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I really wish we could tear up every freeway in the state and start over from scratch
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While we're at it, can we also tear up the VTA and rebuild it at something other than at grade? If it could get me to work in ~20 minutes instead of an hour, I wouldn't even have to drive.
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Feb 13, 2015 06:56
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While we're tearing up the freeways, we should go ahead and tear up the residential, business, and industrial infrastructure too, so it can all be laid out in much more useful and less stupidly wasteful ways. Oh and the water, power, and telecoms infrastructure too.
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Feb 13, 2015 07:00
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Declare independence, enact full communism, tear everything down and start anew
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Feb 13, 2015 07:07
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Leperflesh posted:While we're tearing up the freeways, we should go ahead and tear up the residential, business, and industrial infrastructure too, so it can all be laid out in much more useful and less stupidly wasteful ways. #TearDownCalifornia
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Feb 13, 2015 07:10
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Sydin posted:#TearDownCalifornia Like we need to do anything for that to happen. The ultimate in slacktivism. Do nothing, accomplish everything.
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Feb 13, 2015 07:12
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Before we tear everything down, I'd like to introduce a bill that makes it mandatory for Californians to refer to Highway and Freeways by the One True Pronoun of The. The 101. The 405. Bay Area resident are exempt because gently caress their backwards ways. In other news LA wants to change their school board and city reps election dates to coincide with National Presidential elections. This would cause.more people to turn out. It might also bloat the gently caress out of the $$ necessary to compete in those races 
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Feb 13, 2015 07:13
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FilthyImp posted:Before we tear everything down, I'd like to introduce a bill that makes it mandatory for Californians to refer to Highway and Freeways by the One True Pronoun of The. I'd be okay with this. But can I still sometimes bring out my inner Chicago and say I-5, just for the glares all around?
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Feb 13, 2015 07:15
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Sydin posted:I'd be okay with this. I-ism is the acceptable alternative for transplants.
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Feb 13, 2015 07:20
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Sydin posted:4. On a similar note, almost every entrance either quickly merges into the lane left of it, or dumps you right into an exit only lane you have to quickly weave out of or you'll get carted right back off the freeway. My favorite is the entrance to 87 South off Charchot, where as soon as you get on you're immediately in an exit only lane and the exit is only a couple of hundred feet ahead. So you have to find space to merge left in ~3-5 seconds, or you're forced off. This is good freeway design! My favorite example of this is the Leland Ave/280 onramp. You have about 200 feet to get over not one, but two lanes because you're dumped onto I-280 right before the SB 17 exit ramp, which is two lanes. Then you have another 200 feet to get over another lane, because that next lane over is the exit for NB 880. Then you have another 200 feet to get over one more lane just for kicks because they have to make room for the lane that gets added when the partial cloverleaf onramp from NB 17 merges with 280. Honorable mention goes to full cloverleafs at non-freeway interchanges. Sometimes the civil engineers are nice enough to give you a separated roadway so you don't have to compete with freeway traffic (237/Lawrence and 101/Embarcadero Rd). And then there's cases like 85 and El Camino Real or the near-complete cloverleaf at Mathilda and 101, where you have people both merging on and merging off the freeway ALONG with those going at speed to get to the next intersection in the same 100 foot stretch of road. 
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Feb 13, 2015 07:21
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I just caught up with this thread and I'm so stressed out now. gently caress driving, gently caress drivers, gently caress freeways!
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Feb 13, 2015 07:34
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This morning on the 405 north, a little after the Mullholland exit, I noticed some California poppies in full bloom on the road side embankment, so that was nice.
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Feb 13, 2015 07:41
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This poo poo is the worst. I'm pretty sure there are two of them in a row on the 17N-85N interchange, too. The other big 17 freeway design horror is the fishhook, where 1N and 17S become one. If you are driving along the 1 in the left lane you go around a fairly sharp turn, which suddenly sharpens even more mid turn, and then are dumped out on the 17 with people going at speed, with literally zero merge time. The lanes just very suddenly are the same. It's a wonder there's not an accident there daily.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:My favorite example of this is the Leland Ave/280 onramp. Oh man, I've never had to merge on from there, but you're right. That's incredible. The whole 280/17/880 intersection is a total clusterfuck:  
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Feb 13, 2015 07:43
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Yeah designing your entire civilization around cars is kind of a bitch. Anyone who likes driving in California is out of their mind.
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VikingofRock posted:The other big 17 freeway design horror is the fishhook, where 1N and 17S become one. If you are driving along the 1 in the left lane you go around a fairly sharp turn, which suddenly sharpens even more mid turn, and then are dumped out on the 17 with people going at speed, with literally zero merge time. The lanes just very suddenly are the same. It's a wonder there's not an accident there daily. Highway 17 South to Highway 1 South is another nightmare because of the merging, but Highway 1 North to Highway 17 North somehow managed to be acceptable. I wish I had experienced the railroad that ran from Oakland to Santa Cruz before 1940. Just about every example of lane merging around here is a nightmare. Another amusing example is the westbound direction past the toll plaza onto the Bay Bridge, which is a mess of lanes that merge without warning, although somehow less dangerous than people reversing out of the toll both to enter a different toll both.
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Feb 13, 2015 08:14
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Sydin posted:At least LA drivers know how to dive properly without a preceding 10-15 seconds of indecision.
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Feb 13, 2015 08:27
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I used to accept a 15-30 minute longer commute in order to avoid driving in LA. Now I bike. gently caress driving in rush hour in LA FRINGE posted:This makes a huge difference. I have a friend who just learned how to drive and my advice to her was "No hesitation, they can smell your fear"
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Feb 13, 2015 08:34
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Zeitgueist posted:I used to accept a 15-30 minute longer commute in order to avoid driving in LA.
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Feb 13, 2015 09:04
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Zeitgueist posted:I used to accept a 15-30 minute longer commute in order to avoid driving in LA. Let's just start over. No more roads. Just cable car lines everywhere, or at least until Elon Musk gets enough funding to build his deathtube.
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Feb 13, 2015 09:05
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Let's just start over. gently caress the 101/405 exchange. And the 10.
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Feb 13, 2015 09:08
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Build one freeway but mostly force your sims to use mass transit.
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Feb 13, 2015 09:23
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The best interchange is where the 10, 5, 101, 60, and 710 come together in East LA.
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Bip Roberts posted:The best interchange is where the 10, 5, 101, 60, and 710 come together in East LA.
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Feb 13, 2015 09:52
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On the upside ... at least we're not truck drivers dealing with the port labor dispute. http://imgur.com/a/quS8p  
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Feb 13, 2015 10:13
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VikingofRock posted:This poo poo is the worst. I'm pretty sure there are two of them in a row on the 17N-85N interchange, too. The fishhook is a loving hilarious troll.
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Feb 13, 2015 10:57
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The whole 17 between SC and SJ is a moving deathtrap.
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My vote for least favorite intersection is to 101s. The exit from 880 has traffic from 101N merging in before the exiting traffic can leave, then it dumps you onto a lane on 101 that is exit only to 880N. The next lane over is also exit only to Oakland Road, so if you actually have to go south on 101, you're forced to merge through two lanes of traffic merging the other way. There are some beautiful roads though if you want to sightsee. One of my favorites is 25 that goes south from hollister. About this time of year, it's all beautiful green rolling hills dotted with wildflowers and seas of mustard.
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Ron Jeremy posted:My vote for least favorite intersection is to 101s. The exit from 880 has traffic from 101N merging in before the exiting traffic can leave, then it dumps you onto a lane on 101 that is exit only to 880N. The next lane over is also exit only to Oakland Road, so if you actually have to go south on 101, you're forced to merge through two lanes of traffic merging the other way. The road through Niles Canyon is pretty nice (from Niles/Mission Blvd in Fremont to 680), but holy hell is it a clusterfuck during rush hour since a lot of people think they can take this winding wilderness road to dodge 680's traffic.
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Feb 13, 2015 22:42
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My personal favorite intersection is the Rengstorff exit on 101 south. Not only does it have the same issue of "let's make a merge-on/merge-off lane that's only 100 feet long lol" that the Mathilda exit has, it has the added bonus that said lane has literally no reason to exist. There is an existing entrance to 101 south less than 1000 feet away!
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:This morning on the 405 north, a little after the Mullholland exit, I noticed some California poppies in full bloom on the road side embankment, so that was nice. I've got a bunch of negative poo poo to say about the driving since I moved here, but really... Today is a nice loving day. Holy poo poo. What were we talking about?
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:My personal favorite intersection is the Rengstorff exit on 101 south. I totally forgot about that bizarre ramp. The best part about that ramp is that you can also turn right on to 101 if you are headed north past the In-N-Out, but otherwise can cross the onramp traffic to turn left onto Charleston, so you get this weird half-SPUI monstrosity that's controlled by a single stop sign. Also it's a little bit better than Mathilda, and more like the 85/El Camino intersection, because at least it's not literally dumping you into a through lane. Worst case, you get directed back to Rengstorff. Worst case at Mathilda is that you get rear-ended because you didn't see the person behind you on 101.
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Feb 14, 2015 01:13
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:My personal favorite intersection is the Rengstorff exit on 101 south. There is an In and Out burger joint right there. Jesus, there better be a loving exit.
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Feb 14, 2015 01:15
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Pohl posted:There is an In and Out burger joint right there. Jesus, there better be a loving exit. This guy gets it.
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Feb 14, 2015 01:25
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a costco, in-n-out and micky D's right next to each other, thanks for reminding that California is such a unique place
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etalian posted:a costco, in-n-out and micky D's right next to each other, thanks for reminding that California is such a unique place I live within two miles of a Chick-Fil-A, Carl's Jr., McDonalds, Burger King, Five Guys, In-N-Out, The Habit, AND a Smashburger. I have no idea how they can ALL stay open.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:I live within two miles of a Chick-Fil-A, Carl's Jr., McDonalds, Burger King, Five Guys, In-N-Out, The Habit, AND a Smashburger. My old university has: 1. A Subway on campus. 2. A Subway half a block off the east side of campus. 3. A Subway one block off the north side of campus. 4. A Subway three blocks off the west side of campus. 5. A Subway five blocks off the west side of campus. Yes, 4 and 5 are two blocks from one another, but on opposite sides of the major street. 6. A Subway three blocks further west from Subway #5. 7. A Subway two blocks north from Subway #4. All of them are still open. In fact, #3 there used to be a Quiznos, but shut down about 3-4 years ago and became a Subway, which is still there today. 
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Sydin posted:My old university has: I've never been able to figure out how subway does this either.
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drilldo squirt posted:I've never been able to figure out how subway does this either. It costs like $20,000 to license a Subway franchise and they don't care since they get a percentage with no other liability. (For comparison, McDonalds requires something like $750,000 and you must have an additional $1 million in liquid assets)
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