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Your handy guide to Pope David Pope is a political cartoonist whose work in The Canberra Times has frequently made both AusPol and the Political Cartoons thread go all  ,I don't know a Plebiscite from a Platypus, how am I going to get enjoyment from your strange Upside Down colour pictures? This post will contain a Who/What/Why of Pope's common caricatures, so you can play along at home, it will fill out in time. I've never played Knifey-Spoony before, what the bloody hell is going on? I'll mention Things that Happened as well as any more peculiar cultural references under the relevant cartoons. I might miss some Local Canberra Things, as I live in the Middle of Nowhere. Anyone who wants to fill out more detail on a subject is welcome to do so, and if I get something wrong you can point that out too. I'll be posting in chronological order with 5 cartoons per post. These people run our country  Tony Abbott: Prime Minister of Australia.  Joe Hockey: Treasurer. National Budgets have layers.  Mattias Corrman: Senator with a Germanic accent who said something about "economic girlie-men"  Malcolm Turnbull: Minister for Tin Cans and Pieces of String because why replace the copper network with optical fiber now, when you can do it in twenty years time! Zetsubou-san fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Feb 18, 2015 |
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 Pope 21/10/14 ~ 25/10/14 1Mattias Corrman cribs off of Arnie  2Former Prime Minister Gough Whitlam dies  3That same day, the Australian Federal Police closes its case on the Balibo Five.  4Tony Abbott toys with the Renewable Energy Target  5  Tony Abbott and Christopher Pyne explain their plan for University Education. After Mr. Squiggle, a beloved Australian kid's show that ran for forty years. Any Australian who was a kid back when it was on will know what a sing-song cry of "Upside Down, Upside Down!" is referring to.
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Feb 18, 2015 16:49
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Pope 28/10/14 ~ 31/10/14 1Scottt Morisson and Operation Sovereign Borders and the lurking presence of John Howard  2Tony Abbott doesn't like Greens or measures that force people who either dig coal up or burn it to pay for the privilege.  3A Thing Happened!  4Thing 2: Thing Harder  5Do Turnbulls Dream of Metadata Retention?
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Feb 18, 2015 16:53
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Australian comics are loving amazing, and I thought the British had it mastered.
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Feb 18, 2015 20:42
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Does Pope ever do cartoons on international news? I like Australian ones, but even with context, I always feel like I'm missing something.
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Feb 18, 2015 22:36
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the grotesque he makes out of tony abbott is completely amazing
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Feb 19, 2015 00:42
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Welcome Aus-toons! Guardian:  "Martin Rowson on the Daily Telegraph's coverage of the HSBC files – The Daily Telegraph’s former chief political commentator, Peter Oborne, has called for an independent inquiry into the paper’s editorial guidelines over its lack of coverage of the HSBC tax story, which he described as a “fraud on its readers”" Telegraph:  Limpet teeth set new strength record; Ukraine conflict: Poroshenko calls for UN peacekeepers Independent:  Mail: Mac on... Church of England's 'shopping list' of left-wing policies (pdf link)  'Altogether now. One more time!... "We'll keep the red flag flying here..."'
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Feb 19, 2015 01:41
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Paladinus posted:Does Pope ever do cartoons on international news? I like Australian ones, but even with context, I always feel like I'm missing something. The Canberra Times' archive page for Pope was culled to only the last 21 cartoons last night so.. er.. You're in luck! David Pope 8/1/15 ~ 13/1/15 (plus a bonus from 15/7/14) 1Tony Abbott resolves the problem about the Occupied Territories And some Charlie Hebdo  2 3 4 5
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Feb 19, 2015 05:48
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IS "Bloggo" is the Australian word for blog? A good cartoon
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Feb 19, 2015 14:05
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Mousepractice posted:IS "Bloggo" is the Australian word for blog? This is (obviously) an old one that has come up before in the main politoons thread. The other three posters are playing off the title of Charlie Hebdo.
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Feb 19, 2015 15:28
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This is really good, I wish it had been posted when we had that discussion about Rowson's Hebdo cartoon, it puts the point on the marching leaders hypocrisy much more plainly. More Australian stuff thanks.
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Feb 20, 2015 00:39
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Guardian: "Martin Rowson on Michael Fallon and Russia – Defence secretary Michael Fallon has warned that the Baltic republics – Nato members Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania – could be next to face Russian aggression" Independent:  RAF jets scrambled after Russian bombers seen off Cornwall Yesterday's Times:  Times:  Yesterday's Mail: Mac on... one-way space mission Mars One  Mail: Mac on... racist football thugs in Paris 
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Feb 20, 2015 01:23
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Strayan Cartoons? Strayan Cartoons! Now, obviously Pope is a National Treasure and in a league of his own, and to expect all Australian cartoonists to be of his calibre is to expect all British cartoonists to be a Rowson or Bell. But there are definitely other good ones, and I'd like to follow up with a cartoonist from the Best State, Tasmania, Jon Kudelka. He draws for the Australian Financial Review and the Hobart Mercury. He also recently released a book about the Tasmanian Whisky industry along with First Dog On The Moon, who the Auspol Crew has extremely ambivalent feelings toward. Here's a few of his recent ones!  The government has proposed scrapping the census to save money, at the same time as it plans to pour dollars into an expensive and intrusive mandatory data retention scheme.  Abbott faces a leadership crisis of his own making.  IF YOU DON'T DRAW MOHAMMED THE TERRORISTS WIN  The Tasmanian state government recently attempted a sweeping expansion of defamation laws which would have allowed corporations to sue for defamation against anything which caused a loss of profits, whether true or not. It was pretty transparently designed to aid their vested interests in the forestry industry, which is a massive cargo cult among Taswegian conservatives. (They recently backed off from these laws, thankfully).  PUP - the Palmer United Party - burst onto the Australian political scene two years ago in an explosion of dodgy preference deals, bizarre populism and an eccentric coal billionare's money and leadership. Predictably, they have been tearing themselves apart and rocketing into irrelevance ever since actually getting elected.  One of the PUPs, Jacqui Lambie, believes the Burqa should be banned and says so loudly at every possible opportunity (which also tends to be an opportunity for her to reveal just how little she actually understands about Islam). She has since left the party and sits as an independent.  Naturally, after the non-debate around Burqas was opened up again, Australia saw a cavalcade of dipshits trying to enter secure areas with facial coverings because Muh Freedomz. Because Australia is a racist country.  Gough Whitlam, former Prime Minister of Australia, founder of large swathes of the modern welfare state and a near-universally beloved figure on the left, died last year. Think of him as an Australian Clement Atlee. The current ALP is a shadow of its former self and the current leader, Bill Shorten (essentially, yes, an Australian Miliband) has less charisma then several plastic bags I've had the pleasure of meeting. This is, I would imagine, not a difficult situation for y'all to empathise with.
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Feb 20, 2015 02:03
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And polls pick Bill Shorten over Tony Abbott as preferred PM at the moment.
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Feb 20, 2015 02:44
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Cloud Potato posted:Mail: Quite possibly the most progressive Mac has ever been.
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Feb 20, 2015 02:55
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Zetsubou-san posted:And polls pick Bill Shorten over Tony Abbott as preferred PM at the moment. This is because while Shorten may have the charisma of a plastic bag, Tony's can be better equated to explosive diarrhea.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:09
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nuzak posted:the grotesque he makes out of tony abbott is completely amazing I dug around and found some of the ones that got removed from the official archive and this batch features various versions of Abbott. David Pope circa November 2014 (plus a bonus from Boxing Day) 1Tony Abbott shoots the breeze with fellow chums (L to R) Paul Keating, Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard, John Howard, Bob Hawke and Malcolm Fraser. Basically, every Primer Minister after the recently departed Gough Whitlam.  2Tony "Mature Government" Abbott considering economics while leaks are coming from Luxembourg. The GST is kinda like the VAT, Abbott talking about extra tax for people while companies avoid paying any way they can get away with.  3Some more Renewable Energy Target stuff. It's conceivable that the wombat is Bill Shorten.  4Parliment takes a break for the Christmas Period. The Winged Keel is a reference to Australia's 1983 America's Cup win. in the 'canoe' (L to R) Scott Morrison, Julie Bishop, Joe Hockey, Malcolm Turnbull, Someone who could be (then current) Defense Minister David Johnston, and finally Christopher Pyne  5Tony Hobbit with special guest metal implement Greg Hunt. Minister for the Environment
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Feb 20, 2015 10:17
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quote:Mail:
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Feb 20, 2015 11:54
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SeekOtherCandidate posted:He also recently released a book about the Tasmanian Whisky industry along with First Dog On The Moon, who the Auspol Crew has extremely ambivalent feelings toward. tlee.
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Feb 20, 2015 11:58
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Zephro posted:What's the deal with First Dog on the Moon, out of interest? The stuff I've seen in the Guardian seems OK. My opinion is he's alright, can't draw especially well but more often than not makes up for it with well-placed humourous substitution, and uses too many words. The opinion of others is that there are way, way too many words and the scribbles are there to distract you because you wouldn't read a couple of paragraphs of this stuff. Every now and then he comes up with an absolute stunner, though. Career-wise he was at Crikey for years before being picked up by The Guardian when they started their Australian site a year or two back. Some of the more internationally-relevant stuff ends up in the UK Guardian as well.
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Feb 20, 2015 12:13
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Pesky Splinter posted:Quite possibly the most progressive Mac has ever been. I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse, because the fact that he is able to means that the previous minstrels were a deliberate choice and not just the only way he knew how to draw black people.
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Feb 20, 2015 16:42
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Cloud Potato posted:Mail: Urrgh moron doesn't translate it should be "je suis crétin"* because cretin is a word that works in both languages  *which is also not grammatically correct but ssh
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Feb 20, 2015 17:56
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Well, they are morons after all.
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Feb 20, 2015 17:59
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Zetsubou-san posted:
Found some more info on this: quote:A central problem is that Abbott is not good on his feet. It’s not surprising that Credlin tries to keep him on a tight leash. When he speaks off the cuff he can say things that are controversial, including his comment last year that Australia was unsettled, or scarcely settled, before the British arrived. from an article in The Australian newspaper that behind a paywall, but if you click the top link in this google search you should be able to bypass it.
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Feb 20, 2015 18:32
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SeekOtherCandidate posted:My opinion is he's alright, can't draw especially well but more often than not makes up for it with well-placed humourous substitution, and uses too many words. The opinion of others is that there are way, way too many words and the scribbles are there to distract you because you wouldn't read a couple of paragraphs of this stuff. Every now and then he comes up with an absolute stunner, though. I like Dog  It's really more of a webcomic, illustrating a story or a narrative or something. The drawings are usually pretty charming, they have a lot of character and emotion which is a skill in itself - contrast that with Thomas's cut&paste pod people whose range is either looking sideways at someone or staring into the abyss, occasionally smiling or with angry eyebrows drawn onSpeaking of, Thomas's birds/bird jokes twitter now says "former political cartoonist for national newspaper" so it's definitely for real. And what a great one to go out on!
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Feb 20, 2015 19:29
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I like that Thomas has gone.
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Feb 20, 2015 20:37
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Zetsubou-san posted:And polls pick Bill Shorten over Tony Abbott as preferred PM at the moment. Mr Shorten’s comments were also slammed by Liberal MP Andrew Nikolic, who served as a brigadier in the Australian Army in Afghanistan. “I am appalled by Mr Hicks’ actions,’’ he said. “I am also troubled by the failure of the Leader of the Opposition to call him out on it.” The Liberal Party is the party of common sense. You can't change horses mid-stream.
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Feb 21, 2015 06:01
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even when the horse is drowning edit: i seem to have picked up a barnacle Zetsubou-san fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Feb 21, 2015 |
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Feb 21, 2015 10:42
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David Pope is on holidays! 30/1/15 ~ 4/1/15 1Malcolm Turnbull sums up the past year  2Warren Truss (leader of the National Party) riding the Coalition into the new year.  3Nick Xenophon offers a tale of two leaders. The ball is leadership of the opposition. Yes, the fact the roles are reversed is significant  4Christopher Pyne draws up some wish fulfillment. "Re-balancing" the school curriculum was a thing in October, and a Govt.-commissioned report did suggest cutting back on teaching about Indigenous history  5Christine Milne didn't make the deadline so all we have is unfinished sketches.
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Feb 21, 2015 14:12
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Thomas has gone so we've replaced him in the thread with about 50 mostly irrelevant Australian cartoons for some reason. Who's idea was that?
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Feb 21, 2015 16:53
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Guardian: "Martin Rowson on the Greek bailout – Eurozone finance ministers have reached a deal to resolve the Greek bailout impasse after a frantic round of diplomacy in Brussels" Yesterday's Telegraph:  Telegraph:  Ed Miliband sounds like a 'public schoolboy' Independent:  After Millais. Tomorrow's Independent on Sunday:  Times:  Stephen Collins:  
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Feb 21, 2015 19:17
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Better vote for the actual public schoolboy instead.
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Feb 21, 2015 19:25
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Cloud Potato posted:Tomorrow's Independent on Sunday: This is actually very symbolic as Merkel is trying to keep Greece from doing more damage to itself while Hollande is trying to keep the rabid bear of Russia away from a weakened Greece. The column realises this and knows that the only way to stop the Angry bear is to destroy itself by landing on the Putish bear's head, rendering it weak and concussed while sacrificing itself for the better good of europe. Meanwhile Cameron stands there looking like a useless twat as always.
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Feb 21, 2015 19:36
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So why does he have a whippet and a flat cap?
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Feb 21, 2015 19:50
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BastardySkull posted:Thomas has gone so we've replaced him in the thread with about 50 mostly irrelevant Australian cartoons for some reason. Who's idea was that? Let's get the Canadian ones in here too and go for a full-blown Commonwealth Cartoons thread.
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Feb 21, 2015 20:05
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I kind of miss Thomas to be honest. There was something almost endearing about how awful in every possible way his cartoons were.
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Feb 21, 2015 20:11
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Pesky Splinter posted:Quite possibly the most progressive Mac has ever been. And yet he still imagines the chelsea fans (who afforded paris tickets for an away game) as fat, unshaved (read: w/c) racists  look at him. you can smell the gap year twat a mile off
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Zephro posted:So why does he have a whippet and a flat cap? I imagine that's him trying to appear working class, in that largely fictional and patronising way that Telegraph readers see the working class
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Guavanaut posted:Better vote for the actual public schoolboy instead. speaking of portrayals of the working class, this cartoon, wow (also ed milliband is basically a public schoolboy, come on. I don't even think he's had to pay rent on his house in central)
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nuzak posted:(also ed milliband is basically a public schoolboy, come on. I don't even think he's had to pay rent on his house in central) nuzak posted:
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