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Gerund: Sep 12, 2007; He push a man

oxbrain posted:

Or we expand the Seattle housing authority and provide city owned, subsidized housing. But that's socialism.

e: And by subsidized I mean non-profit. No reason it should cost the taxpayers much more than startup costs.

Other than a mass Pruitt-Igoe project (but not managed by deplorable racists this time), that is happening in the HUD HOPE VI projects, such as High Point.

# ? Feb 4, 2015 00:55

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 05:35

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

I mean really, do we even need full rooms? All you need is a place to sleep and store clothes. Everything else can be done in the public space. If you don't want to be around other people, we have therapists for that.

The slave class should probably be restricted to 8 hours of privacy per day. That will allow three worker units to share the same cell for sleeping purposes using alternating shifts. All cells will be use-restricted to sleeping only. We mustnt allow them too much time to plot and scheme.

# ? Feb 4, 2015 01:59

Ham Equity: Apr 16, 2013; The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.; Grimey Drawer

If you wanted to know how you're going to die, the answer is probably polio. Or maybe encephalitis brought on by measles.

# ? Feb 6, 2015 15:46

DR FRASIER KRANG: Feb 4, 2005; "Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Gerund posted:

The thing is, SEDUs (aka "apodments") can exist in the current regulatory framework, and frankly should exist in the neighborhoods they have been designated to exist in, because those neighborhoods are centered around extant and planned transit hubs, and are magnets for young, single, budget-conscious renters.

It's really too bad that, at least in the case of Seattle, the Urban Village concept has failed so spectacularly. Hell, there is an Urban Village near my house (RE: Westwood) that the city has invested literally $0 in capital investments since the concept was introduced.

There are SEDUs being built around the corner from my house because my neighborhood has been identified as an Urban Village. All that really means is that the BRT line comes through the neighborhood.

There are no concrete plans for grade-separated transit. There are no guarantees that any sort of light rail will make it's way to my side of town. All I can do is hope and pray that the powers that be figure out some kind of solution to the traffic bottleneck that is sure to occur at the West Seattle Bridge once hundreds and hundreds of units come online in the next two-three years.

poo poo is going to get Really Real in King County over the next couple years. Median house prices are up 8% from last year. Rental rates are skyrocketing. The homeless population in King County is up ~20% from last year.

# ? Feb 6, 2015 16:42

RuanGacho: Jun 20, 2002; "You're gunna break it!"

Bucket Joneses posted:

It's really too bad that, at least in the case of Seattle, the Urban Village concept has failed so spectacularly. Hell, there is an Urban Village near my house (RE: Westwood) that the city has invested literally $0 in capital investments since the concept was introduced.

There are SEDUs being built around the corner from my house because my neighborhood has been identified as an Urban Village. All that really means is that the BRT line comes through the neighborhood.

There are no concrete plans for grade-separated transit. There are no guarantees that any sort of light rail will make it's way to my side of town. All I can do is hope and pray that the powers that be figure out some kind of solution to the traffic bottleneck that is sure to occur at the West Seattle Bridge once hundreds and hundreds of units come online in the next two-three years.

poo poo is going to get Really Real in King County over the next couple years. Median house prices are up 8% from last year. Rental rates are skyrocketing. The homeless population in King County is up ~20% from last year.

My home in south king county went up like 20% so madness is coming. This of course leads to more "my taxes went up 20%!! Government is doing the math wrong!"

Best Friends posted:

Tax penalties for owners of vacant properties sound interesting. Anyone know if anything has been written on their effects? Places like New York, SF and London have a decent fraction of all downtown units sitting vacant most of the year, with them being purchased as 2 week a year pads by the superwealthy. While taxing them won't dissuade most of the superwealthy from not doing that (because they are superwealthy) it might have a little effect at the margins, and would at least give extra revenue to the city.

While this doesn't seem a terrible idea, the government staffing requirements to enforce it are probably untenable. Just enforcing a reasonable sign code has local business owners trying to pull poo poo on the weekends because they think city hall is closed.

# ? Feb 6, 2015 17:12

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Thanatosian posted:

If you wanted to know how you're going to die, the answer is probably polio. Or maybe encephalitis brought on by measles.

That's just too bizarre. Bill Gates spends billions fighting polio in Africa etc. while in his own back yard it could just flare up because of morons.

# ? Feb 6, 2015 22:05

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

Thanatosian posted:

If you wanted to know how you're going to die, the answer is probably polio. Or maybe encephalitis brought on by measles.

Well hey, at least your still more likely to be killed by an alcoholic with a car. :guinness:

Small condolences?

# ? Feb 7, 2015 04:21

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!

Solkanar512 posted:

Dinosaur piss would be an awesome name for a beer.

Hell yes

# ? Feb 7, 2015 06:54

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anthonypants posted:

For the exact same loving reason that every other consumer protection law exists.

Still waiting for a response here.

Why shouldn't SEDU's exist at all?

What actual harm do they cause.

# ? Feb 7, 2015 07:38

Solkanar512: Dec 28, 2006; by the sex ghost

Thanatosian posted:

If you wanted to know how you're going to die, the answer is probably polio. Or maybe encephalitis brought on by measles.

Sweet, over a third of Washington schools don't return their legally required vaccination exemption data, but there's no way to enforce it.

Looking at my old stomping grounds (Mukilteo School District), it's interesting how all the schools on the poor side have exemption rates of 0.5-3.5%, while the rich side is above 8% or simply not reporting.

# ? Feb 7, 2015 07:55

Farmer Crack-Ass: Jan 2, 2001; this is me posting irl

Solkanar512 posted:

Sweet, over a third of Washington schools don't return their legally required vaccination exemption data, but there's no way to enforce it.

Looking at my old stomping grounds (Mukilteo School District), it's interesting how all the schools on the poor side have exemption rates of 0.5-3.5%, while the rich side is above 8% or simply not reporting.

quote:

Washington law requires all school to report vaccination data to the Department of Health. However, about one-third of schools in Washington did not comply. According to the health department, there is no mechanism to enforce the law, and additionally, no funding is given to schools to gather and report this data.

Sounds like Washington legislators need to amend the law to tie accreditation to vaccination reporting compliance.

# ? Feb 10, 2015 18:22

Ham Equity: Apr 16, 2013; The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.; Grimey Drawer

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

Sounds like Washington legislators need to amend the law to tie accreditation to vaccination reporting compliance.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, Washington legislators actually doing something, ahahahahahahahahahahahah!

Oh, even better, Washington legislators doing something that will piss off a bunch of white people, while the Republicans are in control of the Senate.

# ? Feb 10, 2015 18:37

Peztopiary: Mar 16, 2009; by exmarx

All you'd have to do is convince them it would piss off white liberals (it would, for whatever reason lots of the elites don't vaccinate) and they'd be in favor. If Seattle was smart they'd talk about how much they hate Bertha. Watch the state get them out of the mess through spite.

# ? Feb 10, 2015 19:30

Best Friends: Nov 4, 2011

Solkanar512 posted:

Looking at my old stomping grounds (Mukilteo School District), it's interesting how all the schools on the poor side have exemption rates of 0.5-3.5%, while the rich side is above 8% or simply not reporting.

"Alternative medicine" is apparently a luxury good. It does not make a lot of sense, but here we are.

# ? Feb 10, 2015 19:43

oxbrain: Aug 18, 2005; Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and come on up to the mothership.

Yet another armed protest at the capitol this past saturday.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/armed-gun-rights-advocates-rally-washington-state-capitol-28801435

posted:

"What's the world coming to when there are people who want to break the law and they won't let you do it?" said Dave Grenier, 58, of Tumwater, as his fellow pro-gun demonstrators began to file out of the Capitol.

oxbrain fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Feb 11, 2015

# ? Feb 11, 2015 03:02

Magres: Jul 14, 2011

Why would you give a kid such a crappy nerf gun?

The Maverick is a piece of garbage and jams constantly

# ? Feb 11, 2015 03:20

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

oxbrain posted:

Yet another armed protest at the capitol this past saturday.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/armed-gun-rights-advocates-rally-washington-state-capitol-28801435

Is that kid sticking his finger in the trigger because that would be amazing

# ? Feb 11, 2015 03:27

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!

anthonypants posted:

Is that kid sticking his finger in the trigger because that would be amazing

That was my first thought as well

# ? Feb 11, 2015 03:35

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kensei posted:

That was my first thought as well

In order to have proper trigger discipline, one must first have discipline of any kind.

Unlike that kid's dad.

# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:41

smg77: Apr 27, 2007

oxbrain posted:

Yet another armed protest at the capitol this past saturday.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/armed-gun-rights-advocates-rally-washington-state-capitol-28801435

quote:

"What's the world coming to when there are people who want to break the law and they won't let you do it?" said Dave Grenier, 58, of Tumwater, as his fellow pro-gun demonstrators began to file out of the Capitol.

I can't even imagine the amount of effort it must take for these people to maintain their level of constant outrage.

# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:47

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

HAHAHA jesus christ he's got his finger through the trigger guard that is beautiful. I mean it's clearly not cocked but still.

Also the guy has a drat SERPA holster for his 1911, which has a retention button really close to the trigger and is a great way to shoot yourself in the leg. This guy's batting a thousand.

# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:53

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SedanChair posted:

HAHAHA jesus christ he's got his finger through the trigger guard that is beautiful. I mean it's clearly not cocked but still.

Also the guy has a drat SERPA holster for his 1911, which has a retention button really close to the trigger and is a great way to shoot yourself in the leg. This guy's batting a thousand.

Almost as if dumb people are the ones most likely to believe dumb things enough to protest about them.

I feel sorry for the people that kid is gonna mass murder when he grows up.

# ? Feb 11, 2015 05:30

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

Error 404 posted:

Almost as if dumb people are the ones most likely to believe dumb things enough to protest about them.

I feel sorry for the people that kid is gonna mass murder when he grows up.

Well that's all very random.

# ? Feb 11, 2015 06:19

Javid: Oct 21, 2004

I like the decision to pack a musket to a protest. That'd be my move, minus the kid and the open carried pistol.

# ? Feb 11, 2015 07:10

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

What is that in his pocket a hunting knife? What about your weak side bro. What are you going to whip out if they come at you from 9 o'clock? The kid already flanked you.

# ? Feb 11, 2015 07:13

mrchoupon: Jun 3, 2001

In related news, there was a gun control protest at the Oregon capital yesterday

quote:

BJ Soper, a 39-year-old Redmond member of The Heirs of Patrick Henry and the Central Oregon Constitutional Guard was outfitted in a camouflage uniform and carried a loaded semi-automatic AR-15. He said that he and several others volunteered to act as security for the event.

"We're out here reassure people that there are Americans still willing to stand up for their rights and liberties," Soper said.

Soper also had six magazines of ammunition, a large knife hooked to the front of his uniform and a radio to communicate with the security detail. The group of men took turns on the steps of the building, rotating in pairs to the sidewalk nearest Court Street NE.

First off, I don't understand why they feel the need for people to act as "security". Seriously, radio communication for a length of sidewalk shorter than a city block? Secondly, I know they're trying to make a point but why do they need to bring so much? Was he afraid he was going to go through his first magazine?

# ? Feb 11, 2015 07:49

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They're playing army man, of course they're going to bring radios. "Krrhshshsh THIS IS FOX COMPANY, WE'RE PINNED DOWN BY THE FOOD CART AND NEED EMERGENCY EVAC!"

# ? Feb 11, 2015 07:58

Ernie Muppari: Aug 4, 2012; Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

what's the point of the knife anyway?

if the jemhadar rush the baracades with their kartakin at the ready then what're the redshirts expecting to accomplish with their piddling little kabars?

# ? Feb 11, 2015 10:19

Lazy_Liberal: Sep 17, 2005; These stones are precious

Ernie Muppari posted:

what's the point of the knife anyway?

if the jemhadar rush the baracades with their kartakin at the ready then what're the redshirts expecting to accomplish with their piddling little kabars?

Frankly, I don't understand why they don't just set their phasers to wide-beam all the drat time for scenarios just like this.

# ? Feb 11, 2015 22:01

Ernie Muppari: Aug 4, 2012; Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

Lazy_Liberal posted:

Frankly, I don't understand why they don't just set their phasers to wide-beam all the drat time for scenarios just like this.

it's because phasers have a limited power supply

in this hypothetical san rio the redshirts have surely already felled like, a million jemmies offscreen and now are forced to engage in excitingly choriographed ~~a2m~~ h2h combat

:goonsay:

# ? Feb 11, 2015 22:38

got any sevens: Feb 9, 2013; by Cyrano4747

Surprise surprise, the first charter school in washington is being investigated. Who could have predicted after years of failures in other states that it'd fail here too?!?!?!

# ? Feb 11, 2015 23:48

smg77: Apr 27, 2007

Is all this drama with Kitzhaber's girlfriend a real story or is The Oregonian just going full :foxnews:

# ? Feb 12, 2015 03:17

Schwack: Jan 31, 2003; Someone needs to stop this! Sherman has lost his mind! Peyton is completely unable to defend himself out there!

smg77 posted:

Is all this drama with Kitzhaber's girlfriend a real story or is The Oregonian just going full ?

They were speculating that he was resigning today. Secretary of state cut short her trip to dc and the governor cancelled plans for the state's anniversary.

No idea if they walked back their speculation.

# ? Feb 12, 2015 03:20

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

smg77 posted:

Is all this drama with Kitzhaber's girlfriend a real story or is The Oregonian just going full ?

No, it's real enough. Kitzhaber has been dancing around the issue for a long time now, and now that he's finally allowed an investigation to take place, he's decided to fight with the AG that it's not a criminal investigation, which is bullshit. He's not going to resign, so expect the dance to continue for another year or more.

# ? Feb 12, 2015 03:22

koreban: Apr 4, 2008; I guess we all learned that trying to get along is way better than p. . .player hatin'.; Fun Shoe

anthonypants posted:

No, it's real enough. Kitzhaber has been dancing around the issue for a long time now, and now that he's finally allowed an investigation to take place, he's decided to fight with the AG that it's not a criminal investigation, which is bullshit. He's not going to resign, so expect the dance to continue for another year or more.

If he wanted to divert some of the attention to it he might get out in front of Hanjin pulling out of Terminal 6 in Port of Portland because of the antics of the local longshoremen's union. Even the most pro-union person should be pissed about the poo poo they've pulled.

The Oregonian recapped the contract details a few days ago: http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2015/02/port_operators_association_rat.html

# ? Feb 12, 2015 08:20

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

koreban posted:

If he wanted to divert some of the attention to it he might get out in front of Hanjin pulling out of Terminal 6 in Port of Portland because of the antics of the local longshoremen's union. Even the most pro-union person should be pissed about the poo poo they've pulled.

The Oregonian recapped the contract details a few days ago: http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2015/02/port_operators_association_rat.html

I'm fully ready for that to be another "all unions are bad" thing, despite evidence that Hanjin was on their way out a year ago http://portlandtransport.com/archives/2013/12/inevitable-end-container-traffic-port-portland.html

# ? Feb 12, 2015 12:31

oxbrain: Aug 18, 2005; Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and come on up to the mothership.

We'll bring all that business to WA and hire teenagers to do the work. :smug:

http://www.king5.com/story/news/politics/2015/02/11/washington-teens-minimum-wage/23223509/

quote:

Washington teens could be paid less than minimum wage
SEATTLE -- A new proposal to pay teenagers lower than the state minimum wage is moving through the legislature with a key vote Wednesday.

Senate Bill 5422, sponsored by Sen. Michael Baumgartner, R-Spokane, would allow businesses to pay anyone under the age of 20 the federal minimum wage, which is currently $7.25, as opposed to the minimum wage in Washington state of $9.47.

Baumgartner says the new "training wage" would open up more opportunities for teenagers in entry-level jobs to gain early experience. The unemployment rate among teenagers, currently around 30%, has historically increased as the minimum wage increases because business owners are choosing to hire more experienced workers.

"We want to get them working again," said Anthony Anton, President and CEO of the Washington Restaurant Association and a vocal supporter of the training wage option. Anton points out that in 2000, 17% of restaurant jobs were filled by teens. That number has dwindled to 7%.

"These are skills carried onto sales, onto management. They are lifetime skills," he said. "We really want to get back to offering their kids their first job."

Opponents, some of whom include working teens and young parents, say the higher wage helps them pay for college and other rising expenses.

Another bill, SB 5421, would also create a training wage but would limit those lower wages to the summer months. Both bills are expected to make it out of the Senate Committee on Commerce & Labor on Wednesday.

# ? Feb 12, 2015 14:45

Accretionist: Nov 7, 2012; I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

About time someone went to bat for Child Labor.

# ? Feb 12, 2015 14:47

DR FRASIER KRANG: Feb 4, 2005; "Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

That sort of law makes sense if by "teen" you mean kids from the age of 14 to 17. Once you apply it to people who are out of high school and possibly trying to support themselves, you're just hurting people who are trying to be responsible citizens.

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anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

oxbrain posted:

"We want to get them working again," said Anthony Anton, President and CEO of the Washington Restaurant Association and a vocal supporter of the training wage option. Anton points out that in 2000, 17% of restaurant jobs were filled by teens. That number has dwindled to 7%."

What we desperately need is to lay off the aging 10% of our workforce who only took these jobs because the economy went to poo poo, and replace them with kids at minimum wage who don't know any better. This is good for the economy.

# ? Feb 12, 2015 14:54

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