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Dear lord, please let no-one ever suggest again that a book or book series could be made into an anime. Thank you and amen.
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Having just watched all of that wheel of time pilot I can't believe it is anything other than something to allow Universal to hold onto the rights.
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Feb 10, 2015 16:09
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Hedrigall posted:Dear lord, please let no-one ever suggest again that a book or book series could be made into an anime. Thank you and amen. What you mean the glorious Miyazaki classic "Tales of Earthsea" isn't the greatest adaptation you've ever seen?
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Feb 10, 2015 16:30
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Megazver posted:It was Jonathan Ross. He's a British talk show guy. You're thinking of Peter Serafinowicz who I'm pretty sure had nothing to do with it. Ah, apparently I got my british dudes mixed up. Sorry bout that.
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Feb 10, 2015 16:49
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Arcsquad12 posted:What you mean the glorious Miyazaki classic "Tales of Earthsea" isn't the greatest adaptation you've ever seen? That was Miyazaki's son rather than Hayao Miyazaki himself. The elder Miyazaki had been a huge fan of Earthsea since forever and had tried before to get Le Guin to allow him to do an adaptation but she had very little faith in TV or movie adaptations (and not without reason obviously) but she just didn't know who he was, other than 'some Japanese dude wanting to make a cartoon?' and then when she found out many years later, Miyazaki trusted his son to do this thing he loved dearly and his son was looking forward to his first real go at animation directing and managed to crash and burn completely. So it's a tragedy all around. Meanwhile I really enjoyed Howl's Moving Castle despite the adaptation being substantially different from the novel. Also recently I finished the the third League of Peoples novel by James Alan Gardner. Vigilant is a little SFNal mystery set on a world with some charmingly quirky aliens against a backdrop of extreme and recent tragedy. Gardner's central conceit with the League of Peoples is that violence can't be carried between planets and this is enforced by near-godlike advanced civilizations, so all nefarious scheming has to either not involve violence or be contained to a single planet. I am not sure it always works, but the voices he gives his characters are varied and the text itself is often darkly funny.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:01
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Hedrigall posted:Dear lord, please let no-one ever suggest again that a book or book series could be made into an anime. Thank you and amen. Wheel of Time is basically an anime already, right down to emo protagonist with three love interests, one blonde, one redhead, and one boyish brunette.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:09
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Hedrigall posted:Dear lord, please let no-one ever suggest again that a book or book series could be made into an anime. Thank you and amen. "Watashi wa Borudemootu-sama desu." I have no idea how/if that can be anagrammed.
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Feb 10, 2015 17:18
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I just couldn't take her seriously as an author (or someone who I'd want to give money to in any way) after she went mental about some award show where she thought the host was going to make fun of her being fat. Huh. Hadn't heard about that. Megazver posted:And yeah it was dumb and what I've read of the first InCryptid novel was terrible, sorry. How so, if you don't mind explaining?
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Feb 10, 2015 19:36
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Szmitten posted:"Watashi wa Borudemootu-sama desu." They'd call it WataBoru and be done with it.
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Feb 10, 2015 20:30
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Szmitten posted:"Watashi wa Borudemootu-sama desu." Apparently, they pretty much said "gently caress it" and put the anagram in English. http://www.cjvlang.com/Hpotter/wordplay/riddle.html
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Feb 10, 2015 21:55
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corn in the bible posted:I assume they were planning on airing it later but someone noticed their contract runs out tomorrow and they had to rush it to maintain the tv rights Couldn't have happened to a better fan base.
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Feb 10, 2015 21:59
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Wheel of Time is basically an anime already, right down to emo protagonist with three love interests, one blonde, one redhead, and one boyish brunette. Well the costs of animation would be really really low since they could just splice in the same scene of smoothing out a skirt, tugging on a braid, etc about 40x an episode.
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Feb 10, 2015 21:59
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That is not how I would have said Aes Sedai lovely TV show linguists.
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Feb 10, 2015 22:00
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funakupo posted:Well the costs of animation would be really really low since they could just splice in the same scenes from the first three seasons into the other ten without anyone noticing. Fixed for wheel of time accuracy.
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Feb 10, 2015 22:12
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Hedrigall posted:Apparently, they pretty much said "gently caress it" and put the anagram in English. http://www.cjvlang.com/Hpotter/wordplay/riddle.html I haven't read Potter but this anagram translation business is fascinating, and there's a whole list of various translations!
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Feb 10, 2015 22:39
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Onean posted:How so, if you don't mind explaining? From the very loving start: She's from a ancient monster-fighting dynasty, but works as a waitress because Okay, fine, this is just what makes it cliche girly UF bullshit. You might actually enjoy cliche girly UF bullshit. I occasionally enjoy cliche bullshit aimed at my demographic. Now here's why these books are a piece of poo poo: So the first chapter is about her hunting this serial killer ghoul, yeah? He's killed and eaten fifteen girls so far, no biggie. The police evidently haven't heard about this yet, because no one cares about fifteen white girls rich enough to go clubbing disappearing in a short period of time, but she's onto it through her... waitress network? Okay, moving on. So she's staking him out by, y'know, going to random clubs night after night with her vamp bestie, staring at random dudes and hoping he'll be her cannibal serial killer. Frankly, I am surprised the death count is at mere fifteen victims. I wonder how long that list was when she embarked on her club offensive. So anyway, she first tries the hot and mysterious guy who's hot and mysterious AND SPARKS FLY BUT THINGS ARE COMPLICATED but he's not it, but then she does notice a guy leaving with a girl and that's some ghoul poo poo right there, yo. So yeah, she follows them, saves the girl, beats up the ghoul with, sigh, ballet batman skills... then tells him to leave town and he, a ghoul, ever eats someone again she'll totally hunt him down and put him down. As long as he does it in the city she lives in (airfare is tough on a waitress paycheck, okay?) and just goes to the clubs for the victims again. Ten, fifteen victims more tops and she'll end this motherfucker. Because she's Whatsherface Ballet-Batman, Protector of This City and Monsterkind, Which Is Misunderstood, As Demonstrated By This Chapter. *strikes heroic pose* That's just the first chapter's worth of bullshit. The author of this book has been been nominated for the last four Best Novel Hugos in a row. poo poo, Larry Correia is twat, but the circlejerk that Hugos have turned to almost makes me wish his troll vote brigading works. PS The mice were alright, I guess.
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Feb 10, 2015 22:41
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It *could* be done as an anime. If any doorstop fantasy/sci-fi novels are to be adapted into anime it should be Hamilton's Night's Dawn trilogy.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:20
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systran posted:I just read Proxima by Stephen Baxter. It had one of the worst endings I've ever read in a book. The book started okay and became worse and worse as it went on, but the ending brought the whole book down several levels. I also just finished this and have mixed feelings on it. It's hard to decide whether I liked it or not as some parts were pretty cool and other parts were just awful or didn't make any sense at all. I think I could basically narrow it down to, anything involving the hatch was loving stupid. It could have been a decent book if he had just not introduced the hatches and stuck with the Kernals and the rest of the story. I enjoyed the parts about colonizing and I enjoyed the politics between the UN and China but I'm not sure why he needed to make it a story about alternate realities. The hatches made no sense at all. Why did the hatch on Mercury when used the first time make Penny appear and become apart of a new timeline with only Stef remembering the old one and then for some reason it decided to become a portal to Per Ardua? And why was Angelia even a character? I thought her chapters were pretty cool and then she was just basically dropped and only heard from again for a "one liner" of no importance at the end. Also, what was the point of Dexter Cole? The whole book they tease that he was the first to go there and that he may still be around, then we find out that "Sorry he died on the cold side of the planet and he was a baby eater.... that is all." Yuri and the gang appearing in an alternate reality where Romans are a space faring civilization was also a pretty dumb ending. It was seriously so ridiculous that I've picked up the next book "Ultima" to see how it turns out. I'm about 50 pages in and the Romans fly around in wood (yes wood) interstellar spaceships using the kernals. They seriously fly them with levers and pulleys..... I may just have to keep reading to see where it goes. On second thought, I didn't much like this book at all.
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Wow, okay. I'm with you on the opening part, just not as...violently, I suppose? It's not a good opening, though not as bad as you make it out to be. Her partner isn't a vampire (not even close) and the first guy she dances with isn't from the organization you mention either, in fact I'm pretty sure he never comes up again. There is a perfectly reasonable reason why she's on her own working as a waitress, and I think you dumped the book right before you got to it. And it's not ballet (ballroom dancing, actually) that makes her fight the way she does, it's the training-to-fight-since-6-years-old (edit: which everybody in her family has to do) that does that. I agree the ghoul bit could have been handled much better, though. I thought it more than made up for the problems at the start as it went along, and the second and third books were much better. They're definitely not deep, thought provoking, top of the line fiction, but I still had a lot of fun reading them and that's what I look for in most books, unless I'm specifically looking for something deeper. All that said, there's absolutely something to be said for personal preference, and apparently this is definitely not up your alley. Onean fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Feb 10, 2015 |
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Feb 10, 2015 23:42
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I read the wiki article on vox day for the hell of it and it was very amusing. I have to say a christian who refers to himself as the voice of god makes me raise an eyebrow but it does fit with his general public persona (a giant shithead)
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Feb 11, 2015 14:48
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ravenkult posted:Anything similar to the Walking Dead? Like, somewhat realistic zombie apocalypse. I pick up books that describe themselves as similar and they end up having robots or magic or some poo poo. The Girl with All the Gifts by M R Carey is in that vein, although they're more Last of Us zombies than traditional. No magic or super tech or anything like that though. The basic premise is that a group of people who work at a military lab are traveling across England trying to get back to London after the lab is overrun.
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Feb 11, 2015 15:59
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johnsonrod posted:I also just finished this and have mixed feelings on it. Haha, I can't believe you read the second one after that ending! quote:I'm about 50 pages in and the Romans fly around in wood (yes wood) interstellar spaceships using the kernals. They seriously fly them with levers and pulleys..... I may just have to keep reading to see where it goes. That is loving insane...so glad I didn't read it. I think the colonization of Per Ardua was the only redeeming thing. I agree, Angelia was a character for no reason, the twin split made no sense, and the ending was the loving worst. Basically the pacing of the whole thing was just off and terrible. The solar system getting fried at the end was dumb as well. I had an issue with the kernals; I didn't feel they were interesting at all. I'm getting very very tired of each sci-fi book's take on how to get around light speed barriers and how to do interstellar travel with some gimmick. Stumbling onto a miracle solution is usually boring no matter what, but the way Proxima gave nods to it "being too easy" and still hosed it up made it somehow even worse. The dumbest thing to me about this book was that he showed that it was possible to get to Proxima already without miracle alien poo poo, but then he added the alien poo poo in anyway. The hatch was definitely the worst offender.
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Feb 11, 2015 18:20
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General Battuta posted:Holy poo poo, yes it is. I was exactly like you - a lot of people don't like Fall, but it really worked for me. Then I read Endymion. It's the rare sequel capable of canceling out all your positive sentiments towards the antecedent by making it retroactively lovely. Don't read it. That and the organic Dyson sphere system. Don't read it.
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spaceship that accelerates so fast it crushes the crew into paste. They're reconstructed by cruciform symbiotes when they get to their destination. Congratulations, that's all the cool poo poo you will find in Endymion. 
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Hedrigall posted:Dear lord, please let no-one ever suggest again that a book or book series could be made into an anime. Thank you and amen. Honestly, an anime series is probably the only way Wheel of Time could ever be adapted to screen faithfully. It's way too drat long for a movie or movies, no question. This leaves a TV series or an animated show, and once again, the length comes in. By the time the series would be done filming, the 25 year olds who play 17 year olds would probably be 40 year olds playing 20 year olds, and the older characters would have had their actors die or retire, to say nothing of characters who disappear for books at a time. So, we have some sort of animated show left. Either American or Japanese would work, but American animated shows tend to be shorter and more serial, so anime's left. There's no reason it couldn't be American made, it's just when you think long drawn out animated series with way too many characters, you think something like Dragon Ball over Avatar TLA.
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I think you can adapt something faithfully without adapting it literally and completely. In fact, I would probably argue that the two are often contradictory. A move between mediums should probably involve major changes to ensure the narrative, themes and characterisation are effectively translated. The worst adaptations are highly literal ones that focus on replication of minutiae rather than the important stuff. I think I'd rather have an adaptation which aims to fix and improve on the original rather than slavishly imitate. Otherwise what's the point? And probably the best thing to start with is cutting down the series to the essentials and losing a lot of the cruft.
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Feb 12, 2015 01:37
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Virigoth posted:That is not how I would have said Aes Sedai lovely TV show linguists. I think that was Jordan's pronunciation, I've never heard it any other way.
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Feb 12, 2015 02:28
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Blamestorm posted:I think you can adapt something faithfully without adapting it literally and completely. In fact, I would probably argue that the two are often contradictory. A move between mediums should probably involve major changes to ensure the narrative, themes and characterisation are effectively translated. The worst adaptations are highly literal ones that focus on replication of minutiae rather than the important stuff. But then the script would just be blank pages 
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Feb 12, 2015 03:08
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People have been saying 'the only way to make an adaptation of X Series is as an animation' for everything, for years. Off the top of my head, it's never happend (apart from that Lord of the Rings movie). I don't think they're going to start now.
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Feb 12, 2015 16:27
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I think that was Jordan's pronunciation, I've never heard it any other way. Was it "Eyes Said I?" I hate it, but that was Jordan's. http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kwt=%27pronunciation%27
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Feb 12, 2015 16:34
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Junkenstein posted:People have been saying 'the only way to make an adaptation of X Series is as an animation' for everything, for years. Off the top of my head, it's never happend (apart from that Lord of the Rings movie). I don't think they're going to start now. And it has only been true for Snow Crash.
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Feb 12, 2015 19:17
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SquadronROE posted:And it has only been true for Snow Crash. And Neuromancer + sequels. Those books read like an 80's movie script.
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Slavvy posted:And Neuromancer + sequels. Those books read like an 80's movie script. I once read that Snow Crash was supposed to be a graphic novel. In that light the imagery in the book is much more interesting. On that note I have blown through 4 novels on this vacation. Memoirs Found In A Bathtub, Handmaid's Tale, and 2 Hornblower books. Got a couple at home but... Any recommendations for Cyberpunk? Read Neuromancer, Snow Crash, a bunch more Stephenson.. Not sure what else is out there that would be considered Cyberpunk.
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Feb 13, 2015 01:37
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SquadronROE posted:I once read that Snow Crash was supposed to be a graphic novel. In that light the imagery in the book is much more interesting. If you liked Neuromancer, I'd say it's worth reading the next two novels in the Sprawl trilogy -- Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive. Also Richar K. Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs trilogy is very good, and worth checking out -- start with Altered Carbon.
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Ian McDonald's River of Gods is great. Will McIntosh's Soft Apocalypse is a cool cyberpunk apocalypse novel.
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I finished The Half-Made World and liked it enough. I'm 60 pages into the sequel and not enjoying Harry Ransom's story. Should I stop reading, or does it get back to the stuff left open at the end of the first book, or The Gun and The Line in general?
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Feb 13, 2015 01:49
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SquadronROE posted:I once read that Snow Crash was supposed to be a graphic novel. In that light the imagery in the book is much more interesting. Bruce Bethke's HeadCrash, lots of Bruce Sterling and William Gibson qualifies, I guess Shadowrun novels if you get desperate?
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Slavvy posted:And Neuromancer + sequels. Those books read like an 80's movie script. They're still making a Neuromancer movie!  I'm pretty sure Vincenzo Natali of Cube, Cypher and Splice fame, is directing still. If you've seen Cypher, you will believe!  Cypher is a good cyberpunk/spy movie.
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A A 2 3 5 8 K posted:I finished The Half-Made World and liked it enough. I'm 60 pages into the sequel and not enjoying Harry Ransom's story. Should I stop reading, or does it get back to the stuff left open at the end of the first book, or The Gun and The Line in general?
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ulmont posted:Was it "Eyes Said I?" I hate it, but that was Jordan's. Yeah, that's what the show uses.
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SquadronROE posted:And it has only been true for Snow Crash. Watership Down.
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