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Oh man, are we posting our favorite clusterfuck Bay Area interchanges now? Awesome, I love this game. Here we have 101 south at Cesar Chavez in San Francisco. There are exits and onramps servicing both CC and Potrero, but the best part is that the freeway here is somewhat elevated. The onramp from C-C/Potrero onto southbound 101 comes up a steep slope, the two lanes merge (both lanes go into one lane, completely blind, seriously you have approximately 0.5 seconds to avoid an accident while making this merge) and then that lane merges straight onto S 101, again almost completely blind, right after the bottom of the picture:  Bonus! In one mile both right lanes exit to 280 south, so drivers are already merging right, while everyone merging on who doesn't want to go to 280 merges left across both lanes. Double-bonus! This is a 50mph zone where everyone does 70 except for random idiots doing 45, and even best! There is no left shoulder and the right shoulder is only there sometimes. Here we have the nation's shortest Interstate freeway: I-238, at just 2.126 miles. This freeway always sucks. The problem is, it is connecting 580 and 880. From this point east out to I-5, 580 permits big rigs, but they are not permitted on 580 west from here up through Oakland. So a huge percentage of the Bay Area's trucking comes down 880, including from the Port of Oakland, and then uses 238 to get onto 580 to go out to I-5. And vice-versa.  The southbound side of this freeway has a couple of places where multiple lanes merge down by one, and then you need to be in the right lane to get onto the 880s ramp, which is all of the trucks; so drivers in cars like to use the left lane to skip past trucks and then jam into the exit lane at the last second (right at 17B on this map), always a wonderful thing. In the opposite direction, traffic getting onto 238 from northbound 880 usually backs up onto 880, so the "right" thing to do is be in the right lane two or three miles in advance. Naturally drivers hate waiting in line so gently caress that, drive to the end and then cut off a semi with an 80,000 pound load, why the gently caress not! And then of course, I leave you without additional comment, The Maze.  
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gently caress, and I thought the 805 and 5 interchange was terrible in San Diego. 
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Feb 14, 2015 03:47
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The Aardvark posted:gently caress, and I thought the 805 and 5 interchange was terrible in San Diego. It's because people in the Bay Area are smarter and as a result can easily handle the more complex interchanges.
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Feb 14, 2015 03:48
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etalian posted:It's because people in the Bay Area are smarter and as a result can easily handle the more complex interchanges. I obviously don't understand the roads in San Diego because I'm on... I'm off. I'm on... I'm off. Or, I could drive on this nice surface street. The freeways here make no sense.
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Feb 14, 2015 04:01
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etalian posted:It's because people in the Bay Area are smarter and as a result can easily handle the more complex interchanges. It's funny because the traffic report has an accident just before the Bay Bridge Toll Plaza every...loving...day.
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Feb 14, 2015 04:07
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Papercut posted:It's funny because the traffic report has an accident just before the Bay Bridge Toll Plaza every...loving...day. That part is actually a recording.
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Feb 14, 2015 04:14
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And here I was going to bitch about the mild clusterfuck that is the 101 through downtown LA 
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Feb 14, 2015 06:41
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:My personal favorite intersection is the Rengstorff exit on 101 south. etalian posted:a costco, in-n-out and micky D's right next to each other, thanks for reminding that California is such a unique place ComradeCosmobot posted:I have no idea how they can ALL stay open.
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Feb 14, 2015 08:25
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FRINGE posted:Theres also a lot of SoCal lots where Taco Bell and McDonalds are side by side, or Burger King and McDonalds. Once you realize that Chik-fil-a is building all their new stores right next to In-n-Out burger you will never not notice that they're always right next to each other.
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Feb 14, 2015 08:36
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FCKGW posted:Once you realize that Chik-fil-a is building all their new stores right next to In-n-Out burger you will never not notice that they're always right next to each other. That explains the one which displaced the old Lee's across the bridge from my school.
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Feb 14, 2015 19:12
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Christians have to stick together to keep each other safe from sodomites and other vile California natives.
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Feb 14, 2015 19:41
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:That explains the one which displaced the old Lee's across the bridge from my school. Which used to be a Denny's before that. How the hell does a 24hour Denny's across from a university go out of business? In fact, how does a lee's go out of business in Irvine?
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Feb 14, 2015 21:49
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FCKGW posted:Which used to be a Denny's before that. How the hell does a 24hour Denny's across from a university go out of business? I have no clue why they suddenly vanished, they always seemed to have pretty decent business. Then again they're competing for a lot of Le Dip's customers. I sure miss those French cream horns and chicken pate buns, I'd take that over Chik-Fil-A any day of the week 
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Feb 14, 2015 21:51
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I'm guessing it was a sort of chi chis thing where they got totalled on some insurance thing.
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Feb 14, 2015 22:10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53GcLx1JLXY
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Feb 14, 2015 22:52
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In actual political news (not that I mind the traffic chat.  ) California has tentatively approved the Comcast-TWC merger, but it includes some interesting conditions for approval (skip to page 94: it gives a succinct 25 bullet point summary). Highlights include forced last-mile unbundling and requiring Comcast-TWC to agree to not oppose or fund opposition towards any development of municipal broadband networks. It's only for a period of five years, but Comcast has already put out a press release crying about how unfair these conditions are and how they'll somehow make things worse for customers, you know the usual stuff.
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Feb 15, 2015 03:15
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Hey if anyone knows what makes things worse for customers, it is Comcast.
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Feb 15, 2015 03:28
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A recently filed initiative attempt by backers of LA's condom-in-porn ordinance will extend the rule to apply to the entire state. If it makes it to the ballot, the requirement will very likely pass. An online poll of 1,158 California voters found that 71% would approve of such an initiative.
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Feb 20, 2015 04:17
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ComradeCosmobot posted:A recently filed initiative attempt by backers of LA's condom-in-porn ordinance will extend the rule to apply to the entire state. If it makes it to the ballot, the requirement will very likely pass. An online poll of 1,158 California voters found that 71% would approve of such an initiative. So...dumb people who don't understand that no one who watches porn wants to see condoms? Whats the Nevada analogue for San Fernando Valley? Way to Create Jobs 
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Feb 20, 2015 04:31
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Minarchist posted:Whats the Nevada analogue for San Fernando Valley? Tijuana?
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Minarchist posted:So...dumb people who don't understand that no one who watches porn wants to see condoms? Summerlin? Either way, CA is already losing its grip on the porn industry. Dark Priest, our resident goon porn producer, has mentioned that production has already moved to Vegas and other places. I wonder if this will affect the Gay Porn industry since it seems production uses protection more often than their heterosexual counterparts. Okuteru fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 04:48
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Minarchist posted:So...dumb people who don't understand that no one who watches porn wants to see condoms? Nevada, stealing Californian jobs and also cum since 1849
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Feb 20, 2015 06:01
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Also, while condom use is definitely the safest choice for your average workaday sexhaver, the mechanics of professional loving can make condoms a liability, since they can end up chafing in a way that can increase the likelihood of infection by opening up small tears in the skin/mucus membrane. Also condoms in porn are sort of like helmets in football – by mitigating some of the dangers inherent to the activity they encourage riskier behavior (like, say, having less frequent/rigorous screening for performers). The proposition system is so goddamn stupid.
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Feb 20, 2015 20:23
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I've never understood how porn can be legal while prostitution is illegal. Hey, you can't pay someone for sex! Oh, you're filming it? Well, that's alright then.
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Feb 20, 2015 20:26
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Leperflesh posted:I've never understood how porn can be legal while prostitution is illegal. Hey, you can't pay someone for sex! Oh, you're filming it? Well, that's alright then. It's barely different which is why it's been centered in a couple of areas that tolerate it. I'm not convinced that this rule is going to make everyone leave LA if they weren't already. Every company whines that they're moving/have moved whenever regulation happens. And there's a ton of technical crossover in LA like lighting, editing, sound, etc that's very convenient.
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Feb 20, 2015 20:31
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Zeitgueist posted:I'm not convinced that this rule is going to make everyone leave LA if they weren't already. Every company whines that they're moving/have moved whenever regulation happens. And there's a ton of technical crossover in LA like lighting, editing, sound, etc that's very convenient. It won't be as comfortable as calling up Bob and Discount Lighting and Jizzmops.
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So most people have probably heard, but the Raiders and Chargers are considering doing a dual stadium in LA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4pUrUcH0ic
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computer parts posted:So most people have probably heard, but the Raiders and Chargers are considering doing a dual stadium in LA. If you enjoy laughing at dumb people (and who doesn't?), be sure and read the comments sections of the San Diego Union Tribune articles about the Chargers' likely move to LA. Lots of normally anti-tax San Diegans furious that the city won't show the "leadership" to pump a billion dollars of city money into a boondoggle giveaway, people declaring that losing an NFL team will permanently cement S.D.'s status as a second-rate city (unlike dynamic cities of the future like Detroit, Baltimore, and Cleveland), and ruing all the economic growth that not having a single-use facility that's used eight days a year the city will be foregoing.
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FMguru posted:When a home team scores a touchdown, they can flare the refinery towers in celebration! I just moved to San Diego and when I moved, I knew that it was a fairly Conservative town. But really, no one wants to pay for anything. poo poo gets built because everyone in the community pays for it. Somehow, everyone around me is against any public spending. I moved here from Boise and I'm loving shocked at how conservative about government everyone is. Sure, people are open minded, but gently caress the government seems to be the rallying cry. How do these people think a city is built? Football stadiums are another matter, gently caress them. The god drat NFL/owners can pay for that poo poo. I guess it really does go to show how ignorant people are.
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Pohl posted:I just moved to San Diego and when I moved, I knew that it was a fairly Conservative town. But really, no one wants to pay for anything. poo poo gets built because everyone in the community pays for it. Somehow, everyone around me is against any public spending. I moved here from Boise and I'm loving shocked at how conservative about government everyone is. Sure, people are open minded, but gently caress the government seems to be the rallying cry. The great irony of the anti-government spending attitude in San Diego is of course that San Diego's economy is heavily reliant on defense spending.
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Trabisnikof posted:The great irony of the anti-government spending attitude in San Diego is of course that San Diego's economy is heavily reliant on defense spending. Yeah due to quality of the harbor, it has the biggest US naval base on the west coast.
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Pohl posted:I just moved to San Diego and when I moved, I knew that it was a fairly Conservative town. But really, no one wants to pay for anything. poo poo gets built because everyone in the community pays for it. Somehow, everyone around me is against any public spending. I moved here from Boise and I'm loving shocked at how conservative about government everyone is. Sure, people are open minded, but gently caress the government seems to be the rallying cry. Nope. The measure failed. Four years later, the fires returned, and did another shitload of damage. Never, ever, ever underestimate the unwillingness of San Diegans to pay taxes for anything, no matter how vital.
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FMguru posted:In Octpber 2003, San Diego was hit with a catastrophic series of firestorms. Thousands of houses destroyed and more than a dozen people were killed. One of the contributing factors was the antiquated equipment that the understaffed county fire response was using. Like, 1950s Civil Defense hand-me-downs for the communication system. The county had no air tankers or helicopters, figuring they could always borrow them from the state or National Guard (they could, unless there were a whole lot of fires across the west, when all the planes were busy fighting fires for their primary owners). Just a total catastrophe, and an undeniable example of how San Diego's penny-wise pound-foolish anti-tax mania can lead to horrible long term consequences. But! By coincidence, there was a measure on the ballot the next month to upgrade the county's equipment and give them enough money to hire a couple of planes full-time and maybe hire some additional personnel. Surely, with charred bodies still being buried and smoke still hanging in the air, even San Diegans would see fit to maybe take a couple of nickels out of their pockets and put them towards protecting themselves from the inevitable next season of firestorms? The city also has a parade of failed mayors over the last 20 years with criminal charges in everything from corruption to sexual harassment.
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Feb 21, 2015 19:28
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etalian posted:The city also has a parade of failed mayors over the last 20 years with criminal charges in everything from corruption to sexual harassment. Pete Wilson has been a thorn in the side of California Republicans when it comes to courting Hispanic voters.
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Forceholy posted:Pete Wilson has been a thorn in the side of California Republicans when it comes to courting Hispanic voters. It's a weird spocks beard city, sort of similar to Colorado Springs in Denver, aka overrun with piles of loud conservative former military type people.
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Forceholy posted:Pete Wilson has been a thorn in the side of California Republicans when it comes to courting Hispanic voters. He shows up outside the window whispering "La Miiiiiiiiiigrraaaaaaa"
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FilthyImp posted:My entire generation will raise our mocosos with stories of Pete (pito) Wilson coming after them in their sleep. He also gets bonus points for helping to setup the whole embarrassing california energy crisis, then throwing Grey Davis under the bus. Even though the biggest root of the problem IMO was how Wilson got paid by lobbyists from respected companies like Enron to help deregulate the utility business http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,237028,00.html quote:The answer is buried deep in the tangle that is California's energy crisis. Here's how it started: Back in 1996, lobbied by Enron and other energy interests, the state (under then Governor Pete Wilson, a Republican) decided to loosen its hold on electricity production. Responsibility for matching supply and demand was handed over in 1998 to an Independent System Operator (ISO), which would buy from providers (like Enron, Calpine and Dynegy) and sell to middlemen (companies like Pacific Gas & Electric) as necessary, even paying providers to take excess electricity out of the state at times when supplies were flush. And if the markets got too rough? Never fear; price caps were in place.
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etalian posted:Yeah due to quality of the harbor, it has the biggest US naval base on the west coast. Works both ways. San Francisco is a fantastic bay, but the political support wasn't there, so well...brac's a bitch is you're a liberal democrat.
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etalian posted:He also gets bonus points for helping to setup the whole embarrassing california energy crisis, then throwing Grey Davis under the bus. Root? It was the whole problem, entirely. Our whole energy market was manipulated, regulations and various laws (state & federal) were broken, and it wasn't until after the Enron bankruptcy that poo poo started to really be investigated. The media spent the whole time blaming the state, and sadly Gray Davis wasn't nearly vocal nor apparently his administration smart enough to realize there was something seriously wrong in the market and start hauling companies in to account for what was happening. There's idiots out there who still believe that it was because we didn't build new plants (.. we expanded them more than enough). We could produce plenty, but capacity was deliberately taken offline, energy was bought in the state and sold out of the state, as well as other poo poo to deliberately jack the spot price to the stratosphere. We haven't had major blackouts (although there are days where PG&E will pay industries with generators to run them during peak demand) despite our ridiculously low reservoir levels and our continued energy policy in the ensuing time.. not that it matters. The whole thing is basically Pete Wilson's last 'gently caress you' to the state, selling it out to business interests in loving Texas. There's lots of good articles and other information out there that detail the whole affair, and it's basically Republican Capitalism at it's finest. I love how a good chunk of our state debt goes back to that incident.
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Coincidentally, $800m is also the projected infrastructure spending shortfall for the City of San Diego. Hmmm, repair our roads and crumbling infrastructure orrrrrr we could keep the nitwit Chargers around for another couple of years. What to do, what to do...
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