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Red posted:I would agree. Everything I/we have ever read about Vince says he respects those who are ambitious. I can see how, in his worldview, Bryan's demeanor and approach come off as being some type of lazy. Bryan took a WWE employee survey that revealed he is one of the least ambitious people they have haha At least in terms of what they consider ambition to be
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Endless Mike posted:My favorite part of this is that no one can say "WWE" fast but also accurate. At the end of a JBL Show, they had Paige doing a bumper and she says "Dubber Dubberee" one time and "Dubber Dubbee" the other. Chris Jericho has somehow always been really, really good at saying WWE really fast in interviews. Next time you see a Jericho interview, listen for his "Dubyewdubyewee". I started noticing it a couple years ago. Spikeguy posted:Daniel Bryan is the Gerald Ford of wrestling. Success happens to him. "A fireball destroyed France today and Daniel Bryan is champion. Now what are the chances of that ever happening?"
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maxallen posted:If Vince didn't love Bryan: I think Vince realizes Bryan is really good in the ring, has the crowd behind him, and can make him money. But that doesn't mean Vince isn't looking at him going, "Come on, start fighting for this poo poo!".
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Maybe Vince argues against himself on Bryan's behalf because his lazy millennial rear end won't do it which is why he's ended up a main eventer
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sticklefifer posted:Chris Jericho has somehow always been really, really good at saying WWE really fast in interviews. Next time you see a Jericho interview, listen for his "Dubyewdubyewee". I started noticing it a couple years ago. I would assume Jericho's taken acting classes and stuff, since he had a time there where he wanted to make it as a star outside of wrestling. I bet that helped?
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Lloyd Boner posted:Maybe Vince argues against himself on Bryan's behalf because his lazy millennial rear end won't do it which is why he's ended up a main eventer Vince really likes the balls on this Vince guy, he won't back down!
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Feb 12, 2015 19:56
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maxallen posted:
Bray Wyatt.
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Which is astounding given how he was treated after Cena beat him and the Wyatts silly.
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DeathChicken posted:Which is astounding given how he was treated after Cena beat him and the Wyatts silly. Not to mention being dumped like a chump in the Rumble after a strong showing. Such a weird mixed message.
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Red posted:I think Vince realizes Bryan is really good in the ring, has the crowd behind him, and can make him money. But that doesn't mean Vince isn't looking at him going, "Come on, start fighting for this poo poo!". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JsJh3_-6mM&t=108s
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Then again Bryan had that stretch where Michael Cole *would not shut up* about how much he sucked. Then he was fired and they went as far as to tell him to just chill for a bit and they'd hire him right back. I guess he paid his dues. Or I might be mixing up the timeframe of all that, Heel Cole is a blur of why am I watching this.
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triplexpac posted:Not to mention being dumped like a chump in the Rumble after a strong showing. Such a weird mixed message. I don't get how Mercury and Noble can be such good workers and such terrible agents. At least have Bray fight valiantly and be overwhelmed by the two giants instead of "BIG SHOW IS SO BIG, HIS FIST IS LIKE A KETTLE, LOOKIT" and then dumping him like a sack of poo poo. EDIT: Nope, Heel Cole was AFTER he got rehired as a babyface and was feuding with Cole's mancrush, Miz.
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Gaz-L posted:I don't get how Mercury and Noble can be such good workers and such terrible agents. either noble or mercury forget which, but whichever one it was is basically responsible for the shield being as protected as they were so i'd say they're pretty fuckin good agents
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Gaz-L posted:I don't get how Mercury and Noble can be such good workers and such terrible agents. Michael Hayes was the agent for the Rumble.
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Gaz-L posted:I don't get how Mercury and Noble can be such good workers and such terrible agents. They had nothing to do with that Rumble, dude.
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Gaz-L posted:I don't get how Mercury and Noble can be such good workers and such terrible agents. EDIT: Beaten several times.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Michael Hayes was the agent for the Rumble. God drat Michael Hayes!!! I mean the man invented entrance music so I can't hate him TOO much but still
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Hey umObserver posted:Regarding all the criticism of the Rumble match, Jamie Noble was the producer of the match with Joey Mercury as the assistant. Also involved in putting the match together were Michael Hayes, Pat Patterson and Brian James.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Hey um What in the ACTUAL gently caress
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Daniel Bryan posted:Hey um I've never liked Jamie Noble in anything he's done.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Hey um Well never mind. EugeneJ posted:I've never liked Jamie Noble in anything he's done. I liked it when he dropped the ROH title to Daniel Bryan Danielson.
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I'm choosing to believe that since Hayes and Road Dogg were involved it's all their fault.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Hey um I don't know what to believe anymore.
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Just blame Vince.
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Gonna watch Sheamus murdering Jamie Noble again as that one AWESOME guy just loving cackles right near the mic and yells "KILL 'IM AGAIN BIG RED" and about what a bum Noble is.
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projecthalaxy posted:I'm choosing to believe that since Hayes and Road Dogg were involved it's all their fault. I am willing to believe Road Dogg is great at promos. I am willing to believe Michael Hayes tells guys "just look cool and say 'you see'" a lot".
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Feb 12, 2015 20:58
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triplexpac posted:Not to mention being dumped like a chump in the Rumble after a strong showing. Such a weird mixed message. Who was not eliminated like a chump in the Rumble?
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Astro7x posted:Who was not eliminated like a chump in the Rumble? 
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Astro7x posted:Who was not eliminated like a chump in the Rumble? Roman reigns, Curtis axel
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Astro7x posted:Who was not eliminated like a chump in the Rumble? Ziggler, Wyatt and Ambrose only got eliminated after being hit by the most destructive finisher in the WWE.
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Biggest human being Ever posted:Ziggler, Wyatt and Ambrose only got eliminated after being hit by the most destructive finisher in the WWE. Worst than it possibly being spiteful to their fans, it's boring television. People watch the Rumble to watch great eliminations. Those were just boring.
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The Carcinogenic Fists of the Big Show. I have more faith in the people involved than to assume that the brief for the Rumble was "outline a good match"
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DeathChicken posted:Which is astounding given how he was treated after Cena beat him and the Wyatts silly. I feel like Cena booking exists in a vacuum independently of any other WWE booking. If you keep your distance you can look amazing and strong and huge like a supergiant. Anytime you're booked to be an enemy of Cena his gravitational pull slingshots you away from any major opportunities and kills all your momentum, but otherwise you're usually booked pretty strongly and it's possible to recover afterward. If you're booked to be a friend of Cena on the other hand, he just swallows you outright and you die.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Gonna watch Sheamus murdering Jamie Noble again as that one AWESOME guy just loving cackles right near the mic and yells "KILL 'IM AGAIN BIG RED" and about what a bum Noble is. I believe that was Noble's retirement angle, too. I think that was his last active appearance (besides his return in J&J Security).
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I feel like the end of the rumble wouldn't have been as bad if it wasn't Big Show's Wimpy Nerd Punch that turned everyone into sacks of potatoes. Maybe, just maybe, if it wasn't literally the worst looking, fakest garbage move in the history of wrestling it would not have been so bad.
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Authorman posted:I feel like the end of the rumble wouldn't have been as bad if it wasn't Big Show's Wimpy Nerd Punch that turned everyone into sacks of potatoes. Does Show even do the chokeslam anymore?
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I might have this twisted, but wasn't the word that the writers and agents are actively discouraged from interacting? How are you supposed to lay out an entertaining hour-plus match that intertwines and progresses several storylines and kickstarts others when that's the case?
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Spermgod posted:I might have this twisted, but wasn't the word that the writers and agents are actively discouraged from interacting? How are you supposed to lay out an entertaining hour-plus match that intertwines and progresses several storylines and kickstarts others when that's the case? Storylines are storylines, silly. You have dialogue to advance them, not matches! 
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maxallen posted:E: Name me one wrestler more protected than Bryan right now in the WWE (no part timers) The Big Show.
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