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icantfindaname posted:I liked Catch-22 i read that for fun in middle school but i deffo did not fully understand it i should reread it, one day
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Oh also peep this right here: Subtle reference to slightly obscure work that only smart people will get
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Majorian posted:you get a pretty good analysis from Kurtz on what it would have taken for the US to win that war (ie: being even more savage, destructive, and unabashedly crazy than we already were in Vietnam). the point you're supposed to take from that is that we'd still have lost
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Cool Bear posted:Oh also peep this right here: Subtle reference to slightly obscure work that only smart people will get you're right, let's talk about twilight and 50 shades of grey
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Feb 14, 2015 04:05
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Joementum posted:I read Catcher in the Rye, Death of a Salesman, and As I Lay Dying in the same class. same, just toss in The Awakening sheesh
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Joementum posted:can't believe you got assigned that in high school. lucky. Yeah, that was senior AP English. The teacher was a local legend in Napa - incredibly cool dude. He had been an actor on Broadway, but came back to Napa to take care of his senile mom and became a teacher. Brilliant, brilliant man - one of the biggest inspirations in my life, and a good friend too. He died a few years ago from lung cancer (at 60-ish, but he looked 80), which was really sad but not unexpected. He smoked like a chimney. I still miss him though. 
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Not Wanted On The Voyage disturbed my 15 year old mind, but it was very creative and would have made for a way cooler Great Flood film than Noah.
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Majorian posted:I read that one twice, weirdly enough - once in a history course, and again in an honors English course. I love it so much, and I love the Bernstein operetta too. hm. someone with autism, read Brothers Karamazov in hs, studied russia in college. you're not from IL, are you? Joementum posted:the point you're supposed to take from that is that we'd still have lost really? i didnt take that away from the novel at all. i took away that you have to be more cunning, guile, ruthless, and novel with your ancient methodologies in order to win we never tried cutting off the hands of rural vietnamese, now did we? give the vc an extra mouth to feed with reduced productivity. make them raise taxes to the point where folks are willing to go I LOVE AMERICA PLEASE BOMB ME FREE My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Feb 14, 2015 |
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icantfindaname posted:I liked Catch-22 It's a pity Heller never managed to recapture the magic of that book because it's a favorite of mine as well. Some authors have just one good story in them, I guess. I don't have a favorite assigned read from high school, as what I got assigned was mostly tepid stuff plus a few downright stinkers. My Imaginary GF posted:really? i didnt take that away from the novel at all. i took away that you have to be more cunning, guile, ruthless, and novel with your ancient methodologies in order to win You're not winning anything worth having if that's what you have to do to get it, and utterly destroying yourself in the process.
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Feb 14, 2015 04:07
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My Imaginary GF posted:hm. someone with autism, read Brothers Karamazov in hs, studied russia in college. LOL, not at all - NorCal. But it sounds like I have a doppelgänger, which is annoying, because now I'm going to have to drive my shotgun all the way to Illinois.
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Feb 14, 2015 04:08
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i loved catch 22 as well, major major major major really resonates with me. now the worst book i read in high school was The Sound and the Fury. i have no idea why the gently caress i had to read that
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we read as i lay dying maybe reading faulkner in hs has planted the seed for demand of incest porn? alasissi is a weird loving place i tell you what
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forbidden lesbian posted:i read that for fun in middle school but i deffo did not fully understand it you should it is a good and pretty funny book. scheisskopf's arc conclusion is still the funniest goddamn thing I've read
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Jagchosis posted:i loved catch 22 as well, major major major major really resonates with me. now the worst book i read in high school was The Sound and the Fury. i have no idea why the gently caress i had to read that I felt the same way when I read it initially, but I went back a couple years ago with Cliff Notes, and really liked it. The Quentin section is so good.
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Majorian posted:LOL, not at all - NorCal. But it sounds like I have a doppelgänger, which is annoying, because now I'm going to have to drive my shotgun all the way to Illinois. This will end at a crossroads at midnight. Captain_Maclaine posted:You're not winning anything worth having if that's what you have to do to get it, and utterly destroying yourself in the process. Yeah, and anyways it wouldn't have won the war, because their will to defend their home would always be greater than our will to fight a war a world away.
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My Imaginary GF posted:really? i didnt take that away from the novel at all. i took away that you have to be more cunning, guile, ruthless, and novel with your ancient methodologies in order to win http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/28/us/report-on-brutal-vietnam-campaign-stirs-memories.html
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Jagchosis posted:i loved catch 22 as well, major major major major really resonates with me. now the worst book i read in high school was The Sound and the Fury. i have no idea why the gently caress i had to read that major ------ de coverly has always been my favorite part of that book for some reason
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Raskolnikov38 posted:you should it is a good and pretty funny book. scheisskopf's arc conclusion is still the funniest goddamn thing I've read i got bogged down like halfway through and never finished does it pick up after the whole syndicate gets fully fleshed out?
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forbidden lesbian posted:hopefully Mrs. Ayah will not get mad about me divulging the secret 7 years later She sounds like a cool teacher.  I read so many books myself that I barely remember the ones I was assigned. I know they included Father Goriot, Catcher in the Rye, and some Israeli books you wouldn't know, all of which I didn't like on principle. I did like All My Sons, I think, but it was more of a play, after all. I like reading plays. I thought the Caucasian Chalk Circle was good, as was Marat/Sade. Best performance of the latter I've seen was in an Israeli university production, much better than the Peter Brooks version.
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Jagchosis posted:now the worst book i read in high school was The Sound and the Fury. i have no idea why the gently caress i had to read that a great message to give high school kids: you will move away from home, abandon your roots, grow to resent yourself, and commit suicide anyone need a letter of recommendation for their college app?
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oh and clevinger's court martial was great how would you like to get washed out! and sent to the solomon islands! to bury bodies?!
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If we could all type a small description of the books that we read in order to convey a better understanding of what these books meant to us and why it was important that we did or did not get forced to read them in school, then that would be a good chat for smart people. If we just list which books we read or did not read and then expect the other posters here to know the significance of each of these items, and we act like we expect them to already know, well then that's pretentious. Pretentious nerds. Pretentious nerds are worse than fedora libertarian nerds because you have the power to do better, they don't, they are stupid.
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Joementum posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/28/us/report-on-brutal-vietnam-campaign-stirs-memories.html lets be honest, joe, the thing which kept colonial revolts down has always been chemical weapons we never attempted to gas the VC, Joementum. We never used our stocks of VX.
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Sharkie posted:I liked the actor who played Cicero, but yeah that wasn't a flattering portrait. New Octavian (and his rat-faced little wife) were so creepy and off-seeming. Brian Blessed did a much different but more believable Octavian in I Claudius. the thing is they nailed Cicero (and his hands) perfectly he was a poo poo
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Marat/Sade. Best performance of the latter I've seen was in an Israeli university production, much better than the Peter Brooks version. Tell me this is available to watch somewhere.
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My Imaginary GF posted:lets be honest, joe, the thing which kept colonial revolts down has always been chemical weapons i wouldn't be so sure about that
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Sharkie posted:This will end at a crossroads at midnight. I'll have my epic showdown playlist loaded up. (my epic showdown playlist only consists of "Playing With the Boys" by Kenny Loggins at the moment)
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Let's look at the past few pages and see that individual posters are simply listing books that they interacted with in some way, and then no other posters care.
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Joementum posted:the point you're supposed to take from that is that we'd still have lost Well, I don't know - I think it's more that it's asking something from Americans that we ultimately wouldn't be able to bring ourselves to do. That's my reading of it. But either way, it's a valid point. Cool Bear posted:Let's look at the past few pages and see that individual posters are simply listing books that they interacted with in some way, and then no other posters care. Silence.
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forbidden lesbian posted:i read that for fun in middle school but i deffo did not fully understand it it's the standard absurdist "life sucks, but you have to believe in something better anyways". it's like a longer, more cheerful (sort of) version of Camus
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Joementum posted:i wouldn't be so sure about that show me the receipt, joe. show me the receipt. if there isnt a signed receipt, it never happened.
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Cool Bear posted:If we could all type a small description of the books that we read in order to convey a better understanding of what these books meant to us and why it was important that we did or did not get forced to read them in school, then that would be a good chat for smart people. settle the gently caress down ignatius, youll blow out your pyloric valve
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Cool Bear posted:If we could all type a small description of the books that we read in order to convey a better understanding of what these books meant to us and why it was important that we did or did not get forced to read them in school, then that would be a good chat for smart people. Why, tis no matter, man; if they did hear, 1160 They would not mark me, or if they did mark, They would not pity me, yet plead I must; And bootless unto them [—] Therefore I tell my sorrows to the stones; Who, though they cannot answer my distress, 1165 Yet in some sort they are better than the tribunes, For that they will not intercept my tale: When I do weep, they humbly at my feet Receive my tears and seem to weep with me; And, were they but attired in grave weeds, 1170 Rome could afford no tribune like to these. A stone is soft as wax,—tribunes more hard than stones; A stone is silent, and offendeth not, And tribunes with their tongues doom men to death. [Rises] 1175 But wherefore stand'st thou with thy weapon drawn?
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icantfindaname posted:it's the standard absurdist "life sucks, but you have to believe in something better anyways". it's like a longer, more cheerful (sort of) version of Camus it is also a really really really good satire of how loving overwhelmingly dumb and what a nightmare military bureaucracy is
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Majorian posted:Well, I don't know - I think it's more that it's asking something from Americans that we ultimately wouldn't be able to bring ourselves to do. Well, yeah, that's Kurtz's point. But he's insane. And then he dies.
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Joementum posted:Well, yeah, that's Kurtz's point. But he's insane. And then he dies. Kurtz is the only one who understands and knows how to complete the mission. He's not insane, he's the only sane one in heart of darkness. And we all gotta die sometime E: gently caress you all, I'm gonna re-read heart of darkness tonight and mentally picture it as taking place in Syria.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Why, tis no matter, man; if they did hear, 1160 "O to complain upon this thread As a river upon stones washes No man can mark the distress A molecule of hydrogen and oxygen has magnetic properties which I understand the stone will yet yield
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Joementum posted:Well, yeah, that's Kurtz's point. But he's insane. And then he dies. I think the question here is, do we think that if the US were able to follow Kurtz's prescriptions, we would have been able to win the Vietnam War? I think the answer is a TECHNICAL "yes," in that by the time it was done, there would be nobody living in Vietnam anymore. But that's not exactly the type of victory anybody besides Kurtz really wanted. Anyway, yes, he is definitely crazy and very very dead by the end of it. I like to think that Brando may have been burbling off nonsense extemporaneously for some of those scenes and Coppola just kept the camera rolling. That's probably not the case, but it would be pretty funny if it were.
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It's easy to write a poem this is lameMajorian posted:I think the question here is, do we think that if the US were able to follow Kurtz's prescriptions, we would have been able to win the Vietnam War? I think the answer is a TECHNICAL "yes," in that by the time it was done, there would be nobody living in Vietnam anymore. But that's not exactly the type of victory anybody besides Kurtz really wanted. Anyway, yes, he is definitely crazy and very very dead by the end of it. THIS IS A POST and I want to read it thank you
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Cool Bear posted:"O to complain upon this thread O happy man! they have befriended thee. Why, foolish Cool Bear, dost thou not perceive That D&D is but a wilderness of tigers? Tigers must prey, and D&D affords no prey But ME and mine: how happy art thou, then, From these chatty devourers to be banished! But who comes with our brother Joe here?
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