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The Mighty Biscuit posted:But they are soulless. Every single highway man has the same lines as every other highway man. There is nothing unique about any of your lepers. Steve the Plague Doctor and Bill the Plague Doctor are basically the same person. Let's go make tons of unique lines for Dismas; so everyone can not ever hear them when he dies in the tutorial.
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Apple2o posted:Let's go make tons of unique lines for Dismas; so everyone can not ever hear them when he dies in the tutorial. This game has such as hilariously cruel difficulty curve, Dimas got killed the tutorial by a lucky 24 damage crit. Yup it's a game in which you can lose your characters in the initial tutorial level.
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Feb 21, 2015 22:26
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Apple2o posted:Let's go make tons of unique lines for Dismas; so everyone can not ever hear them when he dies in the tutorial. 
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Feb 21, 2015 22:31
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One thing they can do is add quirk-specific lines to the characters. A highwayman with syphilis who yells, "your mother is uglier than the sores in my crotch!" as he attacks would be pretty drat funny (and sufficiently gross).
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Feb 21, 2015 22:31
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The quirks aren't as meaningful since you get 2 new ones after each mission and they are often not connected to the actions in the game. I'm not sure how my prized Crusader picked up crotch rot from a dungeon full of skeletons.
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Feb 21, 2015 22:42
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enraged_camel posted:One thing they can do is add quirk-specific lines to the characters. Sounds epic, gamer.
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Feb 21, 2015 22:44
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well this thread got lovely fast
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Feb 21, 2015 22:48
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Coolguye posted:well this thread got lovely fast Thanks for your valuable opinion cool guy.
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Feb 21, 2015 22:49
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enraged_camel posted:Thanks for your valuable opinion cool guy. yw
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Feb 21, 2015 22:51
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hey 80 pages before retard tantrums begin is pretty good for Games
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Feb 21, 2015 22:52
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Expecting tantrums over the starting difficulty but no it's about the speech bubbles  halp, my guys talk too much!!
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Feb 21, 2015 23:42
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Jackard posted:Expecting tantrums over the starting difficulty but no it's about the speech bubbles Maybe you have been living under a rock but people have been complaining about the *lack* of difficulty.
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Feb 21, 2015 23:45
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It's more a broken curve, the first few weeks are hard but once you farm enough upgrades/trinkets it becomes easy to steamroll the rest of the game.
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Feb 21, 2015 23:47
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enraged_camel posted:but people have been complaining about the *lack* of difficulty.
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The Mighty Biscuit posted:But they are soulless. Every single highway man has the same lines as every other highway man. There is nothing unique about any of your lepers. Steve the Plague Doctor and Bill the Plague Doctor are basically the same person. But the classes are unique. It doesn't matter if every plague doctor has the same personality, its better than them having none. There are eventually going to be enough classes that you can easily avoid having repeats in your party, plus hopefully as the quirk system gets improved more there will be unique dialogue there. Lots of people have spoken about enjoying the narration and character speech. Fine if you don't like it, but if you think its an objectively bad idea your pretty dumb.
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Feb 21, 2015 23:56
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The only objectively bad thing about dialogue is that it slows down combat. If the bubbles didn't prevent the player from acting, they'd be perfectly fine.
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Feb 22, 2015 00:42
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In fact they should just get rid of the characters, and instead you have to choose between floating weapons to take on adventures
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I just lost an entire B team to the hag. first full wipe. RIP Lucy the Leper and friends. I knew I was fighting the Hag, and somehow I still managed to screw up the party composition. I just regret the trinkets... and the occultist was awesome. I feel that restarting after their recent patches I have been more challanged... or something.
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HogX posted:In fact they should just get rid of the characters, and instead you have to choose between floating weapons to take on adventures You are an idiot.
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enraged_camel posted:Maybe you have been living under a rock but people have been complaining about the *lack* of difficulty. Oh, word?
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Not really, there are like 3 people who are all "this is super easy*" (*once you figure everything out). Some more feel that the higher levels (much like most roguelikes I'd like to point out) lack the same danger since you usually have a better buffer to handle/recover from stuff and could use some more oomphf. We also don't know what the last 2 dungeons will be like, which could have implications on how the rest of the difficulty needs to be.
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HogX posted:In fact they should just get rid of the characters, and instead you have to choose between floating weapons to take on adventures This is why I only play DCSS and I only play spellcasters who use animate weapon. Everything else sucks and this forum sucks when it's not talking about animating weapons (preferably katanas) and using them to kill baddies.
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HogX posted:In fact they should just get rid of the characters, and instead you have to choose between floating weapons to take on adventures  I think I can actually mod this
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etalian posted:It's more a broken curve, the first few weeks are hard but once you farm enough upgrades/trinkets it becomes easy to steamroll the rest of the game. It's almost like it isn't done or something.
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Internet Kraken posted:But the classes are unique. It doesn't matter if every plague doctor has the same personality, its better than them having none. There are eventually going to be enough classes that you can easily avoid having repeats in your party, plus hopefully as the quirk system gets improved more there will be unique dialogue there. I know you're more mature than that. There's no reason to resort to calling names because I really dislike something you like. i know im being really mean spirited but its at the game and its stupid bubbles. Not you. You like it? Fine. Thats cool. I hate it.
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The bubbles are pretty good. I like seeing my dudes say stuff. As mentioned, they just need to not be so intrusive. I laugh every time my nymphomaniac drunkard Vestal with Love Interest says "this may seem like a strange request at first, but..." Party on, you goofy tantric priestess.  HogX posted:In fact they should just get rid of the characters, and instead you have to choose between floating weapons to take on adventures I legitimately want this to be a class. Ghost class. Just a loving possessed spear or something that wootles around murdering poo poo. Its camp abilities include "hilarious ghost prank" and "visit dead relatives" and in battle it can possess a dying companion to boot them off of Death's Door and give them a protection buff.
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I always forget to use trinkets.
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I always forget to take my good ones off people resting in town.
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The Mighty Biscuit posted:I know you're more mature than that. There's no reason to resort to calling names because I really dislike something you like. i know im being really mean spirited but its at the game and its stupid bubbles. Not you. You like it? Fine. Thats cool. I hate it. Look at the post that started this whole thing; The Mighty Biscuit posted:They need no lines. Turn that garbage off. the narration and the speech bubbles are loving awful ideas that are implemented even worse. Its not that you don't like it, you were talking like its objectively bad which is hilariously dumb. I just told you as much. Chard posted:I always forget to use trinkets. You get so many lovely ones you probably won't even notice the rare occasion you find one worth using. I remember being really confused when I got the Hellion's common trinket because it has strong benefits with zero downsides. I thought it must be glitched because every trinket I'd seen until then always had a terrible, crippling flaw. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Feb 22, 2015 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if 2 different people did trinket passes, or if there really hasn't been one done in several balancing passes. There are actually quite a few that are really good, with low downsides or things you can effectively ignore (light trinkets are great examples of this). Some of the class trinkets seem pretty great, while others are just terrible.
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It really feels like plague doctors need to be buffed in general, crusaders need to be changed to be actually fun over unbelievably boring to play (oh look they never die and do no damage, just throw out stuns forever and be a lovely secondary heal if the going gets rough) , the aforementioned occultist heal change needs to happen like yesterday It's mostly just plague doctors though, they feels like an active waste to have on any team because of how low their damage is and how useless outside of bosses DoT is for the player
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The Mighty Biscuit posted:I know you're more mature than that. There's no reason to resort to calling names because I really dislike something you like. i know im being really mean spirited but its at the game and its stupid bubbles. Not you. You like it? Fine. Thats cool. I hate it. Internet Kraken posted:Its not that you don't like it, you were talking like its objectively bad which is hilariously dumb. I just told you as much. just loving terrible.
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Coolguye posted:guys i think we can all agree that you both are awful. Also, all they need to do is add an option to turn them off, or allow you to hit spacebar or something to skip them when they come up. It's not a big deal, and there's no way it's a priority right now either way.
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Jackard posted:
I think you could. The sprites are in the steam folder IIRC and it seems like a simple enough job to pop in and just edit out everything.
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Toxxupation posted:crusaders need to be changed to be actually fun over unbelievably boring to play (oh look they never die and do no damage, just throw out stuns forever and be a lovely secondary heal if the going gets rough) uh wut My 4x lvl 5 Crusader team wrecks faces, I don't think there's been a fight of theirs that lasted more than 4 rounds unless I was intentionally drawing it out for stress heals.
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The Mighty Biscuit posted:They need no lines. Turn that garbage off. the narration and the speech bubbles are loving awful ideas that are implemented even worse. The Mighty Biscuit posted:I too enjoy hearing bland generic npcs repeat the same canned lines and believe that adding more canned lines to say the exact same thing in different ways would improve the game. The dialogue is great, the reactions to crits are pretty fantastic(Jesters laughing maniacally owns), and the little touches like if a dude gets focus-fired and knocked down by half of their health in a single turn, one of the party members can(but not always!) say "are you alright?" It can be improved of course, they need to change the layout for the cart definitely so that they word bubbles don't overlap the characters, Affliction speech needs to not pause everything, and hey, maybe they can add a menu option to disable various dialogue options for boring people like you enraged_camel posted:You are an idiot. How is humor formed
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ZypherIM posted:I wouldn't be surprised if 2 different people did trinket passes, or if there really hasn't been one done in several balancing passes. There are actually quite a few that are really good, with low downsides or things you can effectively ignore (light trinkets are great examples of this). Some of the class trinkets seem pretty great, while others are just terrible. There's a hilariously rubbish Highwayman one, Cursed Buckle, which gives a bonus to Stun and Blight skills and a penalty to either Bleed skills or Bleed resist.
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Angrymog posted:There's a hilariously rubbish Highwayman one, Cursed Buckle, which gives a bonus to Stun and Blight skills and a penalty to either Bleed skills or Bleed resist. The trinket inventory system, that you have to first open a character's window then the trinket window, then close them both before going on to the next, etc. is total garbage. The UI definitely needs improvement and I hope they focus on that a lot as the game gets closer to official release. Clicking on a trinket slot should just open the trinket window and show only eligible trinkets(and one of each with how many you have in your inventory listed next to it). Dragging a trinket out of a slot should automatically dump it back into your trinket inventory.
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Angrymog posted:There's a hilariously rubbish Highwayman one, Cursed Buckle, which gives a bonus to Stun and Blight skills and a penalty to either Bleed skills or Bleed resist. In a way, I kind of really appreciate that the game drops terrible trinkets that offer no benefit. Kind of like a punishment for anyone foolish enough to go "Yeah, I like stun skills, let's put that on him" without checking if he can. I'm hoping there are more of them. Though I will admit, picking up five in one run through the Wealds was just a little much. Though it does make me wonder if, in the full game, there will be skill upgrades that allow you to place status effects onto current moves. Point Blank Shot would be a prime choice to get a stun chance on it.
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