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ConanThe3rd posted:Just watching through the remastered ep1 of DM when I hit a note. In the manga he didn't have them from the start, he tried to steal Yugi's grandpa's copy, but by.. I think his second appearance? He had the other three. His second appearance was where he tortured Yugi's grandpa in the holographic room, which I guess was adapted into hospitalising him before the duel with Yugi.
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Dabir posted:In the manga he didn't have them from the start, he tried to steal Yugi's grandpa's copy, but by.. I think his second appearance? He had the other three. His second appearance was where he tortured Yugi's grandpa in the holographic room, which I guess was adapted into hospitalising him before the duel with Yugi. He also mentions that to get those cards he ended up needing to bankrupt some company presidents and use his mafia ties to dispose of another one.
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Will the page 1 post on ZEXAL be some hyperbole one-liner THIS SUCKS DON'T WATCH THIS NO REALLY 4 REAL, or will there be an effort post detailing just how lovely the series is?
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Feb 11, 2015 00:47
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I certainly wouldn't demand that Beef Waifu go through and summarise all of the horribly dumb poo poo that happens in ZEXAL. I wouldn't blame him if it was just one line.
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If I just wanted to watch the highlights of 5Ds, which duels and moments should I check out?
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TheKingofSprings posted:If I just wanted to watch the highlights of 5Ds, which duels and moments should I check out? Everything through the Dark Signers arc and then the final 3 episodes or so. However long the Epilogue is.
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Dabir posted:In the manga he didn't have them from the start, he tried to steal Yugi's grandpa's copy, but by.. I think his second appearance? He had the other three. His second appearance was where he tortured Yugi's grandpa in the holographic room, which I guess was adapted into hospitalising him before the duel with Yugi. Yeah. Man, early yu-gi-oh was amazing. Kaiba literally got so mad over losing to Yugi that he built an entire murder-amusement park to kill him
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Feb 11, 2015 09:36
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Exercu posted:Yeah. Man, early yu-gi-oh was amazing. Kaiba literally got so mad over losing to Yugi that he built an entire murder-amusement park to kill him Wasn't Mokuba the one who tried to kill him with the Amusement Park? Oh yeah, reminder to people, Mokuba was a giant shithead in early Yu-Gi-Oh. Just as much an rear end in a top hat as seto. Fake Edit: No he pariticpates in Death-T but he challened Yugi to Capsule Monster Chess. He did however challenge Yugi and Jounouchi to Russian Roulette Dinner. Which is exactly what it sounds like and Mokuba was SUCH a massive shithead.
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Feb 11, 2015 10:12
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Oh man I actually completely forgot about the Russian Roulette Dinner. Honestly can't believe Yugi and co ever forgave the little brat for that.
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Wow. These new Pendulum cards are bullshit and the near one turn kills from this episode were incredibly lame. If there's one thing I dislike about Arc V it's how a lot of these kind of minor duels always have the unimportant guy instantly annihilate the protagonist without losing a life-point in order to make it into an underdog battle.The actual important duels tend to avoid this but it's still really annoying.
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Feb 11, 2015 12:33
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Wow. These new Pendulum cards are bullshit and the near one turn kills from this episode were incredibly lame. If there's one thing I dislike about Arc V it's how a lot of these kind of minor duels always have the unimportant guy instantly annihilate the protagonist without losing a life-point in order to make it into an underdog battle.The actual important duels tend to avoid this but it's still really annoying. Are these the Qualifier duels? because yeah they're the worst part of the series by far, except for the last. I just hop Arc-V doesn't get into Zexal territories of bullshit attack strength. Because it's something like 100k attack points.
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Onmi posted:Are these the Qualifier duels? because yeah they're the worst part of the series by far, except for the last. Yeah the qualifiers were what I was talking about but the latest episode was pretty bad about it too. And the only thing that has even reached anything resembling a kind of bullshit power level was one of Shun's falcons but only in an incredibly specific circumstance I doubt we'll need to worry about that for a while. Also, I thought Yuya's duel against Mieru was alright even though it followed the same structure. Maybe just because it had actual character growth.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Yeah the qualifiers were what I was talking about but the latest episode was pretty bad about it too. And the only thing that has even reached anything resembling a kind of bullshit power level was one of Shun's falcons but only in an incredibly specific circumstance I doubt we'll need to worry about that for a while. It also built up to the actual proper conclusion of the arc Pendulum Fusion and honestly... so long as the major duels remain well done, I'll be happy, it's when those duels are bad that it's like "Why even bother. Gongenzaka vs Yaiba immediatly turned me around on the character.
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Onmi posted:It also built up to the actual proper conclusion of the arc Pendulum Fusion and honestly... so long as the major duels remain well done, I'll be happy, it's when those duels are bad that it's like "Why even bother. Gongenzaka vs Yaiba immediatly turned me around on the character. The major duels have all been fantastic and at this point Arc V is my favourite Yugioh series (though this could change by the time it ends), but the huge underdog comebacks in minor duels has been an annoying trend it was finished for the most part after the qualifiers but episode 42 had some absolutely bullshit first turns. It's not making me dislike the show but it's just a little disappointing since for the most part it is really drat good.
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I just like Halil.  I wonder who they got to be her voice actress since she actually has proper English pronounciation. Kind of random actually, considering she's suppose to be Middle Eastern, I guess.
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Feb 11, 2015 14:07
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The major duels have all been fantastic and at this point Arc V is my favourite Yugioh series (though this could change by the time it ends), but the huge underdog comebacks in minor duels has been an annoying trend it was finished for the most part after the qualifiers but episode 42 had some absolutely bullshit first turns. It's not making me dislike the show but it's just a little disappointing since for the most part it is really drat good. It serves its purpose for the story as the Final nail in Yuyas pendulum monopoly coffin. Other than that yeah absolute bullshit draws. So they both got 2 pendulums 2 high levels and 1 fusion spell. I call bullshit.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:It serves its purpose for the story as the Final nail in Yuyas pendulum monopoly coffin. This is correct, but the rear end in a top hat martial artists remain absolutely terrible. Not only because they put Yuya on the ropes so fast (it's better than dragging out the duel with these unimportant guys when we have bigger fishes to fry from a plot standpoint) but because their monsters are the most boring, generic vaguely mystical warriors they could come up with. Halil, on the other hand, was pretty nice if somewhat politically incorrect. La Jinn is an absolute blast from the past, from back when Normal Summoning an level four, high attack monster was a viable strategy; and his Lamps' schtik is at least orginal from a mechanical standpoint. I was hoping Yuzu could beat him, thus making it her first on-screen win against a guy, but I'll settle for a tag team battle. And is that guy who saved Yuya's bacon going to be plot relevant? Goddamnit, the cast is already overcrowded as it is!
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Xoidanor posted:La Jinn actually being a normal monster cracked me up, I can't remember a single normal monster being played through the entirety of 5Ds. Team Taiyoh
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Wow. These new Pendulum cards are bullshit and the near one turn kills from this episode were incredibly lame. If there's one thing I dislike about Arc V it's how a lot of these kind of minor duels always have the unimportant guy instantly annihilate the protagonist without losing a life-point in order to make it into an underdog battle.The actual important duels tend to avoid this but it's still really annoying. I disagree. I think they do a good job creating tension, especially because the fate of the world isn't tied to winning the tournament and losing a match here doesn't mean you're automatically knocked out. It's a filler duel sure, but the fact that Yuya could lose is enough to keep me invested.
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Xoidanor posted:La Jinn actually being a normal monster cracked me up, I can't remember a single normal monster being played through the entirety of 5Ds. Unicycular. Maybe.
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Feb 11, 2015 17:45
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mabels big day posted:what the HELL did they do to mai's voice Her actress moved to California so they had to get a replacement.
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TheKingofSprings posted:If I just wanted to watch the highlights of 5Ds, which duels and moments should I check out? Jean's final turn.
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Kay Kessler posted:Her actress moved to California so they had to get a replacement. Speaking of, I got a good chuckle when she got herself "Killed" in the Virtual World thingy between Duelist Kingdom and Battle City because Megan Holisted voiced Lennith from Valkyrie Profile and when she dies in that it's practically the same effect.
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Slur posted:Jean's final turn. Any bit where the good guy gets out-played by the bad guy but the bad guy loses it all in the name of PLAYING THE GAME makes me laugh
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alcharagia posted:Any bit where the good guy gets out-played by the bad guy but the bad guy loses it all in the name of PLAYING THE GAME makes me laugh The best thing is that it was totally pointless. You can lose twice in the WRGX (...it was that, right?) before getting kicked out, Team 5D's never loses. They could've lost this, to a team that actually showed more skill, and instead they win in an incredibly stupid way because the opponent suddenly becomes mentally retarded and decides that winning is less important than...some weird, out of place, nonsensical pride. We could have avoided all this poo poo and still reached the same conclusion, but apparently our heroes must be absolutely invincible even if we have to gently caress everything up for it. God, I love 5D's and yet that must be the most infuriating moment in the entire history of YGO for me. Even Zexal at its worst does not compare.
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Blaze Dragon posted:The best thing is that it was totally pointless. You can lose twice in the WRGX (...it was that, right?) before getting kicked out, Team 5D's never loses. They could've lost this, to a team that actually showed more skill, and instead they win in an incredibly stupid way because the opponent suddenly becomes mentally retarded and decides that winning is less important than...some weird, out of place, nonsensical pride. To make things worse, every other team in their bracket was rendered unable to compete by either Team Catastrophe or the Battle Royale against that robot army. They didn't even win their second match, they just advanced by default. The writers could have easily had them lose once. Also, I don't know if this plot point was a dub-only thing or not, but it seemed like they foreshadowed that they would eventually face Ushio in the tournament. That would have been so much better than what we got instead.
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Blaze Dragon posted:The best thing is that it was totally pointless. You can lose twice in the WRGX (...it was that, right?) before getting kicked out, Team 5D's never loses. They could've lost this, to a team that actually showed more skill, and instead they win in an incredibly stupid way because the opponent suddenly becomes mentally retarded and decides that winning is less important than...some weird, out of place, nonsensical pride. i completely forgot until I just looked it up that Yusei literally loses two duels over the course of the entire series
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Blaze Dragon posted:Even Zexal at its worst does not compare. Re-contract Universe.
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alcharagia posted:i completely forgot until I just looked it up that Yusei literally loses two duels over the course of the entire series To be fair though, doesn't Yugi only lose once not including Filler? And that's when Kaiba threatens to commit suicide if Yugi beats him. I don't think main protagonists lose in Yugioh, like ever.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:To be fair though, doesn't Yugi only lose once not including Filler? And that's when Kaiba threatens to commit suicide if Yugi beats him. I don't think main protagonists lose in Yugioh, like ever. i still haven't gone through the original yugioh, i'll let you know when i do. that said, jaden did lose a few times. he lost to zane, kaibaman, and aster.
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alcharagia posted:i still haven't gone through the original yugioh, i'll let you know when i do. that said, jaden did lose a few times. he lost to zane, kaibaman, and aster. Kaiser beat the poo poo out of Judai every time they come against one another. And yes Kaibaman, Edo and in the Manga, to Manjoume in the final of the tournament.
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Onmi posted:Kaiser beat the poo poo out of Judai every time they come against one another. And yes Kaibaman, Edo and in the Manga, to Manjoume in the final of the tournament. Who the gently caress is Kaiser
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alcharagia posted:also, season 3 was just one giant loss on the part of the viewer. loss.jpg maybe...
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Oh wait, right, that was Zane's stupid nickname in the Japanese version Technically it was a tie at the end of Season 1
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SyntheticPolygon posted:To be fair though, doesn't Yugi only lose once not including Filler? And that's when Kaiba threatens to commit suicide if Yugi beats him. I don't think main protagonists lose in Yugioh, like ever. I love how close the series came to self-referencing this in the Grand Championship arc in season 5, with Kaiba blowing off the villain's literally hacked super magic card/virus with total confidence in Yugi's protagonist abilities.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:To be fair though, doesn't Yugi only lose once not including Filler? And that's when Kaiba threatens to commit suicide if Yugi beats him. I don't think main protagonists lose in Yugioh, like ever. There's some more thematic goodness in Yugi's wins, he and Atem are amazeballs in every game, and Atem winning stuff by the buckets becomes interesting when Yugi steps in to outperform him and remind the viewer that it's not just Atem who's rad as gently caress, that they're on the same plane while every other character is trying desperately to catch up to them. Also meanwhile we got Jonouchi tying card games to being a better person and having scraped-by duels against duelists while Yugi deals with the crazy cheaters/murderers. It's just a whole different set of issues they face compared to Jaden, Yusei, Yuma and Yuya so the plot armor is never a real annoyance, specially since they only play the two tournaments and that's it.
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Atem and Yugi lose two duels each (including filler). Yugi to suicidal Kaiba and Malik-controlledJounouchi. Atem to Raphael and Yugi (and I guess post-Battle City Jounouchi  ). The most amazing example of Atem's bullshit protagonist ability was taking Kaiba's place against Noah, shuffling Kaiba's deck into his own and starting off at 100 LP.  Destiny-motherfucking-Draw like a champ.
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