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I'd imagine a great deal is going to turn on the marks on Robin Bain's fingers, which were discovered after the retrial from memory. They were largely dismissed at the time by the Police so it will be interesting to see what weighting is given to them.
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Feb 20, 2015 08:40
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I understand the reasoning for that higher benchmark to receive compensation, but the guy still spent 13 years in prison and had nothing but charity to rely on when he got out. eesh.
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Feb 20, 2015 08:49
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any bets on how long it takes for a new picture of John Keys with Brendon McCullum to show up? McCullum did really well in the cricket today
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Feb 20, 2015 08:51
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RM has Labour at 30%, highest since July last year http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6078-roy-morgan-new-zealand-february-voting-intention-201502200720
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Feb 20, 2015 09:33
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poo poo that av 
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Feb 20, 2015 10:34
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It's huge and terrifying and implies an uncropped face size:screen area ratio that I'm uncomfortable with.
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Feb 20, 2015 11:09
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This face is probably the #1 reason I can't stand John Key. so...smug.
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Feb 20, 2015 11:42
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Laverna posted:This face is probably the #1 reason I can't stand John Key. it's my fave photo of him, so good.
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Feb 20, 2015 12:55
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Vagabundo posted:And speaking of "evidence both ways," I've wondered if people in the legal profession feel that his retrial a few years ago where he was found "not guilty" was, in fact, a fair trial? I remember feeling sceptical of the possibility at the time due to the amount of literature relating to the Bain case that had been published and the frequent coverage that it got from time to time, not to mention that pretty much everyone had a firm belief in his guilt or innocence. Martin Van Beynen's account of the second trial is regarded as the best explanation for what happened. http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/2518912/Plenty-of-doubt-in-Bain-jurys-verdict quote:The verdict surprised me, but should not have. If the case had been put to 10 juries, I believe six would have convicted, two would have acquitted and two would have been unable to reach a decision. Bain won the lottery.
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Feb 21, 2015 00:09
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I remember hearing about the two jurors turning up to Bain's party after the trial, but gently caress me, that's even worse.
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Feb 21, 2015 00:23
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 wow that is...not good.
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Feb 21, 2015 04:05
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That really worried me as well. There's definitely issues with the jury system, and retrials like Bain's are a perfect demonstration of some of the faults in that system. Still, there was reasonable doubt at the second trial I think. Probably. Hard to be certain without being in the courtroom for the whole trial. The first trial I was still a kid during, and although I read up on it later, by then all the coverage was pretty biased one way or another so not sure if it was the correct outcome at that time or not. The Karam book I remember gave me nightmares - it had colour photos of two of the victims post-death.
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Feb 21, 2015 04:23
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How about them Dirty Politics huh? Luigi Wewege has resurfaced in Ireland as a dodgy mortgage lender And the Herald has this piece revealing a dinner with John Key and Donghua Liu, with a helpful timeline (which for some reason doesn't mention that disappearing $100k bottle of wine and the signed affidavit that the Herald totally had)
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Feb 21, 2015 04:36
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Feb 21, 2015 22:43
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pride parade is only about seeming to support queer community now, apparently (while protesting the inclusion of DOC and police, a Maori trans woman had her arm broken by police or security at the parade) voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Feb 22, 2015 |
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Feb 22, 2015 00:37
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fong posted:pride parade is only about seeming to support queer community now, apparently http://www.nzherald.co.nz/life-style/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503081&gal_cid=1503081&gallery_id=148211 going off this i would say its probably security
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Feb 22, 2015 01:25
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fong posted:any bets on how long it takes for a new picture of John Keys with Brendon McCullum to show up? Nah, someone in the young nats will just photoshop Key into a McCullum photo and release it on facebook as 'fact'
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Feb 22, 2015 02:02
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmxHRsD48L0
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Feb 22, 2015 03:00
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This is one of those gently caress-ups that wouldn't have happened if someone in the Nats asked a really obvious question, jesus christ. It's not like there aren't Nats who did vote for marriage equality that they could have sent instead.
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Feb 22, 2015 03:31
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You say that like they wouldn't have personally chosen to attend in order to accrue social credit they could cash in later for reelection. Tourettes is also pretty legit.
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Feb 22, 2015 04:28
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Ghostlight posted:You say that like they wouldn't have personally chosen to attend in order to accrue social credit they could cash in later for reelection. Running a party well means not allowing MPs to attend events celebrating people that they happen to think should have less human rights than others. Not sure what Alfred Ngaro was trying to achieve there, he's supposed to be building his profile in West Auckland. But it's something that should have been communicated from the party - or at least Nikki Kaye should have pulled them up on it. It reflects kind of badly on her for not doing so tbh. If they are going to turn around and say "Yea, we were wrong about the marriage amendment legislation, it's a good thing and we should have voted for it" then there's no real problem with them going. But otherwise it's incredibly transparent. E: Also, ATM vandalised in Ponsonby was by a group who wanted to protest against pink washing. http://hashtag500words.com/2015/02/21/political-statement-regarding-vandalism-of-gaytm/ Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Feb 22, 2015 |
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Feb 22, 2015 04:37
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fong posted:pride parade is only about seeming to support queer community now, apparently Shouldn't the queer community be allowed to have a pride parade that is a safe space? This angry 6-foot plus protestor jumping the barriers before screaming and fighting with security left many participants literally shaking. Hope these idiots are prosecuted. dusty fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Feb 22, 2015 |
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Feb 22, 2015 09:00
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Butt Wizard posted:Running a party well means not allowing MPs to attend events celebrating people that they happen to think should have less human rights than others. Not sure what Alfred Ngaro was trying to achieve there, he's supposed to be building his profile in West Auckland. But it's something that should have been communicated from the party - or at least Nikki Kaye should have pulled them up on it. It reflects kind of badly on her for not doing so tbh. Alfred Ngaro's the guy who allegedly hit a school teacher for not praying, so I doubt he just voted against on behalf of his constituency. The GayTM thing is so dumb, they chose the lightest-possible shade of pink & relied on a single poster to explain (which either fell on the ground or was concealed by ANZ). dusty posted:Shouldn't the queer community be allowed to have a pride parade that is a safe space? This angry 6-foot plus protestor jumping the barriers before screaming and fighting with security left many participants literally shaking.  no one was 6 foot and no one tried to fight with security. The only one who got arrested was the person who filmed what happened to the protestor.
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Feb 22, 2015 09:21
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Exclamation Marx posted:
The footage on the news is all faked, you sheeple. Do not believe your eyes
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Feb 22, 2015 09:26
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Exclamation Marx posted:The only one who got arrested was the person who filmed what happened to the protestor. Oh yeah that makes it better.
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Feb 22, 2015 09:29
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dusty posted:The footage on the news is all faked, you sheeple. Do not believe your eyes there's no way she's 6 ft BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Oh yeah that makes it better. I was just pointing out that dusty's fantasy probably wasn't going to happen!
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Feb 22, 2015 09:42
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And then Linda Cooper, councilwoman:
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Feb 22, 2015 09:58
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5'10"? A foot taller than that little tubby woman, shorter than the guard.quote:I was just pointing out that dusty's fantasy probably wasn't going to happen!
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Feb 22, 2015 10:03
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Smithersnz posted:And then Linda Cooper, councilwoman: Haha amazing
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Feb 22, 2015 11:06
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dusty posted:I have enjoyed the SJW groupthinking on twitter that protestors should be allowed to violently disrupt queer spaces.
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Feb 22, 2015 11:14
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dusty posted:5'10"? A foot taller than that little tubby woman, shorter than the guard. True good looking out bro. I mean they would've been totally within their rights to break a man's arm, so really this is just equality.
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Feb 22, 2015 11:26
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dusty posted:left many participants literally shaking. Was this before or after they logged back into tumblr?
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Feb 22, 2015 12:26
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Smithersnz posted:And then Linda Cooper, councilwoman: Sometimes difficult choices have to made. Like denying people equality for the sake of the greater good.
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Feb 22, 2015 13:02
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Butt Wizard posted:Running a party well means not allowing MPs to attend events celebrating people that they happen to think should have less human rights than others. Not sure what Alfred Ngaro was trying to achieve there, he's supposed to be building his profile in West Auckland. But it's something that should have been communicated from the party - or at least Nikki Kaye should have pulled them up on it. It reflects kind of badly on her for not doing so tbh. I thought that pinkwashing was making things pink for breast cancer, so was a bit confused by this. Turns out it is both breast cancer and LGBT related. (why not rainbow washing? who knows?)
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Feb 22, 2015 19:01
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It probably was originally but then someone discovered you can't get rainbow in a pail from resene.
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Feb 22, 2015 19:04
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Smithersnz posted:And then Linda Cooper, councilwoman: It is all ok apparently because she meant he was being a righteous rooster and not a reference to anatomy as everyone who was not trying to backtrack from saying something like that would assume. http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/66525837/Councillor-issues-apology-after-name-calling
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Feb 23, 2015 00:38
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Varkk posted:It is all ok apparently because she meant he was being a righteous rooster and not a reference to anatomy as everyone who was not trying to backtrack from saying something like that would assume. A baby Key is born!!!!! NATGRATULATIONS!
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Feb 23, 2015 00:40
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quote:"Do we need to persecute them forever for exercising their conscience vote or do we move on happy in the knowledge that the gay members of our community have this equal right?" Holy poo poo, how thick can one human be?
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Feb 23, 2015 01:24
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The inherent racism in assuming that korean and pacific island constituents are homophobic also
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Feb 23, 2015 01:29
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Lol jokes I wasn't even oppressing you as subhuman. Smile for the western leader! 
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