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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i enjoy weirding people out here by holding doors and calling them sir and miss and ma'am what? since when? does he even say this for the initial contacts before you know a person well? hell, until i get to know someone i feel weird emailing them as mr or ms whatever because what if they have a doctorate i don't know about?
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Citizen Tayne posted:If you are in the USA you are in a cultural backwater. 
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Feb 13, 2015 00:44
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Sagebrush posted:what if they have a doctorate i don't know about? hahahahahahahahahahahah *deep breath* AHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
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ive gotten emails out of the loving blue from HS classmates that I never spoke to post grad with "It's Dr. XXXXXX now!"
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yea but you come from a culture of humblebragging through church luncheons / family christmas letters / elk clubs canada has much more of the british "oh, yes, well it's not really much to talk about, he's an astronaut now" way of handling it
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Feb 13, 2015 00:53
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Jonny 290 posted:ive gotten emails out of the loving blue from HS classmates that I never spoke to post grad with "It's Dr. XXXXXX now!" gently caress those people
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Sagebrush posted:what? since when? does he even say this for the initial contacts before you know a person well? yep sat me down in the conference room like i was in trouble or something it's really jarring to start business correspondence with Hi $Firstname but that's what they want and apparently what everyone uses that i've seen in civil honorifics are easy since there aren't really any docs so you just accrue a shitload of letters after your name and lord that over everyone else instead
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Sagebrush posted:what? since when? does he even say this for the initial contacts before you know a person well? linkedin thank god
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Feb 13, 2015 01:00
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what hosed up part of the world do you not address emails to people you havent met yet as Mr/Ms <LastName>
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Feb 13, 2015 01:06
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i hold doors all the time but i avoided the m'am/sir, thank god
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Feb 13, 2015 01:06
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my dad corrected like a 7 year old friend of mine once with "it's actualy DOCTOR xxxxxx" he is not a real doctor, just one with like a phd in philosophy or something
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Feb 13, 2015 01:13
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uncurable mlady posted:what hosed up part of the world do you not address emails to people you havent met yet as Mr/Ms <LastName> canada, for one. business communication is very informal in that particular fashion, unless it's a completely cold initial contact where you haven't been introduced by a colleague or other third party you just start with Firstname, or Hi Firstname, depending on how formal you want to be.
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Feb 13, 2015 01:15
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uncurable mlady posted:what hosed up part of the world do you not address emails to people you havent met yet as Mr/Ms <LastName> Hey, or, if you're feeling formal, Hello,
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Beast of Bourbon posted:my dad corrected like a 7 year old friend of mine once with "it's actualy DOCTOR xxxxxx" lol your dad is a dick
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Feb 13, 2015 01:21
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infernal machines posted:just start with Firstname, or Hi Firstname, depending on how formal you want to be
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Feb 13, 2015 01:31
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if it's someone you're not personally familiar with there's no reason to use their first name "mister james" would make me think whoever was writing it was an offshore recruiter
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same only african scammer
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infernal machines posted:canada, for one. canada seems rly laid back
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:Mr. Firstname in an email do you mean Mr Lastname, or do you really refer to people in the same way that an outsourced tech support drone would 
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qirex posted:if it's someone you're not personally familiar with there's no reason to use their first name kalstrams posted:same only african scammer thank you both
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i'm on the west coast. everybody opens their email with "hello [first]" maybe y'all elsewhere need to unclench a little
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uncurable mlady posted:canada seems rly laid back it sure is. the only people who address anyone as mr/mrs anything in writing are vendors.
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duTrieux. posted:i'm on the west coast. everybody opens their email with "hello [first]" I'm hella west coast [see what I did there] and if I'm actually familiar with someone I don't bother with a greeting just start the message that said it's always better to be super careful with email
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kalstrams posted:hahaha i've been working in toronto for like a decade now, unless you're selling something, applying for a job, or addressing a judge you don't bother with honourifics
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infernal machines posted:honourifics my jimmies!!!
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bobbilljim posted:do you mean Mr Lastname, or do you really refer to people in the same way that an outsourced tech support drone would that's standard southern ettiquette also the default conversational honorific for women is "miss" regardless of marital status, even in a business setting (correspondence still adheres to ms. tho) - mrs. is always impolite and if you're addressing a mayor in business correspondence the proper honorific is "honorable $firstname $lastname" which my boss also laughed about when i asked if that was a thing here Beast of Bourbon posted:he is not a real doctor, just one with like a phd in philosophy or something the ph in phd stands for philosophy
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qirex posted:I'm hella west coast [see what I did there] and if I'm actually familiar with someone I don't bother with a greeting just start the message norcal 
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:and if you're addressing a mayor in business correspondence the proper honorific is "honorable $firstname $lastname" which my boss also laughed about when i asked if that was a thing here in canada the proper address for a mayor is Your Worship
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Pinterest Mom posted:in canada the proper address for a mayor is Your Worship just like a surly han
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duTrieux. posted:norcal I don't actually say hella except on the internet, never really did since that was east bay/peninsula talk and I am a whitey marin kid
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Feb 13, 2015 01:51
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duTrieux. posted:i'm on the west coast. everybody opens their email with "hello [first]" they can't without some kind of chemical aid even then they're repressing so much bile they'd prolly just have tori style meltdowns
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Feb 13, 2015 01:51
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Pinterest Mom posted:in canada the proper address for a mayor is Your Worship in canada the proper address for a supreme court justice is Jolly Old 
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:that's standard southern ettiquette drat i guess they south really is as hosed up as they say
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qirex posted:I don't actually say hella except on the internet, never really did since that was east bay/peninsula talk and I am a whitey marin kid i've been here 3 years and i say hella all the drat time, i even say hecka when there are ladies present because i am polite
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syscall girl posted:they can't without some kind of chemical aid I've never had a meltdown.
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bobbilljim posted:drat i guess they south really is as hosed up as they say don't even get me started on debutante balls futurewife was made to do it and my god
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:don't even get me started on debutante balls tell us about the implied ownership of debutants by their fathers
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Sagebrush posted:in canada the proper address for a supreme court justice is Jolly Old lol
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bobbilljim posted:tell us about the implied ownership of debutants by their fathers at least debutante balls only imply it go a little farther into the woods and you get the purity balls that outright assert it
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bobbilljim posted:tell us about the implied ownership of debutants by their fathers and then there's dancing with every single creepy old dad
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