on top of a bot. But I haven't unlocked Kraken yet so I get no mastery for it 
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Feb 10, 2015 22:39
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Zaphod42 posted:As all classes - Press TAB a whole lot so you can see the map. Its really really loving useful for hunting the monster or sneaking as the monster. Hey I didn't get a chance to respond in the old thread but thanks for this~
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Feb 10, 2015 22:42
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Carecat posted:That's the second time it's given me Kraken without any menu, presumably I'm being put on top of a bot. But I haven't unlocked Kraken yet so I get no mastery for it I have been wondering about when you join in on an empty spot. I know when you join in on a character which started as a bot you get kinda boned because you don't get a perk but when you join on a dropped player slot you get whatever perk they picked even if you didn't unlock it (I think?). But do you use their masteries or your own? I assume you use your own but I have not seen it stated either way anywhere.
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Feb 10, 2015 22:44
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Wow, this thread is getting hit with a lot of thread making GBS threads. I personally am really excited to play this tonight. I quite want to check out the non-hunt game modes.
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Feb 10, 2015 22:46
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im pretty sure that complaining about threadshitting is more threadshitting than we've been doing
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Feb 10, 2015 22:58
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Titanfall owned and was a lot of fun despite its issues (lack of unlocks to grind for, balance issues, dumb matchmaking, pc population) and I had two months worth of fun with it before never playing it again v vanyway evolve looks really bad and boring just from the videos and does not seem to be worth any amount of money
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Feb 10, 2015 23:05
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A good kraken seems unbeatable.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:06
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Eonwe posted:im pretty sure that complaining about threadshitting is more threadshitting than we've been doing I liked your old av more  Wee Tinkle Wand posted:I have been wondering about when you join in on an empty spot. I know when you join in on a character which started as a bot you get kinda boned because you don't get a perk but when you join on a dropped player slot you get whatever perk they picked even if you didn't unlock it (I think?). But do you use their masteries or your own? I assume you use your own but I have not seen it stated either way anywhere. It looks like not only do miss out on a perk you miss out on the three starting skill points as well 
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Feb 10, 2015 23:07
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i did too, but I can't buy it back till people stop buying me avs for a while this is like my 5th in the last few weeks
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Feb 10, 2015 23:08
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Why are people acting like this is the second coming of horse armor? It seems like a fairly standard DLC plan for a modern game.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:11
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TASTE THE PAIN!! posted:Why are people acting like this is the second coming of horse armor? It seems like a fairly standard DLC plan for a modern game. Every major game has a season pass now so I don't really get it either. Fight the power I guess!!!
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Feb 10, 2015 23:19
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TASTE THE PAIN!! posted:Why are people acting like this is the second coming of horse armor? It seems like a fairly standard DLC plan for a modern game. Yeah. I mean, it's likely that my opinion is colored from being a game dev myself (and one that worked on a F2P game), but this pricing model seems entirely reasonable to me given the cost of the assets. A champion in League of Legends costs about ~$8 if you bought them straight out with cash, so $12-15 for a monster with a ton more animation and particle assets + higher quality models and texturing seems reasonable by comparison. Similarly, a new map for Payday 2 costs about $8 on release (with some extras thrown in like masks and such as well), and a monster is a much more difficult thing to create than a map...
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Brackhar posted:Yeah. I mean, it's likely that my opinion is colored from being a game dev myself (and one that worked on a F2P game), but this pricing model seems entirely reasonable to me given the cost of the assets. A champion in League of Legends costs about ~$8 if you bought them straight out with cash, so $12-15 for a monster with a ton more animation and particle assets + higher quality models and texturing seems reasonable by comparison. The pricing model is completely ridiculous and any game dev who thinks that 100 dollars for a complete game is reasonable is part of the problem and should probably invest in some helium and a CPAP machine.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:26
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It's a bit stupider than most games and overpriced but I'm just going to wait for a sale.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:28
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Carecat posted:It's a bit stupider than most games and overpriced but I'm just going to wait for a sale. Yeah. I just hope it ends up not dying before that happens. Hopefully they'll drop the price pretty quickly so everyone can have some fun.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:29
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hosed up that a video game has DLC
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Feb 10, 2015 23:29
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VarXX posted:hosed up that a video game has DLC
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Feb 10, 2015 23:30
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Carecat posted:It's a bit stupider than most games and overpriced but I'm just going to wait for a sale. I was thinking of waiting for a sale but by the time it gets to a decent price it'll probably be a dead game played only by tryhards and weekend long sale crowds. So I guess I just won't buy it at all.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:31
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Eye of Widesauron posted:The pricing model is completely ridiculous and any game dev who thinks that 100 dollars for a complete game is reasonable is part of the problem and should probably invest in some helium and a CPAP machine. Can you define complete game? The $100 price point you're bandying around is basically a $60 purchase + a $40 pre-order for some major DLC and a bunch of cosmetic stuff that won't be fully out for months. Is your argument that the base game as it exists isn't worth $60 or isn't a complete experience?
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Feb 10, 2015 23:31
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Black Baby Goku posted:Grab it when it's free to play This is the truth.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:33
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Brackhar posted:Can you define complete game? The $100 price point you're bandying around is basically a $60 purchase + a $40 pre-order for some major DLC and a bunch of cosmetic stuff that won't be fully out for months. It's not worth 60 dollars whatsoever in its current state and doesn't reflect a reasonable cost of a lovely console port whatsoever. They're shooting themselves in the foot big time by basically setting up a situation where the game, which depends on multiplayer, will have a userbase that shrinks big time very quickly. It sucks because it has promise and I wish it weren't that way but hey.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:34
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Sacriel on twitch is playing with a developer and they just encountered a level 20 monster and got wrecked twice in a row. Spectating in this game is pretty legit, so highly recommended to go check out the game if dropping the bucks isn't an option for you right now.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:34
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The game is really fun. If you're afraid of it just being a game of ring around the Rosie as the hunters chase the monster and never see it try evacuation. The game modes in that are awesome and can get really intense, especially the hatch mode when you get attacked by both a minion and the real monster at the same time.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:37
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It just doesn't seem like you're getting a lot for your 60 bucks. Only 3 monsters with future DLC monsters costing 15 bucks?? It's a joke imo. Compare that to other multiplayer only games like dota (every single hero is available for free, any future heroes will be available for free, + the base game is FREE) and Evolve just looks like a money grubbing scam in comparison.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:41
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cant wait to evolve into a new career so i can afford to play this game 
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Feb 10, 2015 23:42
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Nobody's twisting your arm to buy DLC though. If they didn't announce any extra content beforehand, people who are actually playing the game would just pester them about it until they did. And if this were the complete game as it stands today, they'd be accused of abandoning it. I very rarely buy DLC on similar principle, but you guys are being loving babies about this one. At least it's a unique concept, and from what I saw in a stream earlier the gameplay is solid apart from the again standard day 1 bugs.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:44
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No one ever talks about how Evolve is getting free map packs and game modes, or how you can play as the DLC characters without owning the DLC if you join a friend and switch with them either
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^^^ Yeah, that's a model that Payday 2 used that I was a big fan of. I'm glad they adopted it here. Eye of Widesauron posted:It's not worth 60 dollars whatsoever in its current state and doesn't reflect a reasonable cost of a lovely console port whatsoever. They're shooting themselves in the foot big time by basically setting up a situation where the game, which depends on multiplayer, will have a userbase that shrinks big time very quickly. Ok, so help me out with this. Let's take Left 4 Dead as an example. At launch, as far as I can find Left 4 Dead was $50 on PC and $60 on console. It had 20 maps, 5 of which were playable in VS at launch, and 8 playable characters (4 that were basically the same save for model and rig - the survivors, and then the 4 zombies), and two game modes. Evolve at launch has 13(?) maps, 15 unique playable characters, 6 game modes, and a much higher level of visual quality. The two products seem pretty equatable at that level. Is the issue that Evolve doesn't have a loose story to it like the campaigns in left 4 dead? Or is it that you don't think the game is that fun so it's not worth the price? Or is the comparison just wrong 'cause Left 4 Dead wasn't worth that much at launch either? I'm honestly trying to understand here, since I've not yet had the opportunity to play the full release yet. Is the game in a much worse state than it was in the last beta?
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Feb 10, 2015 23:46
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it is insanely hosed up that this videogame is promoting class warfare so blatantly
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Brackhar posted:Is the game in a much worse state than it was in the last beta? Its actually a lot better than beta I can actually run with most settings maxed out now. Can't do high textures though because 660 Ti only has 1.5GB of fast vram, and I actually got into a game almost instantly with just 2 people instead of being stuck on matchmaking for an hour. My stuttering also vanished.
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Brackhar posted:Ok, so help me out with this. Let's take Left 4 Dead as an example. http://evolvegame.com/news/the-evolve-digital-versions-breakdown Look at this with a straight face and tell us how you're not getting hosed in the rear end. This game will not have anywhere near the population that Left 4 Dead 2 still does even 3 months in.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:49
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I'm glad they're doing a good job at price discrimination to maximize their revenue if it means that they'll never release pay-for map packs and the like that actually fracture the userbase.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:52
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AIDS here get your AIDS here pay up front, it'll be free later
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Brackhar posted:Can you define complete game? The $100 price point you're bandying around is basically a $60 purchase + a $40 pre-order for some major DLC and a bunch of cosmetic stuff that won't be fully out for months. The argument that it's not a $100 game because consumers should constantly be paying you for stuff is dogshit. Competitive games should be launched in a finished state, period. You shouldn't have to go "well I hope they don't gently caress this game up with a bunch of retarded DLC that makes it unfun for me." I would rather have a game come out and never get new content than have DLC. As long as games are based on gimmicks and gamers keep buying into it this trend of garbage multiplayer games is going to continue.
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If you don't want to drop the money right now to take a pozzed load you can go to twitch and watch someone else take one
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Brackhar posted:Ok, so help me out with this. Let's take Left 4 Dead as an example. Tallying up maps, modes, and characters is an idiotic way of assessing value. By your method League of Legends must be worth an upfront payment of $300 because it has (I'm not joking) 123 playable characters (along with multiple maps and game modes).
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Eye of Widesauron posted:http://evolvegame.com/news/the-evolve-digital-versions-breakdown I'm still not following. Yeah, they have pre-orders up for DLC to come later. But you're arguing that the game in its current release state is not worth $60. Can you explain why that's the case without referencing anything but what is in the game today? Do the new game modes really suck, is there not enough variety in the experience, what?
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Feb 10, 2015 23:55
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$60 multiplayer only games generally turn out well so i wouldnt worry too much about it
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Brackhar posted:I'm still not following. Yeah, they have pre-orders up for DLC to come later. But you're arguing that the game in its current release state is not worth $60. Can you explain why that's the case without referencing anything but what is in the game today? Do the new game modes really suck, is there not enough variety in the experience, what? Well, the game has several broken parts but people are just going to hand wave that as "day 1 glitches" so even though that should be something to consider I won't go into that. Chomp8645 posted:Tallying up maps, modes, and characters is an idiotic way of assessing value. By your method League of Legends must be worth an upfront payment of $300 because it has (I'm not joking) 123 playable characters (along with multiple maps and game modes). This guy makes a good point though. It's going to be dead very soon just like the last few overhyped experiences and it's going to be really funny watching people defend it. I wish it weren't the case, I really do since I can see how it could be fun but they really blew it on the price point especially for PC since it's just a crappy port. There is no way that this is worth 60 dollars especially on the PC.
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