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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Leperflesh posted:

I think that all cars in actual working, safely-drivable condition are worth $1k minimum. I don't think your "no repairs at all" rule is compatible with the $500 rule. At a bare minimum, you should probably make an exception for safety features, because it's probably a poor idea to encourage eachother to get on the road with dangerous/not-roadworthy vehicles.

It's also going to have to go on the honor system I assume, so it's probably better to just allow for a certain repairs budget, but exempt things like new tires, brakes, legally required emissions equipment, and literally broken steering/suspension components from the budget.

I think some events enforce the $500 rule by allowing the organizers to buy anyone's car for $500 after the event. This helps with the honor system.

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VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
for example there is this:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4889403947.html

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Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Pham Nuwen posted:

I think some events enforce the $500 rule by allowing the organizers to buy anyone's car for $500 after the event. This helps with the honor system.

I think lemons is like that, or used to be like that, but I think it's stupid. You make a $500 car competitive by putting a shitload of time and effort into it, which obviously won't translate into the $500 "value" of the car. Plus, don't you usually have $500 of tires, and another $500 in seats into those kinds of things?

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
It's not perfect and they aren't really 500 dollar cars as-raced. But the rules do keep the cost of entry down.

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~
Someone buy this to have the classiest manual transmissioned shitbox beater ever:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/4870337561.html



http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/10/capsule-review-1984-bmw-733i-5-speed/

Dat steering wheel!

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
almost bought one of those in automatic trim but great on gas they are not. Might get 20MPG highway if you're lucky.

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
Me and my friend bought a '78 auto 733i for $500 when we were 17. Found it on some weird want ad website and it was some old dude selling it in the middle of no where. We showed up and he expected us to tow it since he said it hadn't been started in two full years (none of this was in the ad or said over the phone). Well it started right up, no problems at all. We bought it on the spot and drove it away, threw some new gas in it, and hit 140MPH on the way back, smooth as butter. It was a complete train wreck electrically however, and the windshield was cracked.

It was a grey market euro model with glass lights, the brightest high beams I have ever seen on a car in my life, and everything including all the gauges we in german. When you turned the windshield wipers on, the doors unlocked, when you moved the power seats, the sunroof opened, when you turned the lights on the windshield washer sprayed and so on. It was a mess, and we found out a new windshield was over $1,000, and we just couldn't pool the money together to fix and insure it so we sold it for scrap :(. drat that thing was fast for such an old car, and fuel injected.

A clean 5 speed would be extremely fun.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

PaintVagrant posted:

Someone buy this to have the classiest manual transmissioned shitbox beater ever:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/4870337561.html



http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/10/capsule-review-1984-bmw-733i-5-speed/

Dat steering wheel!

I've always toyed with buying one of these as a goof. I wish BMW was still insane enough to offer a manual option on the 7 series.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
There's no way you got a 78 733i auto to 140MPH unless you were going downhill with a 30mph tailwind

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~
After I saw it, I immediately dumped the contents of my checking into a big payment on the principle of my car loan, as to not do something stupid with that money like buying a shitbox 30 year old 7 series BMW.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Raluek posted:

I think lemons is like that, or used to be like that, but I think it's stupid. You make a $500 car competitive by putting a shitload of time and effort into it, which obviously won't translate into the $500 "value" of the car. Plus, don't you usually have $500 of tires, and another $500 in seats into those kinds of things?

The whole $500 thing falls apart as soon as you consider that you're going to need a shitload of tires and brakes and the ones on the car you just bought for $500 probably aren't up to 6+ hours of racing. By the time you look at all the safety poo poo you realize you probably could get a rally car going for a little bit more money.

Last time I looked into lemons they wanted you to have some gimmick like running a station wagon as the ghostbusters car or else. They blatantly stated they'd prefer you not turn up if you and your team didn't dress up or whatever. I wish they would just strip out the gimmicks and let everyone run a shitbox for 12 hours straight and may the best man win.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





1500quidporsche posted:

I wish they would just strip out the gimmicks and let everyone run a shitbox for 12 hours straight and may the best man win.

This is what ChumpCar and the other recently-started cheap-car-racing league are trying to be.

It also doesn't help that if you don't push for at least some gimmickry, you end up with what mysteriously seems to be every $500 E30 and Miata in the world.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

IOwnCalculus posted:

This is what ChumpCar and the other recently-started cheap-car-racing league are trying to be.

It also doesn't help that if you don't push for at least some gimmickry, you end up with what mysteriously seems to be every $500 E30 and Miata in the world.

The organizers should buy every last E30 and Miata that shows up; at least if they aren't total cancermobiles. No loving way there's a running E30 for that price now, and Miatas are pretty dubious too.

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh
How about a road rally series whereby the rally is announced in a city/location and everyone must go there and within 48 hours buy a sub $1,500 car from local classifieds or whatever, then drive from that location to an undisclosed location announced after the 48 hours are up. Someplace cross-country and more than 1,500 miles away, with various possible routes available. The goal isn't necessarily to be the fastest, just to make it and have fun and see the country in a shitbox car.

puberty worked me over
May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Jan 4, 2020

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!

rscott posted:

There's no way you got a 78 733i auto to 140MPH unless you were going downhill with a 30mph tailwind

Believe it or not, but we did. I distinctly remember being shocked at how fast we got it up to - I mean I'm sure it was off by ~10mph, but my friend was following in my Corolla and he said he was pegged at it's max speed of 110 and we lost him.
That BMW had some fuckin balls for what it was - 194HP according to the internet - which is more than enough to hit 130-140ish.

Ah to be young and stupid again…

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
I dunno, didn't those also only have a 3 speed Automatic? I think the speedometer was probably way off.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

Human Grand Prix posted:

I dunno, didn't those also only have a 3 speed Automatic? I think the speedometer was probably way off.

3 speed zf with no overdrive

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
He said the dash was in German, so it was probably km/hr

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
Dash was in MPH, but everything else was german and it definitely had the euro lights and Bosch injection.
Maybe the dash was swapped out at some point?

Listen, this was 10 years ago so we could have been doing ~120, but I remember pinning the speedo past 130. I'm sure with how hosed the electrical systems were, and a possible swapped dash we could have been going slower.

Pretty funny since my '99 corolla at the time was also a 3 speed auto.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

trouser chili posted:

How about a road rally series whereby the rally is announced in a city/location and everyone must go there and within 48 hours buy a sub $1,500 car from local classifieds or whatever, then drive from that location to an undisclosed location announced after the 48 hours are up. Someplace cross-country and more than 1,500 miles away, with various possible routes available. The goal isn't necessarily to be the fastest, just to make it and have fun and see the country in a shitbox car.

I wish TSD rallies had a shitbox rule. I'm sick and tired of being the only 2WD car against a tidal wave of WRXs.

HEY VAPER
May 15, 2014

by XyloJW
So my buddy's changed gears, the plan now it so buy an e30, and casually fix up his e36 and apply for a rebuilt title when it's all said and done. Right now we're looking for:
- clean paint, clean body work, no rust. no zinnorot or brilliantrot. highly prefer original paint to a professional respray. Faded paint is fine, as long as it's something that can be detailed out.
- model doesn't matter at all
- coupe and sedan body styles ok, absolutely NO verts
- would go up to 8k for a LHD and registered touring
- mechanical issues, non running are no problem
- WA, OR, or Cali car
- Strictly OEM or tastefully modified, would be willing to pay more for documentation
so basically, a turn-key sorted out touring for $8000 would be idea. A turn key $4000-5000 325is would be fine. A $2-3k 325i/eta/318 would be fine. A $1k with a good body that needs a motor and mechanical work is also fine.
He isn't picky about interior colors, he likes tan (ugh) so it should be an easy interior trade if he ends up with a different color

Also kind of casually looking into e28's and e34's as well.


Real gold including asking price:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4884988094.html

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


The last line tells the real story...There are no roads to Ketchikan, or even anywhere near Ketchikan.

http://juneau.craigslist.org/cto/4883102929.html



quote:

Can chop off roof. And use for saving labor at industrial yards and mechanic shops. Example instead of pushing cars in and out or four people pushing stuff. Why not hook this up like a four wheeler. And increase efficiency at job sight and save everybody's back. Also can plow parking lots with small shovel attached to front Also can be used as fun recreational vehicle free. Call. For info. Also can be used to fix another escape parts
show contact info
Bought by mistake in katchican need help picking up giving away for free

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

HEY VAPER posted:

So my buddy's changed gears, the plan now it so buy an e30, and casually fix up his e36 and apply for a rebuilt title when it's all said and done. Right now we're looking for:
- clean paint, clean body work, no rust. no zinnorot or brilliantrot. highly prefer original paint to a professional respray. Faded paint is fine, as long as it's something that can be detailed out.
- model doesn't matter at all
- coupe and sedan body styles ok, absolutely NO verts
- would go up to 8k for a LHD and registered touring
- mechanical issues, non running are no problem
- WA, OR, or Cali car
- Strictly OEM or tastefully modified, would be willing to pay more for documentation
so basically, a turn-key sorted out touring for $8000 would be idea. A turn key $4000-5000 325is would be fine. A $2-3k 325i/eta/318 would be fine. A $1k with a good body that needs a motor and mechanical work is also fine.
He isn't picky about interior colors, he likes tan (ugh) so it should be an easy interior trade if he ends up with a different color

Also kind of casually looking into e28's and e34's as well.


Real gold including asking price:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4884988094.html


Does your friend fancy flying down to California to buy my '91 325ix? :henget: (OR car/title, just moved down in it)

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

Um. YES.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/edmonton/1991-lexus-sc400/1046454623?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Hell, I'm not doing anything this weekend I think I want to head up there and take a look.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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There was an SC300 near me about a year ago with the same price/mileage - I really wish I had picked it up, but I couldn't justify another car for cruising.

I kind of wish I had it now, I've been doing the same 250 miles of straight, boring interstate once or twice a week for almost 6 months now. The drive also makes me wonder about a new GTO.

Edit: what do Canadians and other metric Socialists say instead of 'mileage'? Kilometerage?

blk fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Feb 14, 2015

TWSS
Jun 19, 2008
Fuel economy?

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

365 Nog Hogger posted:

Does your friend fancy flying down to California to buy my '91 325ix? :henget: (OR car/title, just moved down in it)

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

blk posted:

Edit: what do Canadians and other metric Socialists say instead of 'mileage'? Kilometerage?

We still use 'mileage' mostly in that context (and almost exclusively when talking about fuel economy). People who insist on metricizing their vocabulary will just say 'kilometers' and skip the -age suffix entirely.

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"
well this is something






Craiglist maniac posted:

The body is a 1931 Chevrolet and the chassis is a 1966 Ford dump truck. I built this in 2006 and have never finished it. The chassis has been lowered 18", shortened 7' and pinched 9" up front. Rear suspension is quarter-liptec leafs and the front is a 4-link suicide leaf set-up. Steering is set up and works. The car does not run and has no title. It comes with the original engine and transmission from the truck, 300 Ford inline 6 and 4 spd. There are many other parts included and rear, door and windshield glass from the Chevy. $4,500.00 OBO. call with any questions

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/4889869486.html

Dr.Caligari fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Feb 14, 2015

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Don't have an ad to post but I'm selling my car and this guy that's looking at it is driving me nuts.

I'm selling the car for a little more than the market would normally bear but thats because everything is in good condition and you don't need to go junkyard hunting for switches and poo poo.

So this guy takes it upon himself to now just make poo poo up. "The engine needs a tune up, I can feel it." No it doesn't its a 3600lb car with 220hp from the 90s, its not going to light the world on fire with its speed. "Its hesitating can you feel that? it needs new spark plugs" No, it runs fine. "Why do you have this spare jug of ATF in the back? Its leaking" No its from when I did the tranny fluid last year. "There was one listed on kijiji for half the price two weeks ago." That's because it was T-boned and has a salvage title.

Guy is coming tomorrow with a jack to lift up the car so he in his expert opinion can tell if its been in an accident and repaired, god help me :smithicide:

Senior Funkenstien
Apr 16, 2003
Dinosaur Gum

1500quidporsche posted:

Don't have an ad to post but I'm selling my car and this guy that's looking at it is driving me nuts.

I'm selling the car for a little more than the market would normally bear but thats because everything is in good condition and you don't need to go junkyard hunting for switches and poo poo.

So this guy takes it upon himself to now just make poo poo up. "The engine needs a tune up, I can feel it." No it doesn't its a 3600lb car with 220hp from the 90s, its not going to light the world on fire with its speed. "Its hesitating can you feel that? it needs new spark plugs" No, it runs fine. "Why do you have this spare jug of ATF in the back? Its leaking" No its from when I did the tranny fluid last year. "There was one listed on kijiji for half the price two weeks ago." That's because it was T-boned and has a salvage title.

Guy is coming tomorrow with a jack to lift up the car so he in his expert opinion can tell if its been in an accident and repaired, god help me :smithicide:

Why are you still dealing with him?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


prepare to be lowballed, and if you refuse, to have your ad re-listed with with a much lower price by him.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Tommychu posted:

Um. YES.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/edmonton/1991-lexus-sc400/1046454623?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Hell, I'm not doing anything this weekend I think I want to head up there and take a look.
Needs "barrings"

I think

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

slidebite posted:

Needs "barrings"

I think

It's alright, I have a prass and like 20 poolars at work
(yeah that's dumb but you don't see these things in LHD/non-:rice:/not completely clapped out very often.)
1500qp: sever. A douche like that doesn't deserve your car.

Turbo Fondant fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Feb 14, 2015

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Senior Funkenstien posted:

Why are you still dealing with him?

Not much of a market for Subaru SVXs so unfortunately I've gotta follow up ever lead. He's coming to take a look at it in an hour so unless he makes an offer after lifting the car up I'm done with him.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Have you posted it on the SVX enthusiast boards? There are people that own like five of them and would probably buy a plane ticket for the excuse to pick up a good condition one and road trip it.

I don't care how badly that car would get outrun by a modern accord, I still want one one day. I just hope they don't cost like $20k for a good condition one by the time I have the money.

SUSE Creamcheese
Apr 11, 2007
Make sure to jack it up yourself so that he doesn't damage something and then try to bargain you down because of the flaw. Because he sounds like the kind of guy that would do that.

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Have you posted it on the SVX enthusiast boards? There are people that own like five of them and would probably buy a plane ticket for the excuse to pick up a good condition one and road trip it.

I don't care how badly that car would get outrun by a modern accord, I still want one one day. I just hope they don't cost like $20k for a good condition one by the time I have the money.
This. With something like an SVX, take advantage of the enthusiast market.

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

zundfolge posted:

Make sure to jack it up yourself so that he doesn't damage something and then try to bargain you down because of the flaw. Because he sounds like the kind of guy that would do that.
I want $1500 off because of this hole I put through the floorboards!! :saddowns:

Good luck selling the SVX, I've always wanted one but the tranny issues in particular have always scared me. Too bad they never offered them with a factory stick.

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