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Denim finally arrived on my 925 last night (o2 uk). This is the first time I've been able to use Cortana, which was announced for the uk in July 2014. At this rate, Windows 10 - which will no doubt be a horrible crippled half-arsed release (if they don't declare my phone too old despite what they've said so far) - I should get some time late 2016.
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Feb 12, 2015 15:36
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Just a quick little Awful Beta update for this thread, in case anyone misses it. For anyone new who signed up, once the build gets processed, you should be able to download it via the link on my project page.
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Feb 12, 2015 16:23
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Drastic Actions posted:Just a quick little Awful Beta update for this thread, in case anyone misses it. For anyone new who signed up, once the build gets processed, you should be able to download it via the link on my project page.
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Feb 12, 2015 18:55
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xylo posted:Just tried but still says no permission to download. Can you edit when it's processed? Nope, you have to push a new release with a list of users. I don't have to update the actual build though, just push a new release. It should be up now though, It got approved a few hours ago. I'll check my list and make sure you're on it. EDIT: The email you gave me is there, but it needs to be the same one you use for downloading apps on the Windows Store. So if that's different, then that's what you're getting permission errors I'm guessing. Drastic Actions fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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Feb 12, 2015 19:05
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Windows 10 preview now available! http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/12/8017935/windows-10-for-phones-download-preview Only for Lumia 630, Lumia 635, Lumia 636, Lumia 638, Lumia 730, and Lumia 830...
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Feb 12, 2015 19:07
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CalvinandHobbes posted:Windows 10 preview now available! http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/12/8017935/windows-10-for-phones-download-preview They are loving with people now as last then a week ago they said that the Lumia 635 wasn't going to get Windows 10 at all.
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Feb 12, 2015 19:19
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sbaldrick posted:They are loving with people now as last then a week ago they said that the Lumia 635 wasn't going to get Windows 10 at all. I don't believe they said that, they said the low 512mb phones would not get all new Windows 10 features.
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Feb 12, 2015 19:21
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CalvinandHobbes posted:Windows 10 preview now available! http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/12/8017935/windows-10-for-phones-download-preview On the one hand, I'm a little sad that I can't check it out right now on any phone I own... but since they are not going to release any SDK until at least Build, I don't really care. I would love to play around with it, for sure, but if I can't actually make any apps in it... ehh, I can wait.
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Feb 12, 2015 19:48
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CalvinandHobbes posted:Windows 10 preview now available! http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/12/8017935/windows-10-for-phones-download-preview This sums it up for me. 
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Deep breaths before the freakout starts. Other phone models coming. We just needed a small subset of devices to start in case something goes wrong and we need to vet the new partitioning code so the older 8.0 phones are good to go.sbaldrick posted:They are loving with people now as last then a week ago they said that the Lumia 635 wasn't going to get Windows 10 at all. xylo fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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Feb 12, 2015 20:02
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xylo posted:Deep breaths before the freakout starts. Other phone models coming. We just needed a small subset of devices to start in case something goes wrong and we need to vet the new partitioning code so the older 8.0 phones are good to go. Will Windows 10 be made available for the HTC 8X?
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Feb 12, 2015 20:14
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Stop hogging the update servers jerks, I'm trying to update my phone. 
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xylo posted:Deep breaths before the freakout starts. Other phone models coming. We just needed a small subset of devices to start in case something goes wrong and we need to vet the new partitioning code so the older 8.0 phones are good to go. I know, but it's honestly better to say Microsoft was just loving with people and surprise, we can make it work on super low-end hardware. Take that Apple and Google.
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Feb 12, 2015 20:29
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Also probably worth noting is that this is very much still a beta version, not just a way to sidestep carrier releases like the dev preview program. You probably don't want to day-one install this on your primary device.
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Feb 12, 2015 20:38
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Will Windows 10 be made available for the HTC 8X?
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xylo posted:Deep breaths before the freakout starts. Other phone models coming. We just needed a small subset of devices to start in case something goes wrong and we need to vet the new partitioning code so the older 8.0 phones are good to go. I don't know weather to be sad or happy to see the Windows Phone community going off just as half cocked as the Apple or Android lot.
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Foxtrot_13 posted:I don't know weather to be sad or happy to see the Windows Phone community going off just as half cocked as the Apple or Android lot.
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Feb 12, 2015 22:03
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xylo posted:You know I can't answer that. Ask Gabe. Gabe? On another note, is there any hope of Windows 10 being ready for phone by by late summer/early autumn? Surely it would need to RTM by July or August in order to be ready to ship on devices out around October/November?
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^^^ I think it's this Gabe I asked Gabe about if it's possible to get a preview of API changes before Build, but I have a feeling that any response would be "Wait for Build". Which is okay (it's only a few months away). But I just really want to understand what kind of UI changes are going to happen (Ex. Are we getting a supported Hamburger menu), and screwing around with exposed API calls only goes so far. It's not that big a deal though if that doesn't happen. I get that it's evolving, and making promises like that this early is probably not the best idea. But a hint would be nice  .
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Other than making my poor 635 feel like a pop tart fresh out of the toaster, I'm not seeing a ton different, I'm assuming more of the changes will come later. Maps is back to being the maps app right, and here maps will eventually fade away?
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Feb 12, 2015 22:27
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Some show and tell *flips asymmetric feather-like hair* http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/02/12/announcing-the-first-build-of-windows-10-technical-preview-for-phones-2/
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Factor Mystic posted:Here's my perspective. a) Group texting sucks b) I don't have mms c) shared calendars & pictures & text in one place. Room pictures already lost captions in the 8.0 => 8.1 downgrade, and now the feature is probably going to be dropped entirely since nobody wants to talk about it. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-faq-right-for-me-phone?ocid=tp2_site_faq_down&woldogcb=0 Here is some talking about it. quote:The Rooms feature is not available in the preview. You'll still be able to get to your photo albums, calendars, and notes, either on the web or by using other apps on your phone. You won't be able to see your chat history or send or receive any new chats. If you have important info in your Rooms chats that you want to keep, save a copy to a different device before updating your phone to Technical Preview. For more info, take a look at the Rooms FAQ.
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From the short preview videos I've seen it looks like 10 will be a somewhat mixed bag. There's definitely some great, elegant new features that make a lot of sense (everything in notifications, getting the settings menu a little bit more in order), but for every interesting new feature, there seems to be a head-scratching change that doesn't bring anything to the platform and just chips away further at the WP aesthetic. It looks like they aren't even using Segoe as the font of choice in the settings menu, and why is it all of a sudden a white background in the nested settings? Why did the dialer need to change, and go away (again) from the carousel? Why put in new "proper" backgrounds but eliminate the ones from 8.1? It just seems like another case where for every new and exciting feature, there will be another thing I will miss. Aside from the start screen itself, the GUI is starting to slowly mutate into Google, both in its general aesthetic and its lack of consistency. Also, app loading still seems to be a little bit slow- I hope that'll get optimized and be a little better on whatever flagships are coming out. I'm getting so jealous of the buttery smoothness of iOS- something I never used to complain about with WP. http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/12/8017935/windows-10-for-phones-download-preview Ok e-mail (are we calling it Outlook?) looks fantastic. I'm not crazy about the calendar (bot for people who actually have busy lives it seems like a definite improvement), but it will be interesting to see what the Accompli acquisition brings to the table there. Also that Xbox Music interface looks really great. There's a bunch to look forward to here. Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Feb 13, 2015 |
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Feb 13, 2015 00:43
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Definitely doesn't look like it's worth installing yet.
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Jewmanji posted:From the short preview videos I've seen it looks like 10 will be a somewhat mixed bag. There's definitely some great, elegant new features that make a lot of sense (everything in notifications, getting the settings menu a little bit more in order), but for every interesting new feature, there seems to be a head-scratching change that doesn't bring anything to the platform and just chips away further at the WP aesthetic. It looks like they aren't even using Segoe as the font of choice in the settings menu, and why is it all of a sudden a white background in the nested settings? Why did the dialer need to change, and go away (again) from the carousel? Why put in new "proper" backgrounds but eliminate the ones from 8.1? It just seems like another case where for every new and exciting feature, there will be another thing I will miss. Aside from the start screen itself, the GUI is starting to slowly mutate into Google, both in its general aesthetic and its lack of consistency. I'm just going to leave this here quote:This is the earliest publicly available preview we’ve ever done for Windows on phones. This preview is still very much under development and you’re going to see some rough edges. We’re sharing it with you so you can be with us at every step, and provide your feedback to help make this the best release ever—because it’s the one made for you. You will encounter bugs. You will see experiences that are clearly just not done yet, and UX that lacks polish at this point. DON’T WORRY! It will improve as we go and new features, stability and performance improvements, and more polished UX will come at each step.
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Alpha build to satiate the internet mob. There are bugs. Many, many bugs. A lot of poo poo is broken, but its released you angry impatient assholes. Proceed with extreme caution. This is not even a consumer preview. Perfection is a long time out.
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xylo posted:I'm just going to leave this here Ok ok I'm only complaining because I love the platform so much  To reiterate, some of what's shown in those (admittedly) brief videos looks really exciting- the interface they've created for comprehensive editing options in Word looks fantastic, and will probably translate to some other applications cleverly.
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Jewmanji posted:Ok ok I'm only complaining because I love the platform so much
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xylo posted:People expectations for what early pre beta builds are going to be like are loving completely insane at times. (Emphasis mine) No one understands how long it takes to make software correctly. No one, not even the engineers that will have to put their own blood sweat and tears into it.
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Stick100 posted:(Emphasis mine)
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I hope shape writing gets enabled for the Danish language. It's something I think I'll really miss coming from Android.
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Mr Funkface posted:Some show and tell *flips asymmetric feather-like hair* I love the comments in this blog. Two things: a) people don't know what an early developer preview is (hint, poo poo be buggy and not all features implemented) and b) some people missed the bit where they explained why high end devices won't be getting it for now so of course they are very unhappy and letting big bad microsoft know about it! Oh Internet, never change! 
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The Windows Phone developer dashboard was updated with additional analytics and reporting features. On the one hand, it's really fast now; I'm getting download counts seemingly as they happen, or close to it. This is a huge improvement over the usual two day delay in what the download count was. But now they removed information from the exported report that I found really useful. Before I would get the app version, the Country/Region of the user, the language they use, the locale, age range, gender (if specified), OS version (Although not specific point build numbers, so 8.0 or 8.1, but not if they are on the preview program), Phone Manufacturer, and Mobile Operator. Now I just get the Age range, gender, "Market" (which I'm guessing is Locale), Download count and OS version. This kinda sucks, because before I could get a better feel for who was downloading it. For example, with my PSN app, I had 300 people in the US market download it this week. But if you look at those users, around 50 of them had "China Mobile" as a carrier. Which most likely means they switched the region on their phone. Likewise, I had 10 people in the Japanese region download it, but only one of them was actually on a Japanese carrier (NTT Docomo), the rest were in China. It's useful to really know who is getting the app, in case I actually want to translate it into other languages beyond English and Japanese, but now I have much more generic data. Oh well
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This is new and the nicest way a phone has told me my charging cable in my car isn't the greatest.  
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Drastic Actions posted:Now I just get the Age range, gender, "Market" (which I'm guessing is Locale), Download count and OS version. This kinda sucks, because before I could get a better feel for who was downloading it... [e.g. carrier] It's useful to really know who is getting the app I wonder if instead it'd be more useful to know who is *using* the app? and whether adding AppInsights would help there and also gather more information? It seems that Microsoft's pushing AppInsights pretty heavily.
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How much has been said so far about the potential "continuum"-like features between WP10 and W10? Will it basically be tab syncing in IE/Spartan and Skype stuff?Happy_Misanthrope posted:It's stupid to bitch about the horrible UI at this point, after all remember how bad the Windows 8 preview looked compared to the fin- What must it be like to be so intimately familiar with something that causes you so much aggravation? Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Feb 14, 2015 |
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Charles Martel posted:This is new and the nicest way a phone has told me my charging cable in my car isn't the greatest. I had a 1amp charger and it was fine with all my old Symbian phones. My 808 would last two hours doing GPS without a charger. I doubt my 925 would last 30 minutes.
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