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GreenNight posted:They'd have to kill him (and all his brothers) off from Agents of Shield. A recurring cameo role is not necessarily one that he'd have to quit. His Agents scenes could be wrapped up in the various 2 week holiday vacations the show normally takes. Joel could probably even keep doing Community if Yahoo works and they keep it alive since their shooting for 10-13 episode seasons only takes around a month. The biggest question is if they'd move the studio to LA or leave it in NYC. I'd really love to see them go with 0 downtime the rest of the year and just have various guest hosts come in and "audition" for the main spot. Make choosing the next Daily Show host actual Highlander or something. Generic American posted:Though I'm loathe to suggest it, since I really want the Daily Show to avoid sticking too close to the formula... If they were really keen on aping Jon's "White Guy Straight-Man reads the news to sillier people" schtick untouched, I personally think John Fugelsang would be a good choice. At least, I remember liking him whenever he'd pop up on Talking Liberally; he's got that nice balance between political motivation and plain comedic charm. Maybe it's just the hair, but he reminds me of Stewart in a lot of ways that I can't really pin down. Granted, though, that's a really dark horse in the race. His name won't even be on the radar for it unless he kills ten other potential hosts and steals their power Highlander-style. I don't think they have to stick to the identical formula: any new guy is going to bring their own flair and style. John Oliver took 3-4 episodes before he really found his comedic voice, for example, and it was different than Stewart's. But there are some bases they need to cover: 1) relevant to current events, 2) politically focused, 3) funny. If they hit those 3 things, the show will carry on without Stewart.
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Feb 16, 2015 01:34
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Oliver also got gifted the Carlos Danger story, which was a homerun for a satire show if there ever was one. Not to say John isn't awesome, mind you.
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Feb 16, 2015 23:06
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~DANGER!~ ~DANGER!~
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Feb 16, 2015 23:26
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Apoplexy posted:~DANGER!~ *awkward dancing that looks like a seizure*
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Feb 16, 2015 23:53
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That was always the best part about it.
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Feb 17, 2015 00:09
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So it looks like Jessica voluntarily removed herself from the list of possible TDS hosts. 
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Feb 17, 2015 00:17
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Echo Chamber posted:So it looks like Jessica voluntarily removed herself from the list of possible TDS hosts. Well, we can still hope for Aasif Mandvi.
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Feb 17, 2015 00:25
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Jessica Williams posted:Haha but I'm not like, dead.This is the beginning of my career. I'm gonna troll that rear end for yrs. I'm okay with this.
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Feb 17, 2015 00:56
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Wow, IGN proves they're terrible by putting out a '7 People Who Could Replace Jon Stewart' and they include Ricky Gervais. The other outliers are Amy Poehler, Joel McHale, and Patton Oswalt.
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Feb 17, 2015 01:29
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Apoplexy posted:~DANGER!~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjiSm4ZPVKM
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Feb 17, 2015 01:43
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Apoplexy posted:~DANGER!~ ~PELIGRO~ ~PELIGRO~
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Feb 17, 2015 01:44
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I want to love the Danger stuff, but Mystikal is a horrible person and can't support it entirely.
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Feb 17, 2015 01:51
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I'd rather they channel as much or more from the Colbert Report than the "Fox News Refutations Of The Day" formula. Oliver's show not only does news events funnier most of the time, but if you're looking for is political advocacy he's been actually doing that. Between writer burnout and host fatigue and having to do many more hours of content, TDS seems to have gone from it's 2003-2010 peak to "Today's Mitch McConnell quotes, in Turtle Voice."
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Feb 17, 2015 02:19
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Stewart's "thing" has always been to criticize the media more than the politicians. His most acidic words have always been lodged at CNN or Fox News or more traditional outlets - and although he's given more time to CNN the media has always been his primary target. And to be honest, in an ideal world I hope the next host kinda veers away from that topic. I'm much more interested in exposing the entire political machine where the media is just one enabler, and not the root cause of the disease. But mainly I'm just worried that someone will look at TDS and turn it back into a generic "satire" riff. You can and probably should change a lot of things up, but the daily show's one non-negotiable element is the focus on politics and government. Take that away and you're left with nothing.
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Feb 17, 2015 03:51
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I'm throwing my inconsequential vote behind Ben Mankiewicz of The Young Turks (he's not the berzerker oaf that Cenk, the main host, is). While it would do nothing for diversity in late night programming, it would probably be the most seamless transition imaginable, because Mankiewicz and Stewart have eerily similar personalities, able to go back and forth between engaging, intimate storytelling and blow-your-hair-back righteous anger. And obviously he's already as educated about, and fluent in, politics as you can get. But then part of me wants him to stay at TYT because I love that show as is. Fugelsang, however, is the right wing's caricature of a smug liberal shithead come to life. He causes me physical pain when he's on tv. Please god not him. But mention of him reminds me of Stephanie Miller, who is another possibility. Her current show is abysmal but she's capable of being great.
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Feb 17, 2015 05:44
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Wait did Wilmore's show go into a 2 week break just a few weeks after starting?  anyways John Oliver is on Jimmy Fallon tonight.
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Feb 17, 2015 20:00
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spronk posted:Wait did Wilmore's show go into a 2 week break just a few weeks after starting? It's not a good sign. It means CC knows that if TDS isn't new, most people aren't going to bother sticking around or tuning in if TNS is new. One can hope they take the two weeks and look really closely at what they've done and what isn't working.
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Feb 17, 2015 20:19
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It's not a good sign. It means CC knows that if TDS isn't new, most people aren't going to bother sticking around or tuning in if TNS is new. TDS and Colbert always went off and came back at the same time until Colbert left. I'm pretty sure Comedy Central just considers it a 1 hour block that happens to have two hosts.
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Feb 17, 2015 20:24
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Also @midnight goes off the same time. All three shows have the same schedule, it's been like this for years. poo poo aint new.
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Feb 17, 2015 20:26
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I've only watched the first Wilmore episode, is the rest just as bad?
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Feb 17, 2015 20:54
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CSM posted:I've only watched the first Wilmore episode, is the rest just as bad? It's been hit or miss, honestly. A lot depends on the panel and the topic. The vaccine episode was a trainwreck.
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Feb 17, 2015 20:55
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Bad is subjective. I've been enjoying the show.
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Feb 17, 2015 20:55
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Let's use this time to post clips of our favorite bits: http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/90ejkv/sarah-palin-s-bus-tour---america-s-bus "I loving love the bus" Boywhiz88 fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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Feb 17, 2015 20:58
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Last Week Tonight was just renewed through 2017, so that should put to bed anyone hoping that John Oliver would jump ship back to CC (not that he would or should.)
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Feb 17, 2015 21:05
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I really disliked the panel segment which was just this circle jerk on race issues. Which I don't disagree with but it was still a circle jerk.
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Feb 17, 2015 21:07
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GreenNight posted:Bad is subjective. I've been enjoying the show. Yeah, me too. It's not even close to being a good replacement for Colbert but I do like watching it.
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Feb 17, 2015 21:08
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bull3964 posted:Last Week Tonight was just renewed through 2017, so that should put to bed anyone hoping that John Oliver would jump ship back to CC (not that he would or should.) This is good news all around.
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Feb 17, 2015 21:13
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I wish Oliver would have longer seasons, but that's me being selfish.
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Feb 17, 2015 21:14
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GreenNight posted:I wish Oliver would have longer seasons, but that's me being selfish. This is the HBO Way. At least he doesn't take 2 years between seasons like Sopranos.
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Feb 17, 2015 21:16
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Yeah but it's a talk show, not a fictional drama with a cast of characters. I was wrong anyways. His first season was 24 episodes, and his second (and renewal seasons) are 35 episodes each. GreenNight fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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Feb 17, 2015 21:21
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CSM posted:I've only watched the first Wilmore episode, is the rest just as bad? Nothing changes about the format, no. Some episodes were ok, but the fundamental problems the show has (keep it 100, southpark style "truth is in the middle" and Larry giving airtime to his "comedian" buddies panel casting, milquetoast toothless hosting) have thus far not been addressed at all. Based on the appearance of an EP on the last episode, it doesn't look like they realize that things aren't working.
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Feb 17, 2015 21:35
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Oh, I know! Jimmy Dore, another associate of TYT's. He's a great political comedian, and he's not offensively liberal in the way Fugelsang is. He's more of a 'I'm dumb and all of this seems stupid even TO ME!' guy. Check out his stand-up specials, he's pretty great.
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Feb 17, 2015 22:50
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The Daily Show With Jessica Williams ain't happening, folks.
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Feb 18, 2015 00:36
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We've known that for a day or two. It still sucks. Of all the current cast, she's the one who can best play both straight man and comic foil. I am concerned what Jessica would do when TDS changes regimes. I doubt she'll want to stick around too long under the next host and wait for the the next host to retire. Her career's just too promising.
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Feb 18, 2015 00:47
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What holiday are we on now?
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Feb 18, 2015 06:42
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President's Week.
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Feb 18, 2015 06:44
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Echo Chamber posted:We've known that for a day or two. It still sucks. Of all the current cast, she's the one who can best play both straight man and comic foil. From what it sounds like, even the support for her to take over TDS seat has led to movie and show opportunities. She'll likely be John's last big find.
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Feb 18, 2015 16:57
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My suggestion to fix TNS, if they really need to "show both sides", is to narrow it down to just Larry, and a debater from each side. Start off by having Larry clearly state his opinion/side on the matter and his reasons why. Then bring the debaters in clear soundproof cages that Larry can mute at will. Each debater, throughout the entire episode, would have a sign clearly stating what percentage of American opinion they represent (as a constant reminder which one's the crackpot). Each debater explains their case one on one with Larry, while their opposition is muted and cannot interrupt (but can visibly rage). Then, after each has a moment with Larry, they finally debate each other. At the end, Larry carries down his judgment and has the final authoritative word on the matter. In addition, on the side would be a panel of fact checkers who fact check every statement in real time, and inform Larry when bullshit is thrown out (they can make a big comedic deal about this). Thank you for reading my TNS fanfiction (sorry for interrupting your TDS fanfiction).
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Feb 18, 2015 17:56
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Tomero_the_Great posted:My suggestion to fix TNS, if they really need to "show both sides", is to narrow it down to just Larry, and a debater from each side.
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Tomero_the_Great posted:Each debater, throughout the entire episode, would have a sign clearly stating what percentage of American opinion they represent (as a constant reminder which one's the crackpot). There are far too many ignorant or misinformed Americans for this to work.
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