Libertine posted:SK is best in the West in my humble opinion. That team qualified for worlds with loving Jesiz on their roster and has since upgraded both their carry positions with world class talent and it shows. Now that fredy can't get banned out and camped every single game they are just regulating people. I would take them right now in a Bo5 against any of the TSM, C9, CLG, FNC, EL set. Every team has tried to beat them in different ways and they've all lost. No matter how you try to pressure them on the map the other lanes will compensate and win. They basically win 2/3 lanes no matter what happens on the map, and usually 3/3. Yeah SK is the best team in the west right now. EU is still a stinky sock pit and the level of play is complete dog poo poo outside of sk and fnatic, by which I don't mean their ability to win lanes or whatever. No team outside of those two appears to have any idea what to do or why they would want to do it at any point in the game. Even the fairly bad NA teams like gravity or team 8 have clear ideas of what they want to draft towards and how they want to play the game, even if they aren't great at it a lot of the time. So I'd still say that NA, as a region, is playing better than EU. SK is still crisper than the best NA teams and is way more fluid in terms of what they can do and how they win though, which you can see regardless of quality of competition. Fnatic I'm less sure about.
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The thing about Fnatic is that right now they have 1 playstyle. That's it. But they seem cognizant of it? They barely had any practice time before the split apparently, they've barely had time on the same team as each other. But they're still winning with that one style, and they hinted that they're trying out other stuff in scrims that we haven't seen yet. So there's a lot of stuff pointing towards them having not hit their peak yet, which is good. Also: Reignover for player of the split so far? He shotcalls and translates for Huni, and seems to do both remarkably well.
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curiousCat posted:The thing about Fnatic is that right now they have 1 playstyle. That's it. Reignover's playstyle is so unique among junglers though, he completely dictates the early game by himself and if he's playing a jungler that falls off before late game, he will just throw himself directly at the enemy so his team can clean up and push advantages. FNatic is a really bloodthirsty team, but all their big teamfights look so calculated, even if they go 5 for 3. SK on the other hands, as nRated explained it, they only focus on their next objective, so they don't waste time putting a lot of wards up in sections of the map they're not going to be at. They're very decisive in where they're going and what they're doing, and they don't give up hardly any kills to get there. They're out-playing all teams on a very macro level that makes it look like Samsung White during Worlds, without even having the mechanical players to match. RealFoxy fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Feb 13, 2015 |
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Feb 13, 2015 07:13
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"He dies for the scuttle crab!!!" is my favorite casting sentence of the season so far.
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So I was re watching the SK/CW game at work and I think the biggest disappointment so far in EU is that Forgiven apparently doesn't play Kalista. 
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Lightning Knight posted:So I was re watching the SK/CW game at work and I think the biggest disappointment so far in EU is that Forgiven apparently doesn't play Kalista. It's more like he doesn't need to. What's the point in stealing candy from a little baby?
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Feb 13, 2015 09:50
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See that game wasn't far from LCS plays.
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Feb 13, 2015 11:24
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A team could try banning both Graves and Lucian or banning Lucian and first picking graves. Of course that leaves you with one ban for Fredy, Sven and Fox 
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Feb 13, 2015 11:25
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Savage Cracker posted:A team could try banning both Graves and Lucian or banning Lucian and first picking graves. Of course that leaves you with ban for Fredy, Sven and Fox Watch Forgiven bring out the pocket Ezreal in retaliation and style like Faker decided to go botlane. Guarantee you it's exactly what happens.
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Feb 13, 2015 11:27
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Transient People posted:It's more like he doesn't need to. What's the point in stealing candy from a little baby? Cause as a fan I would rather see him play other things. Lucian is a cool champ but the pros have been driving him, and now Graves, into the ground for a year and I want to see other things finally. Like seriously I'd be so hype for an SK Jinx or Twitch pick.
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Feb 13, 2015 11:33
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Libertine posted:nRated is probably their worst player, but he's certainly better than the great majority of support pros. I agree with most of your post word to word, but I'm not so sure you're giving enough credit to nRated. He's not a flashy mechanical god type of player that much is sure, but as I understand it he's one of the smartest analytical minds in Western LoL. Sometimes to a fault as seen in interviews where he might reveal a bit too much of his team's advanced thought processes. That said it's obviously a bit abstract to rate a player for something that's so intangible, but I'm not ready to call him SK's weak point any more than LemonNation on C9's side. They're a very smart team and I would guess much of what they're doing so well is his doing.
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Feb 13, 2015 11:50
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Feb 13, 2015 11:54
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Transient People posted:Watch Forgiven bring out the pocket Ezreal in retaliation and style like Faker decided to go botlane. Guarantee you it's exactly what happens. Yeah I agree that's the most likely outcome. I am curious why he defaults to Lucian when Graves isn't available though.
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Savage Cracker posted:Yeah I agree that's the most likely outcome. I am curious why he defaults to Lucian when Graves isn't available though. Mobility. Forgiven loves being able to control his positioning and Lucian is still arguably the most smoothly mobile teamfight carry, even moreso than Kalista. That he's similar to Graves helps too. Honestly it makes me really drat happy, because he's the reason I picked Lucian back up. I thought he'd been totally backbroken, but if Forgiven can make it work I need to put in the hours to get good with new Lucy too.
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Feb 13, 2015 12:21
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He doesn't think it's that good, but he knows he can get away with it, and it suits his playstyle. I don't think he likes Corki very much either so there's that.
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Feb 13, 2015 12:58
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Sad to see Jin Air play so sloppily vs KT NiceGameTV is going to be doing a Nemesis Mode between CJ and Najin on the 15th and put out this absolutely magical trailer for it
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Disinterested posted:He doesn't think it's that good, but he knows he can get away with it, and it suits his playstyle. I don't think he likes Corki very much either so there's that. forgiven posted:dont play corki
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Feb 13, 2015 13:41
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PlaceholderPigeon posted:Sad to see Jin Air play so sloppily vs KT ... National Urgot Council got me.
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Feb 13, 2015 16:57
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There's some games and stuff today. H2K vs Roccat SK Gaming vs Giants Gambit vs Elements Copenhagen Wolves vs FNatic MYM vs Unicorns of Love If FNatic can't close a game before 45 minutes they have a chance of losing to Wolves. I don't know how they manage to get so many wins by being such a lovely team but their only strength seems to be mentally wearing out teams and then getting a lucky win at 58 minutes.
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Feb 13, 2015 17:50
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Poor Gambit and MYM, gonna get cruuuushed.
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Feb 13, 2015 17:50
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Invalid Validation posted:Poor Gambit and MYM, gonna get cruuuushed. Based on Elements performance yesterday I don't think it's completely safe to say that Gambit are gonna get crushed. Giants, Wolves and Moms are gonna get murdered though.
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Feb 13, 2015 17:53
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H2K vs Roccat SK vs Giants Gambit vs Elements (this game will never finish, making Gambit the winner judging by the previous 2 weeks) CW vs FNatic MYM vs UOL
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Feb 13, 2015 18:17
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H2K vs Roccat - H2K is honestly kind of not bad, but now is the goddamn time for Roccat to evolve from terrible to passable. C'mon! SK vs Giants Gambit vs Elements CW vs FNatic MYM vs UOL Maybe I'll try watching this game and the Fnatic one.
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Feb 13, 2015 18:30
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I think it's weird that people keep thinking Roccat is going to evolve into something more resembling a dominant League team (even the commentators are on this note constantly), but then again I was a diehard Gambit fan for a lot longer than that was rational too. I think the Roccat you've seen so far is the Roccat we're getting.
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Feb 13, 2015 18:33
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Feb 13, 2015 18:37
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Feb 13, 2015 18:38
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Flameingblack posted:What happened to H2K? Why do they look so much better all of a sudden I think the fact that they got rid of Voidle who died all the time and got KaSing who has not yet died has been a big plus for them.
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Their play just seems solid right now. And against the shitshow that most of EU teams seem to be running that works out very well. They don't make many mistakes and know how to finish.
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Libertine posted:I think it's weird that people keep thinking Roccat is going to evolve into something more resembling a dominant League team (even the commentators are on this note constantly), but then again I was a diehard Gambit fan for a lot longer than that was rational too. I think the Roccat you've seen so far is the Roccat we're getting. There's a good chance you're right, but the classic "B-but they are so great at scrims!!" routine, as well as just liking the org, is still keeping me going despite their consistently poo poo games.
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Feb 13, 2015 18:42
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Hahah that loving Gnar gank.
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Odo mneI liked what they said on LPL the other night: RG first item is the sign of a losing Maokai.
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That Gnar gave all his fucks to charity and went to the game with empty pockets, too bad for Roccat
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Feb 13, 2015 18:43
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Wow what's this an EULCS game that might actually be ended quickly
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Feb 13, 2015 18:44
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Ryu is my sad grumpy spirit animal.
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Libertine posted:Odo Yeah a Maokai without Rod can be completely ignored. Also good to see Prolly's Boys do well.
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The announcers didn't see Ryu's last missed shockwave at the mid inner apparently. He hasn't hit one in like 5 minutes but ehhh whatever.
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Libertine posted:The announcers didn't see Ryu's last missed shockwave at the mid inner apparently. He hasn't hit one in like 5 minutes but ehhh whatever. Zoning ults.
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Feb 13, 2015 18:49
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Looks like the fratboys are here to stay.
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Feb 13, 2015 18:51
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The only game I'm going to call today is this: Gambit - Elements
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Sexpansion posted:The only game I'm going to call today is this: If Elements can't beat Gambit I can't wait to see Rekkles' social media.
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