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G-Hawk posted:I liked Goran in Houston but he is probably going to get the worst NBA contract since Josh Smith in the offseason and it sounds like he thinks he should be a #1 option still when he needs to be more of a 6th man probably. Giving up anything real for him is probably a terrible idea. The only difference between this year's team and last year's is that Channing Frye is in Orlando. I'd like to see if he could duplicate last year with a fully spread out offense where he can do his Dragic stuff. If your team is set up like that, then I think Dragic would be worth a big deal, if not, then no.
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PG is so deep in the NBA, its getting hard to determine value. The Kings essentially trading IT to pay Dragic twice as much would be pretty funny though.TheFallenEvincar posted:Who says???? You are splitting up the Morris twins, you monster! Also, didn't the Suns basically offer both of them one contract?
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Feb 18, 2015 14:14
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Lockback posted:PG is so deep in the NBA, its getting hard to determine value. The Kings essentially trading IT to pay Dragic twice as much would be pretty funny though. The gm gave them a total sum and told them to split it themselves.
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Feb 18, 2015 14:49
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If PG is so deep in the NBA, why don't the Miami Heat have one? :'(.
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Feb 18, 2015 14:57
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Lockback posted:PG is so deep in the NBA, its getting hard to determine value. The Kings essentially trading IT to pay Dragic twice as much would be pretty funny though. They share a bank account so either way the money is going into the same place.
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Feb 18, 2015 15:14
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Strawberry Panda posted:If PG is so deep in the NBA, why don't the Miami Heat have one? It's absolutely crazy how good of a fit Mario Chalmers was next to Lebron and Wade, and how absolutely terrible he is in any other context. Spacebump posted:They share a bank account so either way the money is going into the same place. Man, having an identical twin is a relationship I can't even begin to understand.
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Feb 18, 2015 15:16
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25072213/trade-deadline-buzz-uncertainty-reigns-as-deadline-approaches Some nuggets on potential deals. Prince and Kevin Martin potentially headed for a buyouts. I'd expect whoever doesn't get Chandler between LAC and Portland to be in the market for Prince though I'd have to imagine Martin will be claimed on waivers by someone.
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Feb 18, 2015 16:32
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A Kevin Martin buyout would be incredibly surprising. Why would the Wolves not take trade calls on him, and then pay him to play for someone else?
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Feb 18, 2015 16:39
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Lockback posted:A Kevin Martin buyout would be incredibly surprising. Why would the Wolves not take trade calls on him, and then pay him to play for someone else? Hasn't Flip been trying to get rid of him since day one? I don't really get it myself. I'd trade him for some assets but I don't understand the obsession with getting rid of him.
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Feb 18, 2015 16:46
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Lockback posted:A Kevin Martin buyout would be incredibly surprising. Why would the Wolves not take trade calls on him, and then pay him to play for someone else? I thought the same thing. Are the wolves really not taking trade calls on him? Also surprised that Brandon Bass isn't likely to move, but the more I think about it, almost every playoff team has a pretty good PF.
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Feb 18, 2015 16:51
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Godspeed Larry Sanders @ESPNSteinLine: ESPN sources say that Milwaukee's buyout of big man Larry Sanders is all but done and sides' parting is soon to be made official
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Feb 18, 2015 16:52
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Kevin Martin only likes to play for Rick Adelman, so he will wander for eternity like a basketball ronin searching for his master.
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Feb 18, 2015 16:53
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chunkles posted:Godspeed Larry Sanders That's crazy. They couldn't trade him to a team that wanted to take a shot on him coming back a la Bynum?
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Feb 18, 2015 17:06
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Geriatric Pirate posted:That's crazy. They couldn't trade him to a team that wanted to take a shot on him coming back a la Bynum? Remember, he is dealing with "issues" that we don't know about. They could be pretty bad if nobody wants him right now.
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Feb 18, 2015 17:10
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Geriatric Pirate posted:That's crazy. They couldn't trade him to a team that wanted to take a shot on him coming back a la Bynum? No team is going to invest 4 years at 11 million/year on hoping a reclamation project works out.
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Geriatric Pirate posted:That's crazy. They couldn't trade him to a team that wanted to take a shot on him coming back a la Bynum? No, its not clear if Sanders WANTS to play basketball, no one is going to take on 22+ million on a guy who might not ever play. chunkles posted:Hasn't Flip been trying to get rid of him since day one? I don't really get it myself. I'd trade him for some assets but I don't understand the obsession with getting rid of him. http://www.twincities.com/timberwolves/ci_27508478/timberwolves-say-kevin-martin-not-trade-candidate Flip has been saying they want him. I don't think that article is correct on the buyout rumor.
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:I thought the same thing. Are the wolves really not taking trade calls on him? It might be because he's got a surprisingly high salary, something like eight or nine million. It might just be too hard to make that work in terms of the cap for a team looking for PF depth, which is a shame because Bass is awesome and deserves better than the 2015 Celtics.
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Lockback posted:Flip has been saying they want him. I don't think that article is correct on the buyout rumor. Dammit I can't find any of them now but I feel like Flip has been trying to include him in trades since he took over from Adelman pretty much.
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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 17s17 seconds ago ESPN sources say that Knicks will officially rule Carmelo Anthony out for rest of the season later Wednesday Good night, sweet prince.
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Speaking of sweet Princes I don't know what LAC or Portland think they would be getting in Tayshaun. I love the dude but he hasn't really been a big impact player in awhile.
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chunkles posted:Dammit I can't find any of them now but I feel like Flip has been trying to include him in trades since he took over from Adelman pretty much. He has, though a lot of the Kevin Love trade stuff where they said including Martin was part of it was flat wrong. They always saw Martin as an asset, they just didn't have a huge use for him. I think the market looked too poor so they just pulled him off the block, but I don't see a buyout. There's no ill will or anything. Martin likes playing for the Wolves and he seems to get along with Flip just fine. I mean, he's been having a really nice season and they run a lot of the offense through him.
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WhyteRyce posted:Here's how far apart Jazz and Enes Kanter were last fall: Utah offered 4 years, $32M, but Kanter's camp wanted Hayward-type money. #sources Kinda glad he and his agent are crazy.
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roundmidnight posted:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 17s17 seconds ago Who in the gently caress is taking shots on the Knicks?
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I'm going to be sad to see Dragic leave the Suns, he's a very likable player and fun to watch. But this is of course not unexpected. I haven't been following the NBA as closely as usual this season b/c life has been nuts, so I'm not sure where his value is at. I do like the idea of Dragic to the Lakers, making them just good enough to give the Suns their pick. Though I'm not sure what else LAL has to offer, I'd love Randle, but I'm sure thats asking too much.
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MourningView posted:Kinda glad he and his agent are crazy. I hope Utah gets rid of him lest they lock in yet another piece of a 30 win core to a huge deal.
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roundmidnight posted:I hope Utah gets rid of him lest they lock in yet another piece of a 30 win core to a huge deal. So much young talent!!!! I assume we're just going to keep repeating that until they're all like 30.
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Feb 18, 2015 18:01
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HooverDam posted:I'm going to be sad to see Dragic leave the Suns, he's a very likable player and fun to watch. But this is of course not unexpected. It probably isn't asking enough. Randle is a big unknown at this point.
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I don't see how it's a good idea for Doc to make Crawford untouchable. I love Crawford, but dealing him for a real SF (if he can even net that somehow which is a huge question mark) is the only way that the Clippers compete for anything this year.
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If the offers on the table for Phoenix are Nik Stauskas and Jason Thompson versus Patrick Beverly's expiring +junk versus Randle + salary filler, I'm going with Randle+Jordan Hill's expiring or whatever.
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Terry Glenn posted:If the offers on the table for Phoenix are Nik Stauskas and Jason Thompson versus Patrick Beverly's expiring +junk versus Randle + salary filler, I'm going with Randle+Jordan Hill's expiring or whatever. Why on earth would the Lakers Trade Randel for a guy they can just sign in the offseason? That would be Billy King levels of stupid.
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thompson posted:I don't see how it's a good idea for Doc to make Crawford untouchable. I love Crawford, but dealing him for a real SF (if he can even net that somehow which is a huge question mark) is the only way that the Clippers compete for anything this year. I doubt Jamal is untouchable, more likely that his value to LAC is way higher than his value to any other team, especially one that would be looking to trade a SF. Paul Zuvella posted:Why on earth would the Lakers Trade Randel for a guy they can just sign in the offseason? That would be Billy King levels of stupid. Yeah LA isn't trading anything valuable for Dragic. LA has a good chance of signing him in the summer as most good teams already have a good PG, and hardly any good teams have cap space.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Why on earth would the Lakers Trade Randel for a guy they can just sign in the offseason? That would be Billy King levels of stupid. I was just referring to the posters above me. I don't think anyone's giving up anything except junk contracts and maybe a prospect like Stauskas for Dragic.
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Also I can't decide if I want the Lakers to sign Dragic. On one hand $90m/4 for an average 29 year old PG could backfire spectacularly. But on the other hand Dragic could make them relevant enough that they could somehow trade spare parts for AD or something stupid like that.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Why on earth would the Lakers Trade Randel for a guy they can just sign in the offseason? That would be Billy King levels of stupid. Because FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY you could also receive 1 (one) Plumlee! @ESPNSteinLine: Latest out of PHX: Hear Miles Plumlee, made available by Suns last month, could well be attached to Dragic deal if firm trade materializes
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chunkles posted:Because FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY you could also receive 1 (one) Plumlee! but if you order now, we'll throw in a second plumlee of equal or lesser value
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The Suns need a big man, they could get Brook Lopez from the Nets, send Goran, Zoran and the other Plumlee there, then a third team would get Dragic and send the Nets some picks that they surely need to start a rebuild.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Who in the gently caress is taking shots on the Knicks? Prepare yourself for Langston Gallowaysanity. With Melo gone Galloway and Jason Smith are more than likely both going to be putting up at least 15 FGA a piece
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Max Awfuls posted:The Suns need a big man, they could get Brook Lopez from the Nets, send Goran, Zoran and the other Plumlee there, then a third team would get Dragic and send the Nets some picks that they surely need to start a rebuild. Not an awful idea if Houston was the 3rd team http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k9x7zze
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Rick posted:It probably isn't asking enough. Randle is a big unknown at this point. on the other hand, I feel like teams place a high value on a guy because of his draft slot if they haven't seen him play. IE "well we can't trade Randle, he was the #7 pick!!!" Paul Zuvella posted:Why on earth would the Lakers Trade Randel for a guy they can just sign in the offseason? That would be Billy King levels of stupid. Because if you don't trade for Dragic he'll likely end up in Miami, Indiana or wherever and that team would of course have the inside track on resigning him. If you wait until the summer and you really want him, you may get nothing. Also, this silly trade works: LAL sends: Julius Randle Steve Nash PHX sends: Goran Dragic Zoran Dragic Miles Plumlee I think the Suns would need a bit more back in this deal (maybe a 2nd rounder? Or heavily protected 1st) I would hope Plumlee would return to last seasons form and along w/ Dragic push them out of the top 5 of the lottery and give the Suns their pick. Mostly, I'm just sentimental sap and want Nash to retire on the Suns. E: I also would like to live in a fantasy world where there's some way the Suns can get LA to remove protections on their pick and the Suns get lucky with the ping pong balls and get Okafor, but I know it won't happen. Maybe if we send the Morri? You can have two Morris' and two Dragics LA! Plus one Plumlee, you'll only need one more Plumlee and 2 Zellers and you'll be complete! HooverDam fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Feb 18, 2015 |
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