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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

You may still be able to save your mom if you can find a 10th level cleric or druid who can cast restoration, but make sure she doesn't possess a Solid Gold Talisman of the Dollar, because its power can only be broken if you get her to willingly commit an act of altruistic self-sacrifice for a stranger.

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Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.
Ur mom sounds like she's heading down a bad road, fella

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
Imagining the bedroom chat of Objectivist couples is very unpleasant to me.

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

SedanChair posted:

Imagining the bedroom chat of Objectivist couples is very unpleasant to me.

'I don't want you to give it to me - I want you to make me pay for it' :homebrew: :a2m:

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Caros posted:

Play warhams. Ayn Rand's work is universally garbage.

So is Warhammer 40k

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

In the end, there's not THAT much difference between Rand and the Dark Eldar.

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
Split the difference and play Rogue Trader?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



You're a Something Awful poster and you have to ask whether to play Warhams? Of course you play Warhams.

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?
Atlas Shrugged is just boring, I don't know how you made it an hour into the audio book. I tried to watch the movie. At ninety minutes, it felt longer than the Seven Samurai, which is more than f double it's length.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Cemetry Gator posted:

Atlas Shrugged is just boring, I don't know how you made it an hour into the audio book. I tried to watch the movie. At ninety minutes, it felt longer than the Seven Samurai, which is more than f double it's length.

Reminder that Atlas Shrugged The Movie was so shatteringly successful that they had to resort to Kickstarters and stuff to fund the sequels because the market had such an intense demand for more.

TheArmorOfContempt
Nov 29, 2012

Did I ever tell you my favorite color was blue?

Mister Adequate posted:

You're a Something Awful poster and you have to ask whether to play Warhams? Of course you play Warhams.

Everyone is also going to be playing Smash Bros...really impossible to resist. I just wanted to relate my Objectivism related story. I don't really even think my biggest beef with Objectivism is the ideology itself, but more how it seems to infect some of the most intelligent individuals I have met. I don't understand how such level-headed people embrace this. They are not selfish individuals by any stretch, which makes it all the more strange to hear them salivate over it, which makes me wonder what is really going on. Is there just a core of egomania in them that I am missing, or is it purely the desire to be independent?

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Cemetry Gator posted:

Atlas Shrugged is just boring, I don't know how you made it an hour into the audio book. I tried to watch the movie. At ninety minutes, it felt longer than the Seven Samurai, which is more than f double it's length.

The Atlas Shrugged films are hilarious. They look like they were released by Asylum and should be paired in a $5 DVD set with Sharknado or some poo poo. Main characters are played by different people in the sequels as actors slowly abandoned ship. The scenes border on nonsensical because they had to trim down everything from the bloated piece of poo poo that was the book but hit all the key points, so at times it comes across as a series of bizarre, barely related vignettes. Even if I were an objectivist I would be embarrassed that this is the best they could do.

It really is incredible in the sense that it's a failure by every possible metric.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Mister Adequate posted:

Reminder that Atlas Shrugged The Movie was so shatteringly successful that they had to resort to Kickstarters and stuff to fund the sequels because the market had such an intense demand for more.

Given how the cast keeps getting more and more obscure and low-rent, I anticipate the final installment will be mostly performed by sock puppets.

TheArmorOfContempt
Nov 29, 2012

Did I ever tell you my favorite color was blue?

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Given how the cast keeps getting more and more obscure and low-rent, I anticipate the final installment will be mostly performed by sock puppets.

Nicolas Cage as Jon Galt.

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

Uroboros posted:

Everyone is also going to be playing Smash Bros...really impossible to resist. I just wanted to relate my Objectivism related story. I don't really even think my biggest beef with Objectivism is the ideology itself, but more how it seems to infect some of the most intelligent individuals I have met. I don't understand how such level-headed people embrace this. They are not selfish individuals by any stretch, which makes it all the more strange to hear them salivate over it, which makes me wonder what is really going on. Is there just a core of egomania in them that I am missing, or is it purely the desire to be independent?

The world is kinda hosed and really unfair, a libertarian objectivism is a way to reconcile the fact that it is without admitting that you might be the one getting the longer end of the stick. America is infused with the idea of the underdog being the good guy, so admitting you are part of the group stomping down, even without ever really meaning to be, is not something that a lot of people reconcile with.

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?
How the gently caress did you people even watch that garbage?

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Disinterested posted:

How the gently caress did you people even watch that garbage?

Haven't, actually. I'm going off the trailers, news I've heard, and logical deductions from established first principles (ie: Ayn Rand is garbage).

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Haven't, actually. I'm going off the trailers, news I've heard, and logical deductions from established first principles (ie: Ayn Rand is garbage).

P.. praxeology!

Also

isildur
May 31, 2000

BattleDroids: Flashpoint OH NO! Dekker! IS DOWN! THIS IS Glitch! Taking Command! THIS IS Glich! Taking command! OH NO! Glitch! IS DOWN! THIS IS Medusa! Taking command! THIS IS Medusa! Taking command! OH NO! Medusa IS DOWN!

Soon to be part of the Battletech Universe canon.

Uroboros posted:

Is there just a core of egomania in them that I am missing, or is it purely the desire to be independent?
It feels good to have all the answers. Objectivism offers all the answers. You get to feel superior to all the plebs who think the world is complex and difficult and the human experience is confusing and bewildering. It's not! And you know that, and the logic that leads you to know that is ironclad and unassailable!

Really, though, it's all about its explanatory power. Just about anything can be explained or solved with a surprisingly simple answer. It's incredibly seductive to feel like you have access to all the answers. I expect it's the same way fundamentalists feel about their religions.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Given how the cast keeps getting more and more obscure and low-rent, I anticipate the final installment will be mostly performed by sock puppets.

I thought they had concluded it. I could have sworn the last of those films was made.

Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Feb 12, 2015

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Crowsbeak posted:

I thought they had concluded it. I could have worn the last of those films was made.

Really? I thought they didn't actually complete the story in part III, and so were going to try for one more or something?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Really? I thought they didn't actually complete the story in part III, and so were going to try for one more or something?

Yeah because part 3 is the speech.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
I would totally watch an Atlas Shrugged puppet show.

Rhjamiz
Oct 28, 2007

I always thought the best way to do an Atlas Shrugged trilogy would be Part 1 is everything leading up to the speech ending on a "This is John Galt speaking." cliffhanger. Then Part 2 is literally just the speech narrated over shots of people at radios and slow-mo destruction/disaster porn. Part 3 wraps the rest up. Make it a Syfy miniseries, bam. Done.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Rhjamiz posted:

I always thought the best way to do an Atlas Shrugged trilogy would be Part 1 is everything leading up to the speech ending on a "This is John Galt speaking." cliffhanger. Then Part 2 is literally just the speech narrated over shots of people at radios and slow-mo destruction/disaster porn. Part 3 wraps the rest up. Make it a Syfy miniseries, bam. Done.

The speech takes 198 minutes (3 hours, 18 minutes) to read aloud at a comfortable speaking speed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUa7s3xuqxI

Don't listen to it, just start it and skip around and notice how loving long that is.

Alien Arcana
Feb 14, 2012

You're related to soup, Admiral.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Really? I thought they didn't actually complete the story in part III, and so were going to try for one more or something?

Crowsbeak posted:

Yeah because part 3 is the speech.

Hahaha how huge is your book if you can't even fit it into a goddamn trilogy of movies.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001
See fishmech's post right above yours? It's really fuckin' long, and that's just the climactic speech by the mysterious savior figure.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

See fishmech's post right above yours? It's really fuckin' long, and that's just the climactic speech by the mysterious savior figure.

And it's legally required to be read in its entirety in any film adaptation of the book.

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

Nolanar posted:

And it's legally required to be read in its entirety in any film adaptation of the book.

Not that much different than the amount of time it takes to read a jrode post, really.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

One of the best things about the Atlas Shrugged movie (at least the first one anyway), was that when I saw the original trailer, it was impossible to tell who the bad guys were supposed to be.

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

Alien Arcana posted:

Hahaha how huge is your book if you can't even fit it into a goddamn trilogy of movies.

To be fair, they somehow made noted children's book The Hobbit into 9 hours of film. We're lucky that Hollywood doesn't see blockbuster potential in it, or the John Galt speech would be a trilogy on its own.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Mornacale posted:

To be fair, they somehow made noted children's book The Hobbit into 9 hours of film. We're lucky that Hollywood doesn't see blockbuster potential in it, or the John Galt speech would be a trilogy on its own.

That's the thing though, the Hobbit fits into two movies easily. Atlas Shrugged does. not. fit. into three.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Mr Interweb posted:

One of the best things about the Atlas Shrugged movie (at least the first one anyway), was that when I saw the original trailer, it was impossible to tell who the bad guys were supposed to be.

Well the "villains" of Atlus Shrugged are literally humanist philanthropists that wish only to devote their lives to helping the poor and downtrodden. If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about Ayn Rand I don't know what could.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Who What Now posted:

Well the "villains" of Atlus Shrugged are literally humanist philanthropists that wish only to devote their lives to helping the poor and downtrodden. If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about Ayn Rand I don't know what could.

Whoa whoa whoa, let's not get crazy, they don't even have that much nuance. Every villain in the book is only pretending to care about the poor because they're super jealous of the cool genius capitalists and only want to see them suffer out of pure spite.

The heroes also don't care about the poor of course, they're just upfront about it.

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?
Most of this poo poo happened because Ayn Rand took Nietzsche hella literally.

Objectivism is basically Pathos Of Distance.txt.

young posty
Feb 11, 2015

by Lowtax
"I like to think of fire held in a man's hand. Fire, a dangerous force, tamed at his fingertips. I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking. I wonder what great things have come from such hours. When a man thinks, there is a spot of fire alive in his mind--and it is proper that he should have the burning point of a cigarette as his one expression.” - a bitch who got lung cancer, lmao

Political Whores
Feb 13, 2012

I found another "nuanced" opinion:

quote:

"My only question there is, post-apocalypse, are you gonna be a gold guy or a Bitcoin guy?" asked Arrington.

"I'm sort of an outlier on the Bitcoin thing," said [possible Republican Presidential nominee Rand] Paul. "I've been fascinated by the concept of it, but I never would have purchased it myself. I'm just a little bit skeptical. I remember reading an article by Marc Andreessen—obviously, I respect him, he's a smart guy, and he's made more money than I have. He wrote about Bitcoin, and the thing that fascinated me about what he wrote was that, if you imagine something like Wal-Mart, that's got a 4 percent profit margin, and they're laying 2 or 3 points to Mastercards, that there are ways to eliminate the credit card company through Bitcoin."

Paul was referring to a few arguments that Andreessen, whose Bitcoin views verge on utopian, had been making since 2013.

"This is just me," said Paul. "I have a biology degree. With Bitcoin my concern always was whether or not something has real value. I could imagine a kind of coin that was exchangeable. This gets back to the whole idea of whether money has to be exchangeable for something to have value. What if Bitcoin or Wal-Coin was exchangeable for Wal-Mart stock? What if Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Kroger and maybe 20 retailers got together and issued a coin to deal against a basket of stocks? I think that might be something I'd be interested in investigating. If they do it with a goal of—I hope Visa and Mastercard are not listening—eliminating the credit card companies from the equation—what if Wal-Mart's doubling their profits from 4 percent to something like 8 percent?"

TheArmorOfContempt
Nov 29, 2012

Did I ever tell you my favorite color was blue?
I wouldn't use gold or bitcoin for the Post-Apoc, because I am not a loving idiot...god drat I hate gold-buggers so much.

Chwoka
Jan 27, 2008

I'm Abed, and I never watch TV.

How the gently caress would you use bitcoin in a post-apocalyptic situation? Are the power plants and the internet both still working?

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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Chwoka posted:

How the gently caress would you use bitcoin in a post-apocalyptic situation? Are the power plants and the internet both still working?

Solar panels for laptops, and CubeSats.

No, seriously. That is the plan actual buttlords have floated, I'm not making it up.

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