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Endless Mike posted:My favorite part of this is that no one can say "WWE" fast but also accurate. At the end of a JBL Show, they had Paige doing a bumper and she says "Dubber Dubberee" one time and "Dubber Dubbee" the other. The best pronunciation is DOUBLE DOUBLE E. I still think that Vladimir Kozlov as a monster heel with goofy foreigner-isms would've been amazing if he could wrestle.
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Endless Mike posted:My favorite part of this is that no one can say "WWE" fast but also accurate. At the end of a JBL Show, they had Paige doing a bumper and she says "Dubber Dubberee" one time and "Dubber Dubbee" the other. yes but she talks funny normally so
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Chokes McGee posted:yes but she talks funny normally so You know what would be great entrance music for her? Sirens!
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AngryCaterpillar posted:You know what would be great entrance music for her? Sirens! A loud, abrasive noise to let us know that a goofy foreigner is here, and we should all be ready to laugh at them? Go on...
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Gonzo McFee posted:I know we hear it so much but I still get a tinge of sadness when I get reminded that anyone who talks about how buisness used to be they're called passed it and out of touch but when new writers come in with their new ideas they're bullied and mocked for not understanding the buisness. Vince wants to prove to himself that he is more intelligent than: 1. Everyone who's old 2. Everyone who's young You can see how this might be counterproductive. I feel bad for Hunter since he obviously knows what he's doing with NXT.
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BGrifter posted:Piper is way too busy doing a fantastic podcast that's more entertaining than Raw could ever hope to be. I want every retired wrestler from the last 25-30 years to come back for a week as a road agent or part of creative, just so we can see them call Vince and every idiot writer out on how stupid they sound and why their promos and storylines sound loving awful. If anyone could talk sense into Vince and the writers, I could see a team like Piper, Austin, Dusty, Regal and a few others giving no fucks and telling it like it is.
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Ozz81 posted:I want every retired wrestler from the last 25-30 years to come back for a week as a road agent or part of creative, just so we can see them call Vince and every idiot writer out on how stupid they sound and why their promos and storylines sound loving awful. If anyone could talk sense into Vince and the writers, I could see a team like Piper, Austin, Dusty, Regal and a few others giving no fucks and telling it like it is. The problem is that most retired wresters actually give many fucks about what Vince thinks, because they like the money that being associated with the WWE brings. Like if you're some retired wrestler why would you give two fucks if WWE books coherent storylines as long as they still send you royalty cheques and bring you in for the odd booking payday. Knowing that Vince is a crazy man and you could end up on his bad side and frozen out quite easily.
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triplexpac posted:The problem is that most retired wresters actually give many fucks about what Vince thinks, because they like the money that being associated with the WWE brings. I wish someone like Austin was involved in creative, and would just fight Vince on the stupid stuff. Then again, Austin eventually just got tired of fighting everything. Still bummed we never got Eddie/Austin.
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So, WWE's financial results are out for Q4. Conference call later today. There were 816,000 WWE Network subscribers as of 12/31. 1 million as of 1/27. So, a gain of 185,000 for the Royal Rumble + UK launch. 242,000 signed up for the free trial in November. 44,000 subscribers are international as of 12/31. Does not include UK launch. There have been 1.4 Million Unique subscribers. TLC did the new lowest buyrate in WWE history at 39,000 buys. More Network content: quote:The Company is evaluating opportunities to expand the range of original
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Animation? I want a cartoon where Kane is Corporate Kane by day, Demonic Superhero by night. Make it happen, WWE.
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So they're going to do live animated specials? You'd think that would make the animators hands very tired
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Spermgod posted:It's worth bearing in mind that however many they added for the UK launch, none of those are paying customers yet. No. They had 731,000 subscribers by the end of September 30. 816,000 by the end of December. Gain of 85,000. 242,000 signed up for the free trial. They however, from September 30th to January 27 gained 270,000. So, I'm sure a lot of the free trial subscribers came back for the Rumble. No proof of that however. Good point on UK. No one is paying yet. Daniel Bryan fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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Great White Hope posted:Animation? Malibu Kane.
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70% of the free trial subscribers were active again in January. UK/Ireland is their 2nd biggest market overnight. 87,000 new International subscribers as of 1/27. Have to imagine a huge majority of those were UK/Ireland. On more free trials: "No commitment on that." They monitor who signs up again for free trials again after cancelling. An investor just called to ask if Wrestlemania would be on the Network. She also thought absolutely no one paid in November. What are they planning to do to stop cancellations after Mania? "We've got to deliver incredible value. Great experience. That's what we're working hard on. Starts with PPVs but new content we'll talk about soon. That's how we'll keep subscribers long term." How are other original contents doing? How does NXT contribute? "Live content is successful. Amazing that NXT trends on Twitter regularly when it's only on the Network, especially when live. NXT is a favorite among fans, especially on the Network." How does the WWE fanbase relate to the MMA fans? Looking to build bridges to MMA fans? "We're about multi generational family viewing. Fundamentally different than MMA." WWE Network advertising revenue is tiny. Cancel WWE Network? How does that affect? Vince: "Created controversy. Good for us. Santa didn't come to those fans. A vocal minority. The babyface doesn't win, and people say they won't watch but they're back the next week. It was good for us." I guess Roman Reigns isn't a babyface. Daniel Bryan fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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Great White Hope posted:Animation? Sailor Moon But With Kane would redefine the industry.
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The WWE spin machine has started even earlier this year. "The plan was always to turn Roman Reigns heel. Daniel Bryan was always going to be in the main event."
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I will live with Bryan vs Vince if Brock don't happen.
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maxallen posted:Got to love that Meltzer's summary of one of the most famous moments of all time - the first time kayfabe was ever truly broken in the ring - in an angle to work the smarks was "Strange. DUD", and flew right over his head. He actually has like a 10 paragraph write up about the entire situation in (I believe) that exact same issue of the observer. At least at this time his actual match write ups were almost always devoid of anything other than judging the "work rate" or whatever of the match, and everyone else was separate. edit: it features this amazing showcase of Disco Inferno being the greatest mind in the business quote:Disco Inferno was the only wrestler to openly question things suddenly saying something to the effect of, "They're working the boys." Disco knew what was up
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Korelle posted:The WWE spin machine has started even earlier this year. Daniel Bryan will main-event 10 Wrestlemanias in a row without ever being the planned main event. Belee dat.
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The Bee posted:Sailor Moon But With Kane would redefine the industry. Daniel Bryan as Tuxedo Mask
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Dias posted:Daniel Bryan will main-event 10 Wrestlemanias in a row without ever being the planned main event. Belee dat. It was always our plan to put him in the HoF
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Korelle posted:The WWE spin machine has started even earlier this year. is this seriously something Vince said? they can't really expect people to believe this. Why have Bryan get unceremoniously dumped out before Roman's even in the ring? Wouldn't you have Reigns eliminate him? Why the rehab Raw right after the Rumble to try and sell fans on his heritage? Why have The Rock come out?
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Marquis de Pyro posted:He actually has like a 10 paragraph write up about the entire situation in (I believe) that exact same issue of the observer. At least at this time his actual match write ups were almost always devoid of anything other than judging the "work rate" or whatever of the match, and everyone else was separate. He was probably one of the guys who thought WWF buying WCW was a work too
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That DICK! posted:is this seriously something Vince said? they can't really expect people to believe this. Why have Bryan get unceremoniously dumped out before Roman's even in the ring? Wouldn't you have Reigns eliminate him? Why the rehab Raw right after the Rumble to try and sell fans on his heritage? Why have The Rock come out? Here's a hint: he's lying.
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Guignol posted:daniel bryan will be sitting in a comfy chair ringside at every main event just in case they need him I honestly wonder if Vince regrets ever hiring Bryan. I have to think he sees Bryan as this little hobo who ruins WrestleManias and Royal Rumbles and his perfect plans.
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Dias posted:Daniel Bryan will main-event 10 Wrestlemanias in a row without ever being the planned main event. Belee dat. Daniel Bryan is the Gerald Ford of wrestling. Success happens to him.
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Red posted:I honestly wonder if Vince regrets ever hiring Bryan. Of this I legit have no doubt. If Bryan actually did any politicking or whatever, Vince would probably have given him a Cena esque push for legitimately ruining his plans and foiling him so much because he's weird like that but it's the fans who forced this on him and DB is what he hates most about Millennials
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Red posted:I honestly wonder if Vince regrets ever hiring Bryan. daniel bryan is inspector gadget to vince's dr. claw, bumbling his way to success through happy-go-lucky circumstance we, the audience, are the dog that actually solves the case by disabling all his traps and killing the hired goons (roman reigns) next time, bryan! next tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime
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NutritiousSnack posted:Of this I legit have no doubt. If Bryan actually did any politicking or whatever, Vince would probably have given him a Cena esque push for legitimately ruining his plans and foiling him so much because he's weird like that but it's the fans who forced this on him and DB is what he hates most about Millennials Huh. I mean, I get that. I would hope it's just us talking and speculating, but I can see it adding up. I can totally see Daniel not politicking as "Millennials don't want the brass ring". Austin and HHH and Shawn all argued and fought for their pushes their way, and Bryan just shrugs and works his rear end off. Bryan also doesn't eat meat or own a TV, and is dating the twin without implants. Vince just doesn't understand any of that. I can't imagine, if any of that speculation is true, how much Bryan's stock was boosted by flipping out on Triple H for stopping that match where Bryan appeared to be hurt.
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If Vince didn't like Bryan he wouldn't be where he is now, no matter the crowd reaction. It's just a question as to how much he likes him compared to other people.
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Codependent Poster posted:If Vince didn't like Bryan he wouldn't be where he is now, no matter the crowd reaction. It's just a question as to how much he likes him compared to other people. I would agree. Everything I/we have ever read about Vince says he respects those who are ambitious. I can see how, in his worldview, Bryan's demeanor and approach come off as being some type of lazy.
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Codependent Poster posted:If Vince didn't like Bryan he wouldn't be where he is now, no matter the crowd reaction. It's just a question as to how much he likes him compared to other people. I mean Bryan makes them quite a bit of money, his merch sales were second to only Cena's for quite some time and may still be for all I know.
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NutritiousSnack posted:Daniel Bryan as Tuxedo Mask Instead of showing up to give support and exposition, he just pops in once an episode to knee someone's face off and insist he's the tag team champions.
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If Vince didn't love Bryan: Bryan would be buried Vince wouldn't have rehired Bryan Bryan would not be main eventing shows, Vince would trying to actively find ways to kill all the heat he has or transfer it to someone else. At the very least Bryan would not be well protected at all, and he has been incredibly protected the past 2 years. Vince clearly loves Bryan. He just can't get it around his head how or why the crowd wants some short bearded weirdo with no ambition. E: Name me one wrestler more protected than Bryan right now in the WWE (no part timers) maxallen fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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