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prefect posted:orlando's 100 feet above sea level. are the oceans coming up that much? the city won't drown, it will die of thirst. much of florida's land is water-permeable stone. fresh water on top, salt water down below. you get hosed from both ends: as you pump fresh water out of lakes and aquifers, the freshwater pressure decreases, ancient saltwater rises more easily and previously-fresh sources turn brackish. as the sea level rises, it rises underground, too. so salt water intrusion becomes more likely even if you don't over-use the local fresh water sources. this will happen to orlando later than it happens in south florida, but since population and sea level both drive the problem, it seems pretty inevitable. especially if south florida's population starts migrating north. Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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Disney (Magic Kingdom at least) is already raised on top of an elaborate system of tunnels. they're surrounded by straight swamp though so good luck getting there.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the city won't drown, it will die of thirst. my fav part is how hard the state government is ignoring all of this so much so that people like the miami mayor want to break away
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ultramiraculous posted:they're hosed one way or the other regardless. even without sea level changes, they're basically migrating inland. they've literally had to dredge up sand to make the beaches exist again in some areas (which also hosed up some sandbars that were protecting said beaches from erosion in the first place, sooooooo) the thing is i really can't find a reason for me to care beyond the ecological damage being done trying to fight the inevitable. all the people i know that vacation regularly in the outer banks were insufferable to be around, and the people who own houses there are somehow even worse.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:my fav part is how hard the state government is ignoring all of this Hey now, wait a minute, we didn't get to this point in society by taking into account the consequences of our actions!
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Shifty Pony posted:the thing is i really can't find a reason for me to care beyond the ecological damage being done trying to fight the inevitable. all the people i know that vacation regularly in the outer banks were insufferable to be around, and the people who own houses there are somehow even worse. i'm not sure anyone really cares about ecological damage, but lots of people are going to care the next time the state has to empty its highway fund to rebuild critical transport links in the outer banks or try to bail out uninsurable homeowners or confront flagging tourism due to problems with facilities literally built on sand
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Shifty Pony posted:the thing is i really can't find a reason for me to care beyond the ecological damage being done trying to fight the inevitable. all the people i know that vacation regularly in the outer banks were insufferable to be around, and the people who own houses there are somehow even worse. yeah, but it's not like those people will die, they'll just go bring their brand of joy to another place you might care about more
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prefect posted:orlando's 100 feet above sea level. are the oceans coming up that much? oh i didn't realize that. still need water though. but disneyworld's pretty big, they can probably find the space for a nuclear reactor and a desalinization plant
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:oh i didn't realize that. they have blanket permission from the state to build whatever the hell they want, including a nuclear reactor if they really want one
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:so much so that people like the miami mayor want to break away to what end? so they could be the only u.s. state that's completely underwater? there ain't nothin' in heaven or earth that'll save miami
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:oh i didn't realize that. south florida already has a nuclear plant endangered by hurricane risk and sea level rise a desalinization plant alone will cost more than a nuclear plant. the most recent megaproject in california cost over a billion dollars to supply 110,000 people (so, 40,000-ish households)
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graph posted:has richard moved the servers to somewhere that is above sealevel dunno maybe if he manages to keep a competent employee around ahahahah Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i still remember that running commentary from the lone guy left at the datacenter, talking about how the support guys for the building generator were coaching him on how to run the generator continuously, about what the streets looked like. it's still up if anyone wants to relive the magic http://interdictor.livejournal.com/2005/08/27/ quote:Hmm. This could actually be a nasty storm. lol
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infernal machines posted:to what end? so they could be the only u.s. state that's completely underwater?
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Shifty Pony posted:the thing is i really can't find a reason for me to care beyond the ecological damage being done trying to fight the inevitable. all the people i know that vacation regularly in the outer banks were insufferable to be around, and the people who own houses there are somehow even worse. i 100% agree with this assessment. i wouldn't care if not for the lengths people are going to protect "mah beachhouse" on what is basically a glorified sandbar.
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:God will save the south, just you wait! rainbows are god's way of saying that he's done with water
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Subjunctive posted:yeah, but it's not like those people will die, they'll just go bring their brand of joy to another place you might care about more trust that there are many other places in north carolina where they'll blend right in
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ultramiraculous posted:trust that there are many other places in north carolina where they'll blend right in mom lived in Raleigh for a while, I hear ya
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ADINSX posted:Lets try to at least negotiate with the ocean and see if they'll take Florida instead. 'you can take louisiana, but you gotta take florida too' * ocean levels recede to ice age levels*
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rolling stone had a p good article on just how spectacularly miami and florida are hosed: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-the-city-of-miami-is-doomed-to-drown-20130620
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Cardboard Box A posted:http://www.wired.com/2015/02/tech-companies-and-vaccines/ quote:Of 12 day care facilities affiliated with tech companies, six—that’s half—have below-average vaccination rates, according to the state’s data.
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I don't think that if you took a random sampling of daycare facilities, you'd get half below the average. My sense of the distribution is you'd probably get something like 9/12 or 10/12 at or slightly above average, and 2-3/12 with dramatically low rates.
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oh ya and the article was actually talking about statewide averages and being below the herd immunity level, it was just a funny way to phrase it
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Lamont Cranston posted:what are the little red slivers in the top left, highways? those are connecting bits of territory to various tiny chunks of the city, usually small developments that managed to get annexed
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FMguru posted:rolling stone had a p good article on just how spectacularly miami and florida are hosed: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-the-city-of-miami-is-doomed-to-drown-20130620 why does this fucker keep calling nuclear power plants "nukes" nuclear power plants are not bombs and they cannot explode any more than water can catch on fire, they have to kill you in entirely different ways
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nuclear power plants can explode just fine*, it's just not a nuclear detonation *steam pressure, hydrogen buildup, etc.
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Wulfolme posted:why does this fucker keep calling nuclear power plants "nukes" people will buy laundry balls that are supposed to "shrink water molecule clusters" and make their clothes cleaner; normal people do not see any difference between a nuclear bomb and a nuclear power plant
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Wulfolme posted:why does this fucker keep calling nuclear power plants "nukes" it's like he has an agenda, or something
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nuclear plants have a LOT of chemicals in them! they're unsafe
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as a former floridian, this all makes me even happier i left that shithole of a state
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Citizen Tayne posted:If you are in the USA and you do not live in New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles, you are in a cultural backwater. you forgot new orleans, miami, and neo new mexico (south Texas)
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Elder Postsman posted:that's a done deal already, just not gonna be implemented for a little while yet i have that magazine
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ultramiraculous posted:they're hosed one way or the other regardless. even without sea level changes, they're basically migrating inland. they've literally had to dredge up sand to make the beaches exist again in some areas (which also hosed up some sandbars that were protecting said beaches from erosion in the first place, sooooooo) whoops!!!
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Endless Mike posted:as a former floridian, this all makes me even happier i left that shithole of a state I love my family and I have some happy memories there, but overall, Miami is a giant toilet and most people who live there are hot street trash with no value. the culture shock of living in a city where everyone isn't yelling all the time and isn't preposterously selfish was hard for me.
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Rexicon1 posted:and isn't preposterously selfish people here are super protective of 'their part' fo the sidewalk here and i have to play chicken 20 times a day. its kinda lovely and dont get me started about people not holding doors
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Jonny 290 posted:people here are super protective of 'their part' fo the sidewalk here and i have to play chicken 20 times a day. its kinda lovely think like a 'trep just walk through them disrupt their paths with a quick shoulder check
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Uber's panic button is coming to the United States
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Rexicon1 posted:I love my family and I have some happy memories there, but overall, Miami is a giant toilet and most people who live there are hot street trash with no value. the culture shock of living in a city where everyone isn't yelling all the time and isn't preposterously selfish was hard for me. my girlfriend is from Miami and incredibly paranoid about crime in the small city we live in. I thought she was crazy and then I went to Miami and now it totally makes sense.
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Jonny 290 posted:and dont get me started about people not holding doors i enjoy weirding people out here by holding doors and calling them sir and miss and ma'am but one of my bosses had to tell me not to do that in business correspondence since it was "way way too formal" to refer to someone i had never met as Mr. Firstname in an email
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treppin' ain't easy but it's necessary now i'm funding ventures like tom chases jerry
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Luigi Thirty posted:treppin' ain't easy but it's necessary
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