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necrotic posted:this game really needs pedestals. I hate sticking my artifact toy boats on the ground somewhere and forbidding them as a pretend pedestal. I do this with woodland friend diplomat remains atop engraved walls in a 2 z-level high room.
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necrotic posted:this game really needs pedestals. I hate sticking my artifact toy boats on the ground somewhere and forbidding them as a pretend pedestal. One of the many nice things in Masterwork is just this sort of thing (display constructions).
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Can someone explain the intricacies of setting up a hospital and the easiest way of setting up a quantum stockpile? For the hospital, I think it's as "easy" as appointing a Chief Medical Dwarf, then designating a room as the hospital zone and building traction benches, beds, tables, and bins in it to have everything run. As for the quantum stockpile, I think I did it right. I set up a 1x1 stockpile that was empty, changed its settings to what I wanted in the pile, designated the square as a garbage dump, then designated a bunch of nearby stuff for dumping. Currently, I've got a bunch of dwarves sitting around, not dumping the stuff, all with item dumping enabled, and none of the items forbidden. What am I missing in both of these situations?
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Feb 23, 2015 00:11
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All those things like traction benches are neat but really, you just need some cloth and thread for bandaging/stitches, and splints and crutches for basic hospital setup. Appointing a chief medical dwarf is an option so you can see top-down health problems with some accuracy, it isn't required at all to have doctors stick bandaids on dudes. Read this: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Health_care As to why stuff is not being dumped, if it is outdoors, make sure you do o-r-o (orders -> refuse -> gather refuse from outside, by default it is set to ignore)
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Flesh Forge posted:As to why stuff is not being dumped, if it is outdoors, make sure you do o-r-o (orders -> refuse -> gather refuse from outside, by default it is set to ignore) Aha, that's what I was missing. And holy crap, there's apparently a metric rear end-load of bones outside my fortress that could've been carved up into crafts.
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Feb 23, 2015 00:20
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You probably want to set o-f-cio (forbid corpses/items on death) to keep your dudes from rushing out to grab dead animals killed by invaders.
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Feb 23, 2015 00:22
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If you can manage it, build a well near your hospital. You need to clean off all those wounds and running a bucket to the brook each time takes ages. Soap also kills germs, so put that tallow to its proper use.
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neogeo0823 posted:Can someone explain the intricacies of setting up a hospital and the easiest way of setting up a quantum stockpile? For the hospital, I think it's as "easy" as appointing a Chief Medical Dwarf, then designating a room as the hospital zone and building traction benches, beds, tables, and bins in it to have everything run. As for the quantum stockpile, I think I did it right. I set up a 1x1 stockpile that was empty, changed its settings to what I wanted in the pile, designated the square as a garbage dump, then designated a bunch of nearby stuff for dumping. Currently, I've got a bunch of dwarves sitting around, not dumping the stuff, all with item dumping enabled, and none of the items forbidden. What am I missing in both of these situations? The easiest way to set up quantum stockpiles is this:
Definitely should not do this with food or drinks unless you want dwarves pummeled to death by projectile kegs. Also a link for a more detailed explanation http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/v0.34:Exploit#The_Minecart_Stop Syenite fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Feb 23, 2015 |
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neogeo0823 posted:Can someone explain the intricacies of setting up a hospital and the easiest way of setting up a quantum stockpile? For the hospital, I think it's as "easy" as appointing a Chief Medical Dwarf, then designating a room as the hospital zone and building traction benches, beds, tables, and bins in it to have everything run. As for the quantum stockpile, I think I did it right. I set up a 1x1 stockpile that was empty, changed its settings to what I wanted in the pile, designated the square as a garbage dump, then designated a bunch of nearby stuff for dumping. Currently, I've got a bunch of dwarves sitting around, not dumping the stuff, all with item dumping enabled, and none of the items forbidden. What am I missing in both of these situations? The hospital is basically that simple. As long as you have a chest or some similar container in the zone dwarves should automatically store items in there. Try and have a nearby well for wound cleaning and patient feeding.
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scamtank posted:If you can manage it, build a well near your hospital. You need to clean off all those wounds and running a bucket to the brook each time takes ages. Soap also kills germs, so put that tallow to its proper use. What's the best way to get a well underground? I have a river running through my site, but if I dig out a tunnel to let some water flow down a few levels to my hospital, won't it overflow and flood my base? Or will the well stop that?
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neogeo0823 posted:What's the best way to get a well underground? I have a river running through my site, but if I dig out a tunnel to let some water flow down a few levels to my hospital, won't it overflow and flood my base? Or will the well stop that?
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awesmoe posted:Floodgates and excitement! So... Floodgate at the edge of the river, opens to a tunnel that fills a cistern, from which the well draws?
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I use a food quantum stockpile and it's fine for the most part. I have the square itself designated forbidden so no one hangs out on it and yeah someone occasionally gets bopped on the head with some plump helmets but 99% of the time if the clothes don't negate all damage the worst that happens is a bruise. I also have the food production above the dining hall so the food gets dropped a level. Sometimes someone gets unlucky and gets a shattered bone or four but hey that's why there's a hospital. Deaths are very rare, maybe once a decade if that. A lot of dead cats since they seem to ignore traffic designations. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Feb 23, 2015 |
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neogeo0823 posted:So... Floodgate at the edge of the river, opens to a tunnel that fills a cistern, from which the well draws?
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Feb 23, 2015 00:40
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It is crucial that you have some understanding of how fluids and pressure work in DF: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Pressure Also, HOLY loving poo poo PLAYABLE HIVE WASP RACE COMING UP FOR MASTERWORK
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neogeo0823 posted:So... Floodgate at the edge of the river, opens to a tunnel that fills a cistern, from which the well draws? This does work. For a simpler solution, you can also just run the channel to the cistern through a diagonal. Water loses pressure when passing through diagonals. E: Oh yeah and add a vertical grate somewhere to keep poo poo out. Solid Poopsnake fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Feb 23, 2015 |
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Feb 23, 2015 00:42
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Flesh Forge posted:It is crucial that you have some understanding of how fluids and pressure work in DF:
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neogeo0823 posted:So... Floodgate at the edge of the river, opens to a tunnel that fills a cistern, from which the well draws? For safety I always use two floodgates on separate levers. One near the river and one right before the cistern. That way if one floodgate malfunctions or destroyed by swimming building destroyer you have a failsafe. Open the first gate, let the passage fill with water. Close the first gate and open the second gate, so the water from the passage flows into the cistern. Repeat if necessary. When the cistern is full close both floodgates. I don't remember when I started doing it that way, but I imagine it involved a catastrophic flood.
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awesmoe posted:Yup, that's how I did it. I'm sure there are advanced ways to do it that are better, and don't leave you proper-hosed if a marine building destroyer appears, but it works fine in my experience (assuming you make sure you have plenty of idle lever-pullers when the cistern is nearly full) Pump house with floor grates and rooftop windmills that drains into a sealed up/down stair next to the river to the cistern. I think it would take a flying building destroyer to get in through shattering the windmills but I haven't seen it happen yet (still expecting it someday.)
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Once you conquered mother nature and perfected the art of floodgates and grates, as well as locked doors and floor hatches, nothing can hold you back. My favourite atm are massive underground farm plots with large water systems above them. Flood a large cistern above the farm plot, seal it up again and then open the floodhatch. After a bit the water is dried away and you have a fallback cistern on top that is empty and a lot of farmplot.
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I was pretty lucky that my hospital was on the ground z level, so I didn't have to worry about pressure at all since the water source was on the same z level as the cistern.
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Man Whore posted:the Elven influence in this thread is sickening. I know I'm degenerate scum just for saying this, but dorf fort elves are honestly kind of badass. They're governed by a divinely-appointed caste of warrior-princesses and exist in a state of near-permanent holy war with basically every other race; they'll charge into battle practically naked and happily endure horrific casualty ratios just to defend a stand of trees. And then they'll eat the bodies. That's pretty loving metal.
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the only acceptable elf is Cacame Awemedinade, elf-king of the dwarves 
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Flesh Forge posted:One of the many nice things in Masterwork is just this sort of thing (display constructions). So it does! Time to steal those raws!
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honestly this is kinda coming out of left field but it's not all that surprising for masterwork
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:honestly this is kinda coming out of left field but it's not all that surprising for masterwork They sound OP as gently caress until you remember you can just hammer them once and they probably die.
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Hey, good news. DFHack innards got rearranged in such a way that the plugins and scripts are no longer compiled into a certain specific version number anymore. That check is now stored in its own library. If the game changes from underneath the plugins, poo poo still breaks, but the modules themselves should be version-neutral now. Should be a load off the plugin coders when Toady gets back on the update blitz wagon again.
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So, I've got elves that I'm trading with, and I've got a couple barrels full of food that I wanna sell to them. I know I can't offer the barrels themselves, since they'll get all prissy about it and throw a fit, so how do I designate just the food itself? Unlike with a bin, the food in the barrel isn't listed separately on the trade screen.
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Autonomous Monster posted:I know I'm degenerate scum just for saying this, but dorf fort elves are honestly kind of badass. They're governed by a divinely-appointed caste of warrior-princesses and exist in a state of near-permanent holy war with basically every other race; they'll charge into battle practically naked and happily endure horrific casualty ratios just to defend a stand of trees. And then they'll eat the bodies. Well, in a world where things like Boatmurdered can happen, that's relatively tame.
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neogeo0823 posted:So, I've got elves that I'm trading with, and I've got a couple barrels full of food that I wanna sell to them. I know I can't offer the barrels themselves, since they'll get all prissy about it and throw a fit, so how do I designate just the food itself? Unlike with a bin, the food in the barrel isn't listed separately on the trade screen. Is there a way to manually transfer the food to rock pots before taking them to the depot?
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Dump the contents, reclaim the grub from the trash while the game is paused, designate everything for trade before the haulers get any ideas. Ungraceful, I grant you, but it works.
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mr. why posted:Is there a way to manually transfer the food to rock pots before taking them to the depot? I really should start making more rock pots. I've got a shortage of wood(loving loafs won't go haul it back to the stockpile fast enough.  ) and a huge surplus of rock from digging out a ton of housing recently.
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I've got a vampire mayor and every notable person in my civ is a goblin. Also I haven't had any ambushers or sieges in the first 2.5 years despite a large population and an out of control fortress value. I'm thinking I'll retire this fort and build a scarier one.
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neogeo0823 posted:I really should start making more rock pots. I've got a shortage of wood(loving loafs won't go haul it back to the stockpile fast enough. Hmm, I wonder if rock pots are subject to barrel restrictions. In other words, if you limit the barrels at a food stockpile, does that also affect rock pots? I can't find any information about it anywhere.
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Yeah, it does. Barrels and large pots are one and the same as far as stockpile logic goes.
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do dead goblins go into corpse or refuse stockpiles? Also what labor determines goblin corpse hauling? I'm starting to get miasma in my fort from dead goblins rotting and I need to get them dumped asap.
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Sergeant_Crunch posted:do dead goblins go into corpse or refuse stockpiles? Also what labor determines goblin corpse hauling? I'm starting to get miasma in my fort from dead goblins rotting and I need to get them dumped asap. Refuse. Corpse stockpiles are only for dead dwarves and pets.
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Oh, then that makes catacombs a lot easier to manage if I don't have to worry about goblins getting in. I'm really worried about that miasma since half of my dwarves are suffering emotional trauma since the siege from either seeing goblins get butchered or losing loved ones in the defense. I've upped my cooks to lavish meals and I've diversified my booze productions, plus I made my dining hall legendary, so hopefully that will stave off tantrums till I can get the miasma cleared and bedrooms upgraded.
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Man, I never realized how insane my food and drink surplus was. I really should slow down my food production so I'm not wasting so much carpentry on barrels.
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Sergeant_Crunch posted:Man, I never realized how insane my food and drink surplus was. I really should slow down my food production so I'm not wasting so much carpentry on barrels. The "hard" part is managing the farming. Workflow can keep you from brewing too much, but won't control actual farm plots :-/
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