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GaussianCopula posted:At least the SPD no longer has an absolute majority and the FDP had a "victory". The FDP still exists? poo poo, I had hoped they'd finally been killed off for good. 
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Libluini posted:The FDP still exists? poo poo, I had hoped they'd finally been killed off for good. Like a phoenix out of ashes the FDP will rise to protect Germany against the danger of a SPD/Linke/Grüne coalition in 2017.
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Torrannor posted:^^e: That's great. http://wahl.tagesschau.de/wahlen/2015-02-15-LT-DE-HH/index.shtml Look at the percentages. The SPD lost 1,9%, the Linke gained 2,0%. The CDU lost 5,9% the AFD gained 5,8% Its basically both "Volksparteien" losing votes to their more extreme versions. Nothing new for the post 2000 SPD, but the CDU losing votes to the AFD is actually a new thing. I guess now that they have successfully absorbed the FDP voters, they need a new target. The best part of this is the SPD apparently celebrating this as a massive victory. "Woohoo, we held the status quo" I mean, they actually lost their absolute majority. It's really more of a mediocre result if anything. e X fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Feb 15, 2015 |
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Torrannor posted:^^e: That's great. My parents are now personally feeling how Ole hosed them by privatizing the hospitals, I guess they aren't alone.
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I always knew that the Catholic Church is rich, but the Cologne archdiocese has 3.35 billion Euro in wealth? That's impressive.
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Torrannor posted:I always knew that the Catholic Church is rich, but the Cologne archdiocese has 3.35 billion Euro in wealth? That's impressive. It exists for over 1200 years in one form or another, a lot of time to make money and more importantly get land/real estate. It's also important that the region was firmly catholic for the whole time, especially during the reformation, which prevented looting of their wealth by feudal lords.
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Torrannor posted:I always knew that the Catholic Church is rich, but the Cologne archdiocese has 3.35 billion Euro in wealth? That's impressive. To be fair it's not hard to make big money when you are a criminal conspiracy that has managed to get special protections from the law.
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Orange Devil posted:To be fair it's not hard to make big money when you are a criminal conspiracy that has managed to get special protections from the law.  I don't think it's too surprising - there is a lot of wealth to be accumulated when you have existed for at least 1700 years. And it's not like they're just sitting on it: the archdiocese gives two million € every day to its parishes, schools, kindergardens, libraries, charitable organisations etc. Could (and should!) they do more with their money? Yes. Is it particulary shocking that an institution as old (and fiscally conservative) as the archdiocese owns a lot of money? No.
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GaussianCopula posted:It exists for over 1200 years in one form or another, a lot of time to make money and more importantly get land/real estate. It's also important that the region was firmly catholic for the whole time, especially during the reformation, which prevented looting of their wealth by feudal lords. Well, also the fact that the Archdiocese of Cologne used to be the government of Cologne.
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They also saved a lot of money by not fighting wars, which is where most of the money historically went.
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ephex posted:Good thing the church doesn't pay any taxes in Germany They probably wouldn't have to pay corporate tears even if they weren't exempt due to most of their assets already being depreciated.
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ephex posted:Good thing the church doesn't pay any taxes in Germany Well that would be absurd, don't you know: In Germany, you pay taxes to the church. The church tax is collected by the state and then redistributed across the different major religions. Which is actually kind of neat, with the exception of atheists, everyone pays taxes for their own religion. Muslim organizations for example, are one of the groups next to the great Catholic and Protestant churches who get a part of the money.
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Only those that belong to a religious organization that make use of the tax scheme pay church tax, so it's not only atheist.
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In Austria the Church was granted the right to collect the tax itself.
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And here I am, ausgetreten aus der katholischen Kirche, and still paying for some dumb bishops salary. http://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/steuern-spenden-staatszuschuesse-so-finanziert-sich-die-katholische-kirche-1.1794296-3
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Randler posted:Wait there are Muslim groups that can have the state collect church taxes? The state isn't collecting church taxes out of the goodness of its heart; it is providing a service. A service for which it takes a ~3% cut (depending on the state). Any church that's a Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts can make use of that offer. Riso posted:In Austria the Church was granted the right to collect the tax itself. Churches in Germany are free to do that as well, but I guess the convenience of not having those good Christians cheat on how much they should be paying according to their income outweighs the 3% cut the state is keeping. Libluini posted:Well that would be absurd, don't you know: In Germany, you pay taxes to the church. The church tax is collected by the state and then redistributed across the different major religions. Which is actually kind of neat, with the exception of atheists, everyone pays taxes for their own religion. Muslim organizations for example, are one of the groups next to the great Catholic and Protestant churches who get a part of the money. I'm not sure if that's what you meant to say, but your post makes it sound like there's some kind of solidarity principle at work here. That's not the case; the state only 'redistributes' the money in so far as it takes money from someone who's registered as belonging to a certain faith, and then passes that money on to the church he's registered with. Badly Jester fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Badly Jester posted:The state isn't collecting church taxes out of the goodness of its heart; it is providing a service. A service for which it takes a ~3% cut (depending on the state). Any church that's a Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts can make use of that offer. Yeah and after a certain point, Muslim Imams took notice of this, so a lot of German mosques collect money from the state. Which in turn was collected by Church tax before. Edit: But it looks like my info is either out of date, or Wikipedia isn't reliable as a source. Welp, so take this with a grain of salt, but I read in a news article a year ago or something, about ~3-4% of the church tax goes to Muslim organizations. According to Wikipedia however, alot of Christian churches are freely renouncing their claims on church tax money. (They renounce it probably because of that cut.) Only one major German Muslim organization, the Hessian Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat, is directly mentioned in the Wikipedia article and they don't want state money, too. This makes me suspicious, because I can't believe they're the only recoginzed Muslim organization in Germany. We had large groups of Muslims here since the 60s, after all, so I have to go with my memory here instead of Wikipedia. Jews and Unitarier get tax money this way, too. The Orthodox church and many Protestant churches refuse to take the money. Except when not (see Unitarier). Holy poo poo this got complicated fast.  Badly Jester posted:I'm not sure if that's what you meant to say, but your post makes it sound like there's some kind of solidarity principle at work here. That's not the case; the state only 'redistributes' the money in so far as it takes money from someone who's registered as belonging to a certain faith, and then passes that money on to the church he's registered with. Most of my childhood I falsely believed only Christian churches could get money this way, so when I finally learned the truth, this colored my perception because redistribution of money for all registered religions instead of just one sounded a lot more "nice" and solidaritarian than I had expected from the state. Libluini fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Badly Jester posted:The state isn't collecting church taxes out of the goodness of its heart; it is providing a service. A service for which it takes a ~3% cut (depending on the state). Any church that's a Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts can make use of that offer. I know that. I just haven't heard of any Muslim congregation becoming corporate.
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This will be really hard to beat in the running for news story of the year:quote:Unbekannte stehlen im Neubau der BND-Zentrale Wasserhähne für 100 Euro - und richten damit Wasserschäden in Millionenhöhe an. [...] Unbemerkt vom Wachschutz schraubten der oder die Täter mehrere Wasserhähne in den oberen Etagen des Gebäudes in der Chausseestraße in Mitte ab. In der Folge sickerten große Mengen Wasser in die darunter liegenden Etagen und richteten erhebliche Schäden an. It's the best. Godspeed, noble tap thieves (I hope saying this doesn't get me The Visit).
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Smirr posted:This will be really hard to beat in the running for news story of the year:  Is the building already fitted out with custom-built electronics  ? I can't imagine a running tap doing millions in damage otherwise...
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Stay safe tap ghosts
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Would have never happened to the Stasi.
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Riso posted:Would have never happened to the Stasi. Mostly due to a severe lack of taps in East Germany...
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Yep, they only had wiretaps.
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Germans are not a protected group with regards to the Volksverhetzungs offence as Germans cannot be considered a part of the population in that context. Silly facebook kid.
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Mein Applet!!!
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He should invest in an iMac, apparently those are safe from prosecution.LawBlog posted:Die Wohnung meines Mandanten wurde gründlich durchsucht. Insbesondere hatten es die Beamten auf Datenträger abgesehen. Sie nahmen ein Notebook, mehrere USB-Sticks, eine externe Festplatte und etliche DVDs mit.
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Read his name in the uncensored picture, knew right away that he is from eastern germany. p.s. he likes "mein kampf" who would have thought
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elwood posted:Read his name in the uncensored picture, knew right away that he is from eastern germany. That's a lie, no-one likes that book, not even Hitler. (I know this because we had to read excerpts in school and it was the most boring, inane bullshit you could imagine.) Hitler: Sterile and lifeless art, tedious writing, excellent mass murderer.
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It's obvious that even the ghost-writer couldn't do much to rescue such a confused and bizarre set of thoughts.
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Libluini posted:Hitler: Sterile and lifeless art, tedious writing, excellent mass murderer. I liked him in that one Tarantino movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25F7VX1tsRg
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