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Intel&Sebastian posted:You're aware that Walker took a prank call from a fake Koch brother, kissed the ring and then promised to bust the unions up good for him? With planted agitators among other things. Never Forget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBnSv3a6Nh4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3a2pYGr7-k
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Besides, how is that any different from the poo poo that James O'Keefe pulls on the reg anyway?
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ufarn posted:So, how big a percentage of this is racism, and how much is an obsolete idea of how Western monarchies work? No one on the American left thinks of Obama as a king. It seems to be some sort of weird masturbation thing that the Right wing has going on. The entire meme is bullshit that doesn't make any sense unless you think Obama is going to actually declare himself king and reign for eternity.
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Unlike O'Keefe, he didn't need to sloppily manipulate footage to reveal what he knew when the facts proved otherwise.
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Pohl posted:No one on the American left thinks of Obama as a king. It seems to be some sort of weird masturbation thing that the Right wing has going on. Here's the key - if the president is a republican, he's the duly elected representative of the people. If the presidrnt is a democrat, he's a tyrannical unjust king.
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Pohl posted:No one on the American left thinks of Obama as a king. It seems to be some sort of weird masturbation thing that the Right wing has going on. Whenever someone calls Obama a savior I agree with them. He saved us all from a McCain/Palin presidency.
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ufarn posted:So, how big a percentage of this is racism, and how much is an obsolete idea of how Western monarchies work? probably 50/50. not even the Romans were as terrified of / obsessed with monarchy as these dumbshits are, and their founding myth was based around it icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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Feb 25, 2015 00:21
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From the new national PPP poll.
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Joementum posted:From the new national PPP poll. Ordering poll results in alphabetical order is pretty dumb
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Also, note that George W. Bush has a 74% approval rating with Republicans. Miss me yet? Chris Christie has a 28/45 A/D rating. WOMP WOMP 
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Joementum posted:From the new national PPP poll. 
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Joementum posted:From the new national PPP poll. name_recognition.png
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Raskolnikov38 posted:name_recognition.png It's a little more than that. You can tell these people watch their  which is why Ben Carson does so well in both questions.Scott Walker's the current hot property, but readers of The Gamble from 2012 will know how this works: (1) Candidate gets media attention. (2) Candidate becomes suddenly popular in the polls. (3) Media begins to scrutinize candidate. (4) Candidate plunges in the polls. The question here is: can Walker's record withstand the scrutiny?
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Walker doesn't strike me as smart enough to be able to walk the increasingly thin tightrope of appealing to the idiot base without scaring off the moderates.
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I started to raise my eyebrows at Ben Carson's numbers, but then I saw that 80% of people that gave him a favorable rating are self-identified Tea Party members. Looks like he's still hanging on the fringe until the media gets bored with Walker. And then I went to Carson's wikipedia page and had a good laugh: quote:In a 1996 Megadiversities interview, he said: "The entire concept of for profits for the insurance companies makes absolutely no sense. 'I deny that you need care and I will make more money.' This is totally ridiculous. The first thing we need to do is get rid of for-profit insurance companies. We have a lack of policies and we need to make the government responsible for catastrophic health care." In 1992 Carson wrote "The most natural question is, who will pay for catastrophic health care? The answer: The government-run catastrophic health care fund. Such a fund would be supported by a mandatory contribution of 10 to 15 percent of the profits of each health insurance company, including managed care operations quote:In October 11, 2013, Carson spoke at the conservative Values Voters Summit in Washington, D.C., where he called the Affordable Care Act (ACA) “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery.” In his speech, Carson claimed that the entire push for the legislation originated with Vladimir Lenin and quoted Lenin as saying that “socialized medicine is the keystone to the establishment of a socialist state.” Lenin did not actually say this, although the purported quote appears on a number of conservative websites.
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gnarlyhotep posted:Ordering poll results in alphabetical order is pretty dumb (Republicans) Given the choices of Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, Rand Paul, Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, and Scott Walker, who would you most like to see as the GOP candidate for President in 2016? Scott Walker ................................................... 25% Ben Carson..................................................... 18% Jeb Bush......................................................... 17% Someone else/Not sure .................................. 11% Mike Huckabee ............................................... 10% Chris Christie .................................................. 5% Ted Cruz ......................................................... 5% Rand Paul ....................................................... 4% Rick Perry ....................................................... 3% Marco Rubio ................................................... 3% Who would be your second choice for the GOP candidate for President in 2016? Someone else/Not sure .................................. 24% Ben Carson..................................................... 17% Jeb Bush......................................................... 11% Ted Cruz ......................................................... 8% Mike Huckabee ............................................... 8% Marco Rubio ................................................... 8% Scott Walker ................................................... 7% Chris Christie .................................................. 7% Rand Paul ....................................................... 5% Rick Perry ....................................................... 5% Other interesting polls in that poll: Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of George W. Bush? Favorable........................................................ 74% Unfavorable .................................................... 21% Not sure .......................................................... 5% Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Benjamin Netanyahu? Favorable........................................................ 57% Unfavorable .................................................... 15% Not sure .......................................................... 28% Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Jeb Bush? Favorable........................................................ 40% Unfavorable .................................................... 29% Not sure .......................................................... 30% Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Ben Carson? Favorable........................................................ 54% Unfavorable .................................................... 8% Not sure .......................................................... 38% Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Chris Christie? Favorable........................................................ 28% Unfavorable .................................................... 45% Not sure .......................................................... 26% Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Scott Walker? Favorable........................................................ 51% Unfavorable .................................................... 10% Not sure .......................................................... 39% Christie's anti-vaxx thing seems to have destroyed much of his remaining star power, empty suit Scott Walker seems to be emerging as the alternative to Bush version 3 (and Iraq War version 3) as does Ben Carson, everyone else is scraping single digits, and Bibi has managed to massively gently caress up the formerly Bipartisan and unilateral US support for Israel. Oh, and George Bush has a 74% favorability rating among Republicans. 
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Grey Fox posted:I started to raise my eyebrows at Ben Carson's numbers, but then I saw that 80% of people that gave him a favorable rating are self-identified Tea Party members. Looks like he's still hanging on the fringe until the media gets bored with Walker. With Carson it's really that he does at least one appearance a day.
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I keep rejoicing at new evidence of Walker's inanity, but then I have to remind myself that it's actually his greatest weapon in a general election. Luckily I don't think he can win the primary.
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Are they just showing clips of him or something? I thought Carson left Fox back in November. Or do you mean his daily appearances are still fresh enough in Fox viewers' heads? edit: vvv ah, ok Grey Fox fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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Grey Fox posted:Are they just showing clips of him or something? I thought Carson left Fox back in November. Or do you mean his daily appearances are still fresh enough in Fox viewers' heads? He shows up as a guest on Hannity, Greta, O'Reilly, etc. all the time.
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mdemone posted:I keep rejoicing at new evidence of Walker's inanity, but then I have to remind myself that it's actually his greatest weapon in a general election I don't think it is though. Romney lost because he was an empty suit and everyone knew it. This guy's even emptier. Hillary would rip Walker's head off in the general, even being less charismatic and a worse campaigner than Obama
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Fired up, ready to fire people after running a once-great company into the ground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoSpLENAcxQ
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Joementum posted:Fired up, ready to fire people after running a once-great company into the ground. 2016 needed the Forbes candidate.
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Fulchrum posted:Unlike O'Keefe, he didn't need to sloppily manipulate footage to reveal what he knew when the facts proved otherwise. Sure, no editing in post for the guy on the radio, that's a big difference, no doubt. But in terms of "gotcha" media and deceiving someone they're trying to expose, it's the same sort of entrapment. If O'Keefe didn't commit a crime, then Koch could shut the gently caress up.
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Joementum posted:Fired up, ready to fire people after running a once-great company into the ground. lmao HP has always sucked, good job Carly for continuing that tradition
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gnarlyhotep posted:lmao HP has always sucked, good job Carly for continuing that tradition You're probably a lot younger than me, but no, HP really was one of the top tech companies for a long long time (I'm talking particularly about the 70s and 80s BTW). I don't know enough about Fiorina's tenure as CEO to know how much if any of the blame for their current poo poo status to assign to her, but it's fallen a long way.
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I swear to God Scott Walker looks so loving stupid in every photograph that is taken of him.
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Zwabu posted:You're probably a lot younger than me, but no, HP really was one of the top tech companies for a long long time (I'm talking particularly about the 70s and 80s BTW). I don't know enough about Fiorina's tenure as CEO to know how much if any of the blame for their current poo poo status to assign to her, but it's fallen a long way. Well, I'm 42 so I wasn't in the industry back in the 70s and 80s but in my experience HPUX has always sucked real hard in comparison with AIX and especially Solaris. Maybe they made some good hardware idk
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Yeah. Obama at least had a famous keynote address at the DNC when he began blowing up, and his stump appearances were incredible. Walker's got nothing except hero of the Great Wisconsin Unionbusting, he hasn't had to show his face on prime time yet, really. He's just Generic Right Wing Hero Cause Liberals Hate Him at this point.
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SedanChair posted:I swear to God Scott Walker looks so loving stupid in every photograph that is taken of him. It's hard not to look like a slack-jawed idiot when you majored in Long, Vacant Stares, with a minor in Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, and couldn't even finish.
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SedanChair posted:I swear to God Scott Walker looks so loving stupid in every photograph that is taken of him. At all times, he has the look of a man who's constantly saying, "durrrrr..." 
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Radish posted:Every image of this man needs a soundtrack of Cecily Strong saying DUHHHH.
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Not to derail this into a I/P thing but why is Netanyahu only 57% among Republicans? I would have thought it would be much much higher
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Pron on VHS posted:Not to derail this into a I/P thing but why is Netanyahu only 57% among Republicans? I would have thought it would be much much higher He's still a Jew
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Pron on VHS posted:Not to derail this into a I/P thing but why is Netanyahu only 57% among Republicans? I would have thought it would be much much higher Possibly backlash at / them sensing the gaffe? The poll didn't directly ask about support for Israel, it could just be them not liking him personally
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Zwabu posted:You're probably a lot younger than me, but no, HP really was one of the top tech companies for a long long time (I'm talking particularly about the 70s and 80s BTW). I don't know enough about Fiorina's tenure as CEO to know how much if any of the blame for their current poo poo status to assign to her, but it's fallen a long way. The good part of HP left in 1999 (Agilent/Keysight). HP computers have always been poo poo.
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Pron on VHS posted:Not to derail this into a I/P thing but why is Netanyahu only 57% among Republicans? I would have thought it would be much much higher He hasn't nuked Palestine or Iran yet.
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ufarn posted:So, how big a percentage of this is racism, and how much is an obsolete idea of how Western monarchies work? Literally this exact same rhetoric was used against Andrew Jackson. I forgot that this cartoon had him stamping on the Constitution too: 
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A good way to put the Walker polling situation in perspective is to consider how strong Rick Perry's poll numbers were when he jumped into the primary last go round. He was polling incredibly well and looked like he'd just step in and sweep Romney and everyone else aside. The he began to open his mouth.
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