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Stravinsky
May 31, 2011

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Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
Who the hell orders off amazon

If you don't buy your books from a physical independent bookstore, clutch the hardback with your hands, and pay with paper money I doubt your seriousness as a reader.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Who the hell orders off amazon

If you don't buy your books from a physical independent bookstore, clutch the hardback with your hands, and pay with paper money I doubt your seriousness as a reader.

Real men get them from yard/estate/library sales

I got my Mann and Hesse collections started that way.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Effectronica posted:

Real men get them from yard/estate/library sales

I got my Mann and Hesse collections started that way.

That's great if you are a scavenger of literature seeking the already dessicated carcass of overanalyzed "classic" texts but us real reader prefer to discover great fiction before it has been certified by the lethargic hand of academia

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Mel Mudkiper posted:

That's great if you are a scavenger of literature seeking the already dessicated carcass of overanalyzed "classic" texts but us real reader prefer to discover great fiction before it has been certified by the lethargic hand of academia

gently caress fiction, I got a math book from the 30s after a chain smoking teacher retired. He just packed a bunch of books into a huge box one day, puffed a cloud of cigar smoke into our general direction and told us "You can just go ahead and take them, I won't need them anymore".

My thieving nature came through and I grabbed every old-looking book I could find. I think I still have that math book (from a "Professor Thompson") and a French to German dictionary I also transfered into my possession. Also a bunch of random school books I don't remember anymore.

The dictionary and the random crap proved utterly useless, but the 70+ year old math book let me go "Ah, I think I remember that from somewhere!" when failing through a math exam five years later. Good times.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Who the hell orders off amazon

If you don't buy your books from a physical independent bookstore, clutch the hardback with your hands, and pay with paper money I doubt your seriousness as a reader.

Because they don't have books in latin

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Effectronica posted:

Pre-Raphaelite poetry. It's a bug they're working on.

i bought nazi/soviet porn and now all amazon recommends is a revolver and a sign that says "kill yourself", please fix this bug amazon

Barlow
Nov 26, 2007
Write, speak, avenge, for ancient sufferings feel

Effectronica posted:

Real men get them from yard/estate/library sales
Book buyers seem to have ruined book sales forever. In the old days they needed to know the value of the books they were hunting but now wireless internet access means they just grab a cellphone scanner and scan everything. There is a disappointing lack of skill in that.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Barlow posted:

Book buyers seem to have ruined book sales forever. In the old days they needed to know the value of the books they were hunting but now wireless internet access means they just grab a cellphone scanner and scan everything. There is a disappointing lack of skill in that.

If it's really interesting (i.e. before old) it won't have a scan bar anyway. That said shopping for bargains at used bookstores has gotten harder. I used to be able to get things like a first edition Silmarillion hardback for $5 because the store owner didn't read fantasy.

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

the store owner didn't read fantasy.

So in a way he owned you.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Ras Het posted:

So in a way he owned you.

She, you gender presumptivist!

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
you read the silmarillion and yet you're in charge of a thread on good books? what a world

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

corn in the bible posted:

you read the silmarillion and yet you're in charge of a thread on good books? what a world

I liked it better when it was called the prose edda

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

She, you gender presumptivist!

You should've said "owneress".

mallamp
Nov 25, 2009

corn in the bible posted:

you read the silmarillion and yet you're in charge of a thread on good books? what a world
dude,this is somethingawful dot com

Jesustheastronaut!
Mar 9, 2014




Lipstick Apathy
Hey guys is Plato real literature? Is it worth the time?

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Jesustheastronaut! posted:

Hey guys is Plato real literature? Is it worth the time?

Yes and yes

Boatswain
May 29, 2012

Jesustheastronaut! posted:

Hey guys is Plato real literature? Is it worth the time?

Actually its only fiction if you read it in Greek.

Also, make sure to get an uncensored translation so that you don't miss out on how gay philosophy was.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

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Boatswain posted:

Also, make sure to get an uncensored translation so that you don't miss out on how gay philosophy was.

The Greeks? Surely you jest!

Barlow
Nov 26, 2007
Write, speak, avenge, for ancient sufferings feel

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

If it's really interesting (i.e. before old) it won't have a scan bar anyway.
A lot my local book sales got wise to that and put everything old without a scan bar in a "collectables" room with insanely high prices. Then you get the problem of a book being essentially worthless to anyone else, pretty interesting and being way overpriced.

twitter and bisted
Aug 26, 2012

I'm a crow and nothing human is avian to me

Jesustheastronaut! posted:

Hey guys is Plato real literature? Is it worth the time?

no and no

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*


whoa it's bizarro me

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010
I've started Marlon James's first novel "The Book of Night Women" after loving his Brief History of Seven Killings last year. It's set on a Jamaican plantation back in slavery days. It has an interesting thing going on where most of the characters are named after a figure from ancient mythology, with most of them being Greek & the main character being Lilith. I don't know how deep the significance of the naming is yet, but I love when authors do something like this.

The Alchemist
Dec 12, 2010
Dear diary: Today I got really loving told by an anime avatar.

CestMoi
Sep 16, 2011

It is really sad how dead this thread would be if Smoking Crow didn't like anime.

CestMoi
Sep 16, 2011

I'm reading INfinite Jest and it's ok?? I guess???? THere are some bits that are pretty cool and other bits that are kind of turds and the prevailing writing style is of the tuirds variety.

CestMoi
Sep 16, 2011

Someone please post the DFW fleshlight pic

WAY TO GO WAMPA!!
Oct 27, 2007

:slick: :slick: :slick: :slick:

CestMoi posted:

Someone please post the DFW fleshlight pic
?? :nws: ??


???

WAY TO GO WAMPA!!
Oct 27, 2007

:slick: :slick: :slick: :slick:
If I want to jump into Dostoyevsky should I start with Crime and Punishment or The Brothers Karamazov or something else? Both are burning a huge hole in my bookshelf.

Also, has anyone read Red Cavalry by Isaac Babel? There was an interview with Denis Johnson a little while ago about how Jesus' Son was heavily inspired by that and it sounds interesting, but I've never heard of this guy.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
I'd honestly start with either Notes from the Underground or The Idiot. I found them both easier than Brothers Karamazov.
Crime and Punishment is a good starting point too, I guess.
Red Cavalry is very well written and really brutal. It's a good book but can get difficult on the account of that.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Mar 2, 2015

CestMoi
Sep 16, 2011


Thank you WAY TO GO WAMPA!!.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

CestMoi posted:

It is really sad how dead this thread would be if Smoking Crow didn't like anime.



WAY TO GO WAMPA!!
Oct 27, 2007

:slick: :slick: :slick: :slick:

anilEhilated posted:

I'd honestly start with either Notes from the Underground or The Idiot. I found them both easier than Brothers Karamazov.
Crime and Punishment is a good starting point too, I guess.
Red Cavalry is very well written and really brutal. It's a good book but can get difficult on the account of that.
I was figuring one of those two since I own both already, but maybe I can grab The Idiot from someone.

Good to hear about Red Cavalry, though. It sounds interesting and I know next to nothing about Russian-anything (literature, history, etc) so I'm real curious about it.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

WAY TO GO WAMPA!! posted:

If I want to jump into Dostoyevsky should I start with Crime and Punishment or The Brothers Karamazov or something else? Both are burning a huge hole in my bookshelf.

Also, has anyone read Red Cavalry by Isaac Babel? There was an interview with Denis Johnson a little while ago about how Jesus' Son was heavily inspired by that and it sounds interesting, but I've never heard of this guy.

Crime and Punishment is his best book anyway, so read that.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
His best is either The Idiot or The Devils though I've not to read Brothers K so maybe that too.

david crosby
Mar 2, 2007

Mr. Squishy posted:

His best is either The Idiot or The Devils though I've not to read Brothers K so maybe that too.

its Bros. K

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

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Mr. Squishy posted:

I've not to read Brothers K so maybe that too.

That's by David James Duncan though














:v:

novamute
Jul 5, 2006

o o o

WAY TO GO WAMPA!! posted:

If I want to jump into Dostoyevsky should I start with Crime and Punishment or The Brothers Karamazov or something else? Both are burning a huge hole in my bookshelf.

Also, has anyone read Red Cavalry by Isaac Babel? There was an interview with Denis Johnson a little while ago about how Jesus' Son was heavily inspired by that and it sounds interesting, but I've never heard of this guy.

I'd recommend starting with The Brothers Karamazov. I read The Idiot and Notes from the Underground first and while independently they are great works they really aren't on the same level. I'd read Demons after The Brothers Karamazov and move on to The Idiot or Crime and Punishment after that.

As you can see from the widely varied recommendations so far this is probably going to come down a lot to personal preference though.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Does this thread's title just change every other day or something?

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Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Guy A. Person posted:

Does this thread's title just change every other day or something?

What do you mean? It's always been like this.

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