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ZearothK posted:
Wrong picture I suppose?
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 More Hansa!I'm glad to see this continuing, I'm very fond of this LP's universe. But I'm curious about the viewpoint of the latest update, At first I thought it was Aztlan, but that can't be it, it was referred to in third-person. Is it Viktoria?
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Feb 24, 2015 16:36
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It is old Itzcoatl reading up on spy reports, the obsessive micromanager that he is. He probably does wargames out of his campaigns with his grandchildren.Jesenjin posted:Wrong picture I suppose? And fixed! And an important lesson about doing updates in a hurry between class breaks because oh god where is my free time. ZearothK fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Feb 24, 2015 |
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Feb 24, 2015 17:14
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I elect we take out India. It's high time to put them in their place. 
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Feb 24, 2015 19:08
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:I elect we take out India. It's high time to put them in their place. You do mean the Republic, yes? I quite agree! It is time to mend broken bridges with the Raj, and to make them the only power worth consideration on the subcontinent!
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Feb 24, 2015 19:12
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:You do mean the Republic, yes? I quite agree! It is time to mend broken bridges with the Raj, and to make them the only power worth consideration on the subcontinent! No, all of them. We need to wipe them all out and start anew. Plus I need to amend for that botched vote a few months back. And since I can't remember who's who just get rid of them all.
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Feb 24, 2015 19:18
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Going forward we first need to come to terms with the world that has developed around us. A world in which the Hansa's horizons, and reach, have experienced an incredible contraction. I submit that the Ixachitlani Hansa, the European Hansa, and the Indian Hansa, have pretty much gone their own separate ways. The Hansa itself is no longer an institution of enough substance to honestly serve as something to hold those things together. Leadership of the Hansa, held by Neubauten, means very little outside of Viktoria and Nordland. Thus it follows that the Hansa's horizons do not, in practice, extend beyond Neubauten's. And Neubauten itself is in a much more restrictive position than back in its heyday. First off, the Aztec victories confront us with a reality in which the home territories themselves are not secure. Their ability to henceforth pose an existential threat means that the home front commands most of our attention. Secondly, our failures abroad - giving up on Africa entirely, losing India in all but name, and giving up the east Asian initiative to China (which turned into our practical non-presence and the loss of our most important ally) - have meant that other than a handful of bases and small colonies we have lost Africa, south and east Asia. A hundred years ago we were actively competing with the strongest maritime powers in the region, today they have carte blanche to do as they want without even having to pay a thought to us. Thus always keep in mind, that in the face of that great shrinking of our geopolitical reach, our decisions in this Hansetag will ultimately determine one thing: we will have to either humbly accept that the Hansa is no longer the Global Empire it once was and that its interests will be best served through playing the role of a regional superpower, or we will choose to attempt to re-assert our once worldwide dominance, once taken for granted and since comprehensively challenged. Belonging firmly to the latter camp it is my opinion that we must seek to maintain a proactive role in Africa and Asia. Our presence must be felt in all lands where the sun shines, and in the case of Africa it is my deep, honest belief, that it can be shaped into a decidedly Hanseatic continent as long as we fight aggressively to maintain the initiative in that continent.
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Feb 24, 2015 19:38
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Uh we really need to land a crushing defeat on the Aztecs. Sadly I don't think that's possible until great wars.
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Feb 24, 2015 19:39
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Uh we really need to land a crushing defeat on the Aztecs. Sadly I don't think that's possible until great wars. Hey, they will eventually recover all their cores! Or we will get machine guns, whatever comes first.
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Feb 24, 2015 19:59
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YF-23 posted:our failures abroad - giving up on Africa entirely Actually, our African policy achieved 100% of its goals and was therefore a huge success.
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  “Lübeck is not like Neubauten, my friend, and there is no better way to realize that than to compare the new Lübeck to Neu Lübeck… Uh… The rebuilt city of Lübeck to Neu Lübeck. Here there is this enormous expanse around the city, an area set apart to remind you of the vast territory your people have the right to. A similar expanse can be found around Lübeck, the ashen fields cursed by the Selatan, a grim reminder of the price of our endurance.”  “Neu Lübeck has open gates and roads, here you can hear every language from around the globe. The past century has made it the heart of the Hansa, the most cosmopolitan and prosperous of the cities of the world. Lübeck is accessible through a single gate wrought of steel, a railroad leads to it. Parts of the city, still haunted by anomalies, are quarantined, it is a place of ordered streets and high walls, where no soul is unaccounted for, diplomats, administrators and generals. There is beauty there, in no place you will find a more modern or experimental architecture, but it is still a city with a singular purpose, to rule Europe.”  “Hamburg and Danzig would be more to your liking. The first receives many of the faces one would see around here, while Danzig is the queen of the Baltic, which is finally, after six centuries of conflict, entirely under control of the Hansa. Lüneburg negotiated a peaceful dissolution of the Scandinavian Empire, granting the Estrids a place in the local board of directors and their very own charter company to manage their estate. The Rurikovich rulers of Ukraine are still hesitant to enter into a free trade agreement, but they do have their own worries at the moment…”  “It is a very wide front, wider even than the one you have with the Aztec Empire and one that works to our advantage as the soldiers of the Holy Roman face the largest army of Europe, our allies.”      “Things are bloody, but very profitable, as the Ukrainians field weapons crafted in the factories of Silesia and wear uniforms woven in Pomerania. Not to mention all the broken glass they need replaced after their cannon drills. The Rurikovich will win, Vienna and Warsaw will be weakened and we will have access to more of the natural resources of Tartaria. There is an amazing amount of money to be gained from investing in railways in those vast territories.”      “But yes… The Baltic… There have been some very angry words between our leaders over a few treaties concerning the Hanseatic members there, I hope the delegates can reach a consensus before things get out of hand, as for the Scandinavian states… Their leaders and people sincerely believe they can join the Hansa in due time, and I do hope they will manage to, but for now their economies are too… Medieval and their guilds have barely been established. Norway in particular, ruled by another von Goon monarch, is looking forward to a nepotistic resolution to this desire.”  “As for Europe… Well, there is still one single power capable of offering a credible threat, I will admit. Our very own Aztec problem.”  “It is a good thing they are not welcome here, however.”  “We have successfully established a coalition with the Mediterranean and black sea states, to aid them in their development against the Aztecs to the west, the Tartars to the east and the Romans between us. It is for this reason that I can say with certainty that the Hansa has won in Europe, with our alliances and economic might we are more than capable of not only neutralizing, but crushing our only threat. but I still think it will never come to that, as the Scots have developed a diplomatic bridge between our nations.”  “But again, they do have their own agenda over the British Isles as well as Africa and the Pacific, they certainly enjoy a high degree of autonomy and infamous von Goon silvertongue working in their favour.”   “We have made some alliances with states that follow more… Traditional ideas, it is true, but this is realpolitiks, we are not planning on inviting them to our clubhouse.”  “France and her Pétit Napoleon? What about them? gently caress France.”  Use 1, 2, 3, etc to vote for events Strategic Position: a) Interventionism; b) Follow Lübeck’s lead; c) Maintain trade ties with Lübeck, but sever the military alliance; ZearothK fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Feb 24, 2015 |
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Feb 24, 2015 20:07
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2 B. Call it the Von Roe Doctrine, each has mastery in its section of the globe. This is Lubeck's back yard, so it is Lubeck's responsibility.
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Feb 24, 2015 20:17
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There is little to gain from Europe. It is a very localised front in itself, and I do not see how following an interventionist stance would be more meaningful than following Lübeck's lead. In any case, Europe looks more like a distraction from more important things. C. Maintain trade links but sever the alliance.
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Feb 24, 2015 20:19
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2B! What's good for the Hansa is good for Neubauten, and this is very good for the Hansa. I believe that reorganizing our trade system in such a way will result in a net increase of prosperity for the Hansa. Our civilization, built upon the principles of freedom and industry, stands as the sole obstacle to the twin threats of Selatani and native Ixachitlani barbarism. We need to be a united front against the evils of the world if we hope to survive.
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My first Hansetag! I'm so excited! Grandpa Wittenborg would be so proud. The Hansa are a united front, and more than a mere collection of individual corporations under a common, convenient banner. We could no more abandon her as abandon her daughter on the shores of the Long Island Sound. At the same time, trade is the lifeblood of our league of brotherhood, and we must brook no mercantilism if we are to remain the sharpest conglomerate in the world. Free Trade and Friendship must be the rule across the vast Atlantic. 1B habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Feb 24, 2015 |
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Feb 24, 2015 20:25
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I have no great love of the old order, but it is within our interests to maintain relations with the workers of Lubeck lest they be turned against us before the seeds of revolution have been planted. 2A QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Feb 24, 2015 |
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Feb 24, 2015 20:27
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2B. The only way to ensure the solidity of the Hanseatic States is for its two greatest powers Neubauten and Lübeck to put their differences aside and work together. Handing Danish and Livonian trade over to Neu Lübeck will increase their profits, and in turn increase the aid it can give us in future times of need. Neubauten may lead the Hansa, but Lübeck is our representative in Europe.
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Feb 24, 2015 20:32
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2C. Lubeck is guaranteed supremacy in Europe, but our diplomatic machine should be directing more of its efforts closer to home, to more directly counter the Aztec threat.
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Feb 24, 2015 20:36
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Luhood posted:2B. The only way to ensure the solidity of the Hanseatic States is for its two greatest powers Neubauten and Lübeck to put their differences aside and work together. Handing Danish and Livonian trade over to Neu Lübeck will increase their profits, and in turn increase the aid it can give us in future times of need. Neubauten may lead the Hansa, but Lübeck is our representative in Europe. Seconding this. Hopefully it won't make Lübeck think they're too big for their britches in the future, but that will probably make things more interesting anyways.
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Feb 24, 2015 20:38
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2B Ha ha, time to ask the old board! The Von Goon Wooden Tablet posted:
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Feb 24, 2015 20:45
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Luhood posted:2B. The only way to ensure the solidity of the Hanseatic States is for its two greatest powers Neubauten and Lübeck to put their differences aside and work together. Handing Danish and Livonian trade over to Neu Lübeck will increase their profits, and in turn increase the aid it can give us in future times of need. Neubauten may lead the Hansa, but Lübeck is our representative in Europe. Thirding this. (is that a word?) Let's not be unreasonable.
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Feb 24, 2015 20:46
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2B, we must keep the Hansa together no matter the cost.
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Feb 24, 2015 20:55
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2B Lübeck is the most successful of the Hanseatic States, why shouldn't it be granted a reward? Still, we should keep our options open in case things go south.
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Feb 24, 2015 20:58
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Unwise_Cashew posted:2B
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Feb 24, 2015 21:05
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JT Jag posted:Indeed. The Hansa is a worldwide co-prosperity sphere... To be more precise, the world is our co-prosperity sphere.
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Feb 24, 2015 21:06
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1A!
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Feb 24, 2015 21:23
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Is there a more helpful against the Aztecs GP we could plausibly ally with if we ditch Lubeck?
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Feb 24, 2015 21:29
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Rincewind posted:Is there a more helpful against the Aztecs GP we could plausibly ally with if we ditch Lubeck? Probably not, the Inca hate us and they're the only other country potentially capable of taking them on with us.
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Feb 24, 2015 21:31
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Pakled posted:Probably not, the Inca hate us and they're the only other country potentially capable of taking them on with us. And I guess GPs from further afield wouldn't be any more useful in Ixachitlan than Lübeck is, so we might as well just continue following their lead in Europe since so far it's like the one place in the world where everything isn't falling apart for us horrifically. 2B.
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Feb 24, 2015 21:37
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2B Next vote when? 
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Feb 24, 2015 21:55
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Feb 24, 2015 22:22
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2B or not 2B that is- I'm voting 2B
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Feb 24, 2015 22:32
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2B Ugh, seeing the Altaic Federation get wrecked is heart-breaking.
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Feb 24, 2015 22:38
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Did Corsica nab Sardinia there? Forza
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Feb 24, 2015 22:47
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Italy is split in two. Why did I have to realize that.
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Feb 24, 2015 23:08
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2B, choo choo, this train has left the railway station
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Feb 24, 2015 23:38
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Unwise_Cashew posted:2B 2B
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Feb 24, 2015 23:51
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alcaras posted:2B, , this train has left the railway station Yeah, this vote is so one-sided it's a line. A RAILWAY LINE alcaras posted:choo choo ThaumPenguin fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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Feb 24, 2015 23:52
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2B or not 2B is apparently the question.
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3C. The Scots are naturally in Lubeck's sphere of influence.
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