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Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Why did Rick bury the gun? Deus ex machine?

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moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

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Dinosaur Gum
I'm pretty sure Rick just wanted to see if you could blend a gun.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Tenzarin posted:

Why did Rick bury the gun? Deus ex machine?

Schrodinger's Gun.

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Feb 20, 2013

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Watched this last night and I feel like this show will sink into the rut where they find a new town and then have to leave through force. Interested to see if this is a society that kicks Rick and co out for being too paranoid; that they are denied their utopia.

PS - Isn't Alexandria in the comics?

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Tenzarin posted:

Why did Rick bury the gun? Deus ex machine?

To ensure a good crop next year.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

I can't believe how many people don't get the bury the gun thing. He's done it almost every time they meet a new group now. First time in the prison when he was getting used to the farmer life that Hershel was encouraging him to. Bury the hatchet so to speak. Rick makes peace with no longer needing to be on edge all the time because they've found something stable. This goes through a metamorphosis however as Rick finds himself needing that hatchet and starts to naturally distrust people. The last time we see Rick burying guns is at Terminus before they go. This time it's not so much that he found something stable but that he is starting to naturally distrust people and he sets up a backup plan. This recent one is more of the same, however his team has grown weary of the road, Rick shows just how hardened he's become, that even though the rest of the team is ready to trust again (even Michonne, who has battled the same thing Rick is going through now) Rick isn't quite ready to make that jump yet.

What I'm wondering is what was up with the "J" carved into the glock he buried. Surprised no one mentioned this.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Zorglorfian posted:

PS - Isn't Alexandria in the comics?

yes. if they stay the comics course then Alexandria is actually not more of the same like people are thinking it is at all and is a step towards rebuilding a real civilization without a creepy weird cyclops dude or cannibalism or whatever. I'm kind of sad that I know what happens in Alexandria because I know that nothing really all that bad is going to happen at all over the next ep or two.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
J is for Justice.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
If figured it was babbys first 9mm (i.e. J for Judith)

Iowa Snow King
Jan 5, 2008
Still laughing about butching up a gay kid via fruit puree

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

This was an Acceptable Walking Dead episode, I liked it more than most. B+, won't watch again.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Barreft posted:

This was an Acceptable Walking Dead episode, I liked it more than most. B+, won't watch again.

The overhead shot with the car's headlights going red was pretty cool, along with Flare Zombie.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
On one hand, it was an alright episode of the Walking Dead. On the other hand, it pissed off a bunch of bigots on the Internet, so it might be the best episode of the Walking Dead.

Lycus fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Feb 24, 2015

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
No wonder Rick is so conflicted, outside Judith is in danger, inside Carl is in danger.

Redleg
Jul 7, 2003

What an odd looking.....Figurine
Does the red hair guy get redder hair with every episode?

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Redleg posted:

Does the red hair guy get redder hair with every episode?

It's a reflection of his anger level. If you go back and watch zombie fight scenes, it gets redder while he's killing.

Mice Everywhere
Sep 7, 2007

I love animal porn! So F* you if you don't accept that!

Redleg posted:

Does the red hair guy get redder hair with every episode?

It's seriously distracting sometimes.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


They definitely have reason to be dubious, but most of the people they have come across haven't been bad. The farm, decent people, the hospital, lovely leader but decent people to the extent that Rick put out an invite for any who wanted to join them.

Even the Woodbury arc ended up with most of the Woodbury civilians moving into the prison, before Ricks leadership got them all killed.

Terminus has been the only real "trap" they've come across. It was a hell of a trap to be sure, but Ricks aggresiveness was totally out of line, especially when they have come to Washington entirely for the purpose of finding other survivors.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Tenzarin posted:

Why did Rick bury the gun? Deus ex machine?
Chekhov's (hand) Gun

Tomahawk
Aug 13, 2003

HE KNOWS
Now that was a good episode of the television show The Walking Dead

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Finally caught up. I'm glad you all got a great episode after a slow few.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
Good episode, created potential for future goodness that might actually make the previous episode better in retrospect.

First episode of this season is still garbage tho

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

Senor Tron posted:

They definitely have reason to be dubious, but most of the people they have come across haven't been bad. The farm, decent people, the hospital, lovely leader but decent people to the extent that Rick put out an invite for any who wanted to join them.

Even the Woodbury arc ended up with most of the Woodbury civilians moving into the prison, before Ricks leadership got them all killed.

Terminus has been the only real "trap" they've come across. It was a hell of a trap to be sure, but Ricks aggresiveness was totally out of line, especially when they have come to Washington entirely for the purpose of finding other survivors.

I started to agree with this but then I remembered the guys at Herschel's bar, crazy Morgan, and the biker guys. Probably more minor run-ins I can't remember that ended badly. Even if it only works out to 75/25 good/bad, a 25% chance of every single person you meet literally trying to murder you is loving horrifying and would make a lot of people distrustful to a crazy-looking degree.

Bulky Bartokomous
Nov 3, 2006

In Mypos, only the strong survive.

JoylessJester posted:

I don't know why this guy's so keen to let a a dozen members of a tight-knit skilled-murder squad into his society. They'll be running things inside of two weeks.

Based on the spoilers Tyrese listened to on the radio before he died, and the carnage in Noah's old neighborhood it may be a risk they have to take.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe
How many episodes has it been that they figured out that they could camo themselves with zombie gore, yet they never think to do so even with gore galore. Such as an entire car covered with smeared zombies.

Calling it now: HIV is the cure for the zombs.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
That was a really good episode. :)

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009
So this is the third time now that the crew has run into a stranger offering sanctuary. The first two times it ended in mayhem and most likely this time it will end the same way. Things won't seem right, the friendly stranger will turn out to not be so friendly, much violence will occur. Characters will die, new characters will be inherited from the new "sanctuary" and the crew will be back out on the road again in search of the next friendly stranger.

Is this literally all the writers are capable of?

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Charliegrs posted:

So this is the third time now that the crew has run into a stranger offering sanctuary. The first two times it ended in mayhem and most likely this time it will end the same way. Things won't seem right, the friendly stranger will turn out to not be so friendly, much violence will occur. Characters will die, new characters will be inherited from the new "sanctuary" and the crew will be back out on the road again in search of the next friendly stranger.

Is this literally all the writers are capable of?

that is not at all what is going to happen

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Charliegrs posted:

So this is the third time now that the crew has run into a stranger offering sanctuary. The first two times it ended in mayhem and most likely this time it will end the same way. Things won't seem right, the friendly stranger will turn out to not be so friendly, much violence will occur. Characters will die, new characters will be inherited from the new "sanctuary" and the crew will be back out on the road again in search of the next friendly stranger.

Is this literally all the writers are capable of?

If this group of people turns out to be secretly cannibal rapists, I will literally stop watching the show.

The chances of that happening are really slim in my opinion based on the gay couple we've seen though. My first thought was "haha this guy is crazy and he's the only one living in the place" because of the "why aren't there pictures of your people?" question, but now I'm thinking that no, they really are nice and cool and awesome people and Rick will go crazy and kill them all because he's become too paranoid.

And then in the season finale of season 7 or so Carl will have to kill him because he's become a rabid dog.

Gortarius
Jun 6, 2013

idiot
Rick put the same spoon in his mouth that was just moments earlier in Aarons mouth.

I think that made Rick gay.

Time for a love triangle.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

moths posted:

But none of those groups showed any sign of having investigated Rick's group?

"We've been watching you and concluded you're ok" is totally new.

Not only that but everyone of them wasn't "welcome strangers" aside from Terminus. The bar guys talked about raping women and general anarchist poo poo. Woodbury took two of their group hostage. Terminus is the only one that welcomed with open arms and it was fishy as gently caress from the get go and went south the minute they saw poo poo from other people from rick's group. This is the first one that's gone out of their way to watch, give poo poo, introduce themselves, be friendly and honest through the whole thing. Sure as gently caress rick's paranoid, and for good reason, but that doesn't mean beat the poo poo out of someone and just say "gently caress it" to something that could possibly be a home where they're safe.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
I'd venture that having your hands tied behind your back and looking down at a trough filled with the blood from the guys next to you will put you in PTSD territory rather than merely paranoid.
Rick was acting like a paranoid jackass but I could definitely buy the "I have two kids with me and I'm never trusting anyone ever again" thing after Terminus, walkers are the devil you know. They've been staring too long into the abyss.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

SocketWrench posted:

Not only that but everyone of them wasn't "welcome strangers" aside from Terminus. The bar guys talked about raping women and general anarchist poo poo. Woodbury took two of their group hostage. Terminus is the only one that welcomed with open arms and it was fishy as gently caress from the get go and went south the minute they saw poo poo from other people from rick's group. This is the first one that's gone out of their way to watch, give poo poo, introduce themselves, be friendly and honest through the whole thing. Sure as gently caress rick's paranoid, and for good reason, but that doesn't mean beat the poo poo out of someone and just say "gently caress it" to something that could possibly be a home where they're safe.

But Woodbury did do the same kind of "welcoming" thing, Rick just didn't get it since he came at Woodbury indirectly. But Andrea, Michonne, Tyrese, and Sasha all got that "welcome to Mayberry, everything's safe and good" spiel that they heard from Terminus and are now hearing from Alexandria. Its understandable that Rick would be terrified of walking his children into another one of those situations.

It doesn't matter what percentage of the people he's encountered have been good or what percentage have been laying a trap. There's been plenty on both sides. The problem is that there's been tons of evidence that in this world the humans are as dangerous if not more than the walkers and there's more than one "trap" out there. The next time Rick makes the wrong read of someone it could cost his son or daughter's lives. So he's understandably paranoid as gently caress.

And as said, probably more than a little PTSD after all the insane and horrific poo poo he's been through. But at least he has it together enough that when Michonne puts her foot down (and the rest agree) he listens and doesn't fight.

Like he JUST last episode gave that whole "my grandpa was in the war and thought he was dead every day until he came home and we're the Walking Dead" speech. Rick's in another mindset right now other than "find some nice people to make a home."

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

moths posted:

See, that reasoning ignores that they've also found and incorporated lots of great people.

People. Not groups.

Oh, I forgot the group that didn't kill or murder them, but did take their people hostage. Literally no group they've run into has been anything less than run by a psychopath, if not all psychopaths. Everyone they've run into that's cool is a person, not a group. Like Abraham's crew shows up with just 3 people, they're cool. if he showed up in a convoy with 50, he'd probably had tried to lit them on fire given the show's logic.

I can't fault Rick for wanting to be cautious and I think he's being stupid not being more cautious in spite of people. In fact I kind of want a Saw-esque scene replay of this episode where every caution Rick has ends up being 100% justified (like leaving them in alone together allows them to signal more people in the group or the like) which would be great.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

So The Terminus was the Twilight Zone "To Serve Man," is Alexandria The Simpsons "How to Cook for Forty Humans?"

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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It wasn't all that long ago that Rick lost his wife in a horrible way and had a mental breakdown. Then on top of that he thought his daughter was dead and they lost their home and many friends shortly after. All of that is before Terminus and that nonsense.

If you don't have severe PTSD after all of that trauma you are some kind of android.

Stickarts
Dec 21, 2003

literally

Boy are we lucky Terminus started at the other end of the trough.

Doppelganger
Oct 11, 2002

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

Blazing Ownager posted:

People. Not groups.

Oh, I forgot the group that didn't kill or murder them, but did take their people hostage. Literally no group they've run into has been anything less than run by a psychopath, if not all psychopaths. Everyone they've run into that's cool is a person, not a group. Like Abraham's crew shows up with just 3 people, they're cool. if he showed up in a convoy with 50, he'd probably had tried to lit them on fire given the show's logic.
Hershel's farm? Yeah, it was way fewer people than Woodbury and Terminus, but they had a home, a leader, and none of them actively tried to prey on Rick's group. If anything, they were the victims for being exposed to Shane.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

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FlamingLiberal posted:

It wasn't all that long ago that Rick lost his wife in a horrible way and had a mental breakdown. Then on top of that he thought his daughter was dead and they lost their home and many friends shortly after. All of that is before Terminus and that nonsense.

If you don't have severe PTSD after all of that trauma you are some kind of android.

Eugene doesn't appear to have any PTSD

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

moist turtleneck posted:

Eugene doesn't appear to have any PTSD :cool:

Come on man, fourteen wild cards?! That's clear evidence of mental impairment.

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