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Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
I'm actually kind of surprised he went through with breaking Aquarius' key. There were so many other non-boob choices.

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Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
Man, gently caress Grimoire Heart

cool name though

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP

Gyges posted:

I'm actually kind of surprised he went through with breaking Aquarius' key. There were so many other non-boob choices.

How sweet, you think she's actually gone. Although, thinking about it, if it turns out Lucy spent part of the timeskip repairing the key using her own power/training to do so, I will accept that.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
So do main villains get any cooler than Hades or is he pretty much the zenith

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Blockhouse posted:

So do main villains get any cooler than Hades or is he pretty much the zenith

I'm not even a particularly big fan of Hades, but I'd say he's still a better main villain than the ones that come afterward.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
I refuse to believe there's a villain worse than Brain/Zero

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Blockhouse posted:

So do main villains get any cooler than Hades or is he pretty much the zenith

Zeref is the big 'main' villain right? He's the one who 400 years ago hosed up the world and is just hanging around waiting for something to happen, and Aconolgia is just a different person with a different agenda and their paths occasionally cross.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Acnologia sounds great on paper. A dragon slayer who slayed too many dragons, turned into a dragon and then kept right on killing more dragons. That's dedication, there. In practice, he isn't terribly interesting.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

Kuroyama posted:

How sweet, you think she's actually gone. Although, thinking about it, if it turns out Lucy spent part of the timeskip repairing the key using her own power/training to do so, I will accept that.

Did they even tease that Aquarius was gone completely? I just took it as she is no longer summonable so she could stay angry in the celestial spirit world.

Kind of forgot that whole section after the king went :black101:

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Hades is about as cool as Fairy Tail villains get really.

sharktamer
Oct 30, 2011

Shark tamer ridiculous
What element is acnologia meant to be anyway? I was sure he was going to be Zeref's dragon and his element was "death", before we were told otherwise.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
Really though Brain/Zero was (were?) just the worst

Brain goes down like a chump because he underestimates a Wizard Saint, the thing everyone in the series knows not to do, even though his whole thing is being a smart guy, and Zero had no interesting visual gimmick or magic, he just hit a little harder than his minions and recycled Jellal's dark magic. Wowee.

On top of that there's no emotional attachment or anything really hateable about he/them. He has no personal connection to any of the characters, he's just some random jerkoff. Angel's Evil Lucy, Cobra's a Dragon Slayer, Midnight and Racer are super smug pricks. The worst thing Brain ever does is shoot Cobra while he's about to kill Natsu and Zero just snaps his weird talking staff in half.

In conclusion he sucks and I hate him.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Blockhouse posted:

Really though Brain/Zero was (were?) just the worst

Brain goes down like a chump because he underestimates a Wizard Saint, the thing everyone in the series knows not to do, even though his whole thing is being a smart guy, and Zero had no interesting visual gimmick or magic, he just hit a little harder than his minions and recycled Jellal's dark magic. Wowee.

On top of that there's no emotional attachment or anything really hateable about he/them. He has no personal connection to any of the characters, he's just some random jerkoff. Angel's Evil Lucy, Cobra's a Dragon Slayer, Midnight and Racer are super smug pricks. The worst thing Brain ever does is shoot Cobra while he's about to kill Natsu and Zero just snaps his weird talking staff in half.

In conclusion he sucks and I hate him.

Well you learn of some dickish things that Brain did later on with Ultear, but yeah he is not particularly interesting.

I do like Zeref more then Hades and I find the Demons of Tartarus rather cool.

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




Christ I can't follow this conversation at all. I must have the memory of a goldfish when it comes to this manga. Aside from Zeref I remember like none of these villains.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
Retroactively giving him a reason to be hated doesn't do a whole lot when he's not relevant to the story. (I'm assuming he doesn't come back in any capacity.)

U-DO Burger posted:

Christ I can't follow this conversation at all. I must have the memory of a goldfish when it comes to this manga. Aside from Zeref I remember like none of these villains.


if it helps I'm just now reading it for the first time

Silento
Feb 16, 2012

U-DO Burger posted:

Christ I can't follow this conversation at all. I must have the memory of a goldfish when it comes to this manga. Aside from Zeref I remember like none of these villains.

Yeah I stopped reading this manga months ago when I realized I couldn't remember most of the past arcs and that I didn't really care about the future arcs.

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010

Don't get it twisted who your enemies are.
Laxus was probably my favorite villain, personally. If we're specifically talking about the bossman leader types, that is.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

TriffTshngo posted:

Laxus was probably my favorite villain, personally. If we're specifically talking about the bossman leader types, that is.

That was probably one of the best arcs, really. High density of great Erza moments, to boot.

Zogundar
Dec 5, 2007
Man with all of these posts I wondered what on Earth had happened in the middle of the week. Was a new chapter of Zero out? The poo poo was about to hit the fan. Oh man, something amazing must have happene-

Oh, there's two chapters + 2 extras of Ice Trail out today.

*Ice Trail 7 + 8 Spoilers*
Oh it turns out Gray and Juvia had an almost-meeting as kids. :allears:
Oh it turns out Gray and Lucy also had an almost-meeting as kids. :allears:



..but then it turns out no one was even talking about that. It was all just a coincidence. :geno:

MonsterEnvy posted:

Well you learn of some dickish things that Brain did later on with Ultear, but yeah he is not particularly interesting.

I think that was only in the anime, so whether it's canon is questionable.

That said I wholly approve of the anime's decision to sneak back in the original decision to make Faust the Edolas Makarov. I still don't get why Mashima's editor wouldn't let him do that.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Zogundar posted:


I think that was only in the anime, so whether it's canon is questionable.

That said I wholly approve of the anime's decision to sneak back in the original decision to make Faust the Edolas Makarov. I still don't get why Mashima's editor wouldn't let him do that.

Well the the Zentopia religion arc is canon though it was exclusive to the anime. It was straight up said to have happened.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009
Speaking of. Does the anime ever stop using celtic style classic music for some of it's background music?

Cause it really works and I'd be kinda miffed if that stopped being a thing.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I didn't remember that thing about the King being Edolas Makarov so I looked it up and found out that the anime has an exclusive Edolas Gajeel, who is a 1920s newspaper critic.

That is loving radical.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Silento posted:

Yeah I stopped reading this manga months ago when I realized I couldn't remember most of the past arcs and that I didn't really care about the future arcs.

Wait, if you stopped reading the manga why are you still reading this thread?

Silento
Feb 16, 2012

SatansBestBuddy posted:

Wait, if you stopped reading the manga why are you still reading this thread?

I dunno. V:shobon:V Fairy Tail isn't a bad manga, I just don't care enough to read it week to week. I'm still a bit interested in what goes on.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Zogundar posted:

*Ice Trail 7 + 8 Spoilers*
Oh it turns out Gray and Juvia had an almost-meeting as kids. :allears:
Oh it turns out Gray and Lucy also had an almost-meeting as kids. :allears:


I'd probably have enjoyed that a lot more if the mangaka hadn't constantly danced around showing anyone's face until the last page. The panels constantly contriving to hide them like it was a big secret was annoying as gently caress given how blatant and obvious it was.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Silento posted:

I dunno. V:shobon:V Fairy Tail isn't a bad manga, I just don't care enough to read it week to week. I'm still a bit interested in what goes on.

The real problem with Fairy Tail is that there aren't enough dragons. Dude clearly just draws the gently caress out of things he likes, but for some reason he's reluctant to draw rad rear end dragons.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Mashima is good at making crazy character designs and powers and drawing kickass dragons.

...Kind of a shame about everything else.

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010

Don't get it twisted who your enemies are.
The gross fanservicey stuff I mostly dislike from a "I like cool fighting ladies, these are cool fighting ladies, but why do they also need to be naked so often" standpoint as opposed to a "ew gross cartoon boobs" one because honestly that poo poo doesn't even register with me so it seems bizarre when people take such issue with it. But I'm willing to ignore a certain amount of fanservice if the rest of the content is as punchy and fun and cool to look at as Fairy Tail.

Silento
Feb 16, 2012

I definitely can't criticize the fanservice too much without being a hypocrite because Negima is my favorite manga, but yeah it's annoying. It's fine if Lucy or whoever wear dumb outfits, but let Erza be above that. :colbert:

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good
I normally shrug off the fan service, but all the weird stripping humiliation poo poo that happened multiple times during the Grand Magic Games arc really put me off and I almost stopped reading.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
Maybe I just have crazy low standards but I'm really enjoying this series and I dunno what would possibly change th-

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

I normally shrug off the fan service, but all the weird stripping humiliation poo poo that happened multiple times during the Grand Magic Games arc really put me off and I almost stopped reading.

Oh.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009
Juvia vs Gray.

Just, Juvia vs Gray. :allears:

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Yeah I wish the fanservice in FT was just big boobs or juvia fapping in the shower or whatever "normal" stuff. I don't like it, but it doesn't rate with me beyond being funny or sometimes cute. This humiliation angle FT is starting to take is creepy and unsettling.

I don't read light-hearted stupid shonen with a shallow mud puddle of a plot to see grown women stripped naked and tortured for information.

Crampy Grampaw
Jan 29, 2009

Silento posted:

I definitely can't criticize the fanservice too much without being a hypocrite because Negima is my favorite manga, but yeah it's annoying. It's fine if Lucy or whoever wear dumb outfits, but let Erza be above that. :colbert:

Akamatsu learned 1/3 of the way through and dropped down to occasional panty shots (except with SA favorite Rakan who somehow never takes flak for it,) while FT has become increasingly gross with the angles and torture porn especially with Ezra, which is particularly egregious when she's supposed to be the strongest guild member but personality-wise has become a terrible female stereotype pining after Gellal and being S&Med naked twice in a row now. The highlight of FT was probably the arc that ended with a bunch of crystals and Ezra beating the crap out of a non-female opponent, and I doubt Mashima is going to reverse the trend when he's started the slow descent of even including Wendy in the fanservice menu after her being immune for the few years after she was introduced.

Suspicious Lump
Mar 11, 2004
The highlight of the last arc (has it ended?) was Natsu going bonkers on Mard Geer. Sadly it didn't mean much.

Something I just get tired of is the back and forth bullshit we constantly get in Shonen manga. It happen sometimes but it's fairly rare; when someone just completely dominates their opponent. None of "FRIENDSHIP" bullshit that FT and One Piece do a lot.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009
Just finished the tower of heaven arc. It took a while for me to get the whole thing about Erza's left eye being a prosthetic neat little detail there and given a1/Satelight's work ethic detail is thin on the ground.

I really appreciate the whole "don't sacrifice yourself for others. That's really stupid." line there too. Bout time some one gave that trope a beating.

ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Feb 25, 2015

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
It loses a lot of meaning coming from the guy who just went out of his way to do something so monumentally stupid it should have killed him in order to win. Turns it into more of a "That's MY job" type thing.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009

Gyges posted:

It loses a lot of meaning coming from the guy who just went out of his way to do something so monumentally stupid it should have killed him in order to win. Turns it into more of a "That's MY job" type thing.
You're talking about Natu eating the magicite, right? Eh, I don't think he was doing that as some grandiose "Lookit me! I'm gonna kill myself for my friends!" thing rather than a "Does this thing have fire? Probably, yeah, let's go with that."

Simon I'm more surprised he lasted that long and it at least fit with the theme they were for going for IE: Getting yourself killed, regardless of intent, is going to leave everyone loving miserable as it did Erza before with Rob and, now that I'm thinking about it, the whole todo with Gary and Ur

I can't think of one death that I've seen so far that hasn't been painted as leaving everyone a complete wreck at best and completely psychopathic at worst.

Edit; Oh and whilst I've got the floor, those random G Gundam Refrences in the fight with Taka came out of nowhere and I totaly appreciate them.

ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Feb 25, 2015

Thunderbro
Sep 1, 2008
this little girl and now actual cat fanservice is insanely loving creepy and too far even for a dumb teenager smut series

seriously gently caress this series it's gotten really :pedo:

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Simoom
Nov 30, 2009
Nothing has even changed, really. Wendy and Lucy took out some fodder before needing Natsu to come to the rescue. What was the point of the timeskip aside from getting to see Charle's rear end and give Lucy new fetish wear for future arcs

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