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pointlessone posted:Playing surf on anything in surf/seafoam green just plays better. It's like red making things faster. I'm pretty sure there's a law somewhere about that. It's like playing ska on anything other than a cab yellow telecaster or a hacked up strat.
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What is the secret to getting good at tremolo? It seems pretty fundamental for playing surf rock, right?
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Feb 24, 2015 14:34
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lilljonas posted:What is the secret to getting good at tremolo? It seems pretty fundamental for playing surf rock, right? Tremolo picking or the effect using a whammy bar/trem bar? For the picking it's like almost everything else on guitar: start slow and accurately and build up speed by practicing. Take a riff and start out at 120bpm for one repetition, then go to 130bpm then go to 140bpm and so on until you just can't do it. Though you'll gently caress up as you take it to higher bpm that's fine. It's a trick I learned from watching george kolias practicing some metal drumming. A pick like a jazz III helps a ton for tremolo picking, but it's mainly practice (also tons of reverb). Some people like to anchor their palm on the bridge of their guitar, some people have their hand float, some people (like me) kinda anchor their hand by placing their pinky down kinda near the volume knob on a strat. Don't go for a straight up and down motion with the pick, hold it at kind of an angle and make a circular motion with it. As to a riff you can do to practice that's not just you going up and down three notes at a time until you're bored as poo poo and quit guitar forever: the easiest will probably be the one from miserlou because it's all on one string. If you can't recognize the scale don't worry because it's a modification (major 7th instead of minor 7th) of a dominant phrygian scale (fifth mode of harmonic minor) which is an alien of a scale in compared to the pentatonic minor scale that most surf rock is in. Spanish Manlove fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Feb 24, 2015 |
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Feb 24, 2015 14:48
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Spanish Manlove posted:Tremolo picking or the effect using a whammy bar/trem bar? Cool, thanks. And yes, I meant tremolo picking. I've practiced it a bit, but I'm very slow and I just can't get a rhythm to it. It gets all jerky and easily get stuck on the strings with the pick.
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Feb 24, 2015 15:24
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lilljonas posted:Cool, thanks. And yes, I meant tremolo picking. I've practiced it a bit, but I'm very slow and I just can't get a rhythm to it. It gets all jerky and easily get stuck on the strings with the pick. What picks are you using? You're probably having too much of the pick hit the strings so that's why it's getting caught like that. Part of why people love the jazz III is that the size forces you to choke up on the pick and only hit the string with a tiny bit of the pick. That also enables you to not have to move your hand so much, which means you can go faster without the fatigue. So instead of saying "use these picks you probably won't like or else you can't play this style," try holding your pick more towards the middle so there's less pick in between your fingers and the strings. But don't choke up so much that you're accidentally touching the strings with your fingers like a pinch/artificial harmonic.
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Feb 24, 2015 15:40
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40 OZ posted:
Little of column A, little of column B I think. He did a rig rundown video during his Oceania tour and he talks about his aversion to acoustic a bit toward the end. He mentioned that Fender and Harmony both fell through on a Billy Corgan signature acoustic but the way he phrases it makes it sound like it fell through due to his nutty perfectionism. When he's talking about his guitars he does play you also hear the phrase "Billy Corgan Signature" a lot though so who knows. The pedal rundown section in the middle is kind of a hot mess of things, I guess when you play the old songs you need a poo poo ton of effects on hand. The fact that he also had all his old preamps custom modded and thrown in a rack to recreate his old albums sound is kind of neat though.
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Feb 24, 2015 15:42
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Spanish Manlove posted:What picks are you using? You're probably having too much of the pick hit the strings so that's why it's getting caught like that. Part of why people love the jazz III is that the size forces you to choke up on the pick and only hit the string with a tiny bit of the pick. That also enables you to not have to move your hand so much, which means you can go faster without the fatigue. I have a bunch of different Dunlop tortex and Fender nylon picks. I haven't seen Jazz III picks at the local shop, I'll have to take a closer look next time. But I'll try different holding positions, see if it works.
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Feb 24, 2015 16:12
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Destro85 posted:I'm in love with surf green lately. All I want out of life is a surf green telecaster. Since I'll never be able to afford one, I'll have to settle with surf green shelves from ikea to hold my records http://www.guitarfetish.com/Slick-SL50-Aged-Surf-Green-Dual-Telecaster-Pickups_p_13638.html http://www.guitarfetish.com/XV840-Solid-Alder-DOUBLE-Bound-Body-Surf-Green-Rosewood-Fingerboard-_p_6235.html http://www.guitarfetish.com/XV-820-Surf-Green-Rosewood-Fingerboard_p_1000.html http://www.guitarfetish.com/XV-820-Surf-Green-Maple-Fingerboard_p_997.html Okay, it's not Fender, but it'll do.
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Feb 24, 2015 16:18
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Warcabbit posted:http://www.guitarfetish.com/Slick-SL50-Aged-Surf-Green-Dual-Telecaster-Pickups_p_13638.html relic'd gear makes me irrationally angry for some reason.
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Feb 24, 2015 16:20
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lilljonas posted:I have a bunch of different Dunlop tortex and Fender nylon picks. I haven't seen Jazz III picks at the local shop, I'll have to take a closer look next time. But I'll try different holding positions, see if it works. I bought a pack of Jazz IIIs from Amazon and after using those for a bit I came to the conclusion that the Fender Nylons I was originally using kind of suck. They were so whoahuge that I was grabbing them by the far end of them unconsciously and wondering why I had such a hard time strumming chords. That and they warp and bend quickly and were kind of hard to grip after using them for a while (they get kind of slippery when sweaty) meant I was burning through them super quick. I gave part of my Jazz III pack to my girlfriend and she said she hated it because of how close to the tip she had to hold it but she's sticking with it and while she still kind of hates using them, she also said the guitar sounds better when she uses them because she's not cutting so deep into the strings when she strums.
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Feb 24, 2015 16:26
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Smash it Smash hit posted:relic'd gear makes me irrationally angry for some reason. I usually agree but they do a drat good job on those Slick guitars. You're obviously not paying extra for it and it really does look like it just came outta somebody's garage. The unfinished ones just look... Old. It's kinda cool.
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Feb 24, 2015 16:32
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Is the fretwork better on the Slick guitars?
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Feb 24, 2015 16:49
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Warcabbit posted:http://www.guitarfetish.com/Slick-SL50-Aged-Surf-Green-Dual-Telecaster-Pickups_p_13638.html Welp payday is pretty soon... I agree with relic'd gear, I think it looks stupid. But that one does look kinda awesome. Thanks for the links!
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Feb 24, 2015 19:43
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Warcabbit posted:http://www.guitarfetish.com/Slick-SL50-Aged-Surf-Green-Dual-Telecaster-Pickups_p_13638.html So how good/bad are these XVs for something comparable in price? Looking at dis: http://www.guitarfetish.com/XV-JT100-Offset-Alder-Body-Alnico-JM90-Pickups-Vintage-Sunburst_p_2205.html
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Feb 24, 2015 22:33
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Smash it Smash hit posted:relic'd gear makes me irrationally angry for some reason. Rod Serling posted:
That's what wear and damage on a guitar should be like.
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Feb 24, 2015 22:40
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lilljonas posted:What is the secret to getting good at tremolo? It seems pretty fundamental for playing surf rock, right? Imagine you're jerking off and you got Parkinson's.
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Feb 24, 2015 23:28
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Or a better (worse?) way - if you ever played any button-bashing games, and you worked out that way of kinda tensing your finger so it vibrates (instead of actually tapping up and down), trem works the same way If you want an actual beat-division picking rhythm it probably won't work so well, but if you just need a fast consistent drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr it'll float your boat
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Feb 24, 2015 23:45
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I'm a big hypocrite because the way I learned how to tremolo pick was being a teenager in crust punk bands and just playing really really fast. Then when I got into actual metal I just focused it and developed the way I currently play. So I guess that counts as "practice makes perfect."
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Feb 25, 2015 00:12
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Smash it Smash hit posted:relic'd gear makes me irrationally angry for some reason. Agreed. My favorite is the boutique builder where you pay more to have your guitar not-relic'd.
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Feb 25, 2015 00:17
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I used to hate on relic'd gear and still do when it comes to guitars most of the time but my antiquities are so cool that I absolutely see the appeal. Every time I look down at the aged poles I have to smile to myself. I even busted out the DSLR to take nice photos of the pups before I put them in. They look amazing. I can also understand it on necks since worn used necks are comfortable for many guitarists. So for me it can either be really stupid and lame or a very interesting labor of love that adds a certain flavor to a guitar. Has to be done right by someone who actually knows what a vintage guitar with years of play actually feels like.
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Feb 25, 2015 00:23
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If people want relic'd gear they should get it the right way by either having a guitar for a decade and having it naturally turn to poo poo, or just buy a guitar off craigslist for a quarter of the price.
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Feb 25, 2015 00:29
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appropriatemetaphor posted:So how good/bad are these XVs for something comparable in price? Looking at dis:
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Feb 25, 2015 01:09
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Thanks to this thread by the end of the year jazzmasters will either be impossible to find and $3,000 for base models on eBay ... or basically free on Craigslist. Not sure how the guitar economy works.
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Feb 25, 2015 01:47
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Is the JM the new tele on the Internet?
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Feb 25, 2015 01:51
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I can only hope, I want to pick one up cheap on craigslist next year.
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Kilometers Davis posted:I used to hate on relic'd gear and still do when it comes to guitars most of the time but my antiquities are so cool that I absolutely see the appeal. Every time I look down at the aged poles I have to smile to myself. I even busted out the DSLR to take nice photos of the pups before I put them in. They look amazing. I can also understand it on necks since worn used necks are comfortable for many guitarists. So for me it can either be really stupid and lame or a very interesting labor of love that adds a certain flavor to a guitar. Has to be done right by someone who actually knows what a vintage guitar with years of play actually feels like. My mim '01 strat has badly tarnished metal pieces and the pole pieces on the magnets are really rusty. I get kind of annoyed everytime I look at it, but I am way too cheap or lazy to change them. Guitars getting natural wear just happens, fine. I just find the idea of paying large amounts of money for Fender to bang up your guitar for poser value really funny. My logic is that poo poo that is beat should cost less, not more. It is just something I mentally can't get past with guitars. I am also relicing my CV50 because I accidentally kicked it off a stand and almost threw it down a staircase intentionally.
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Feb 25, 2015 02:05
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I thought JMs and Jags were like the guitar every band in San Francisco has
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Feb 25, 2015 02:06
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baka kaba posted:I thought JMs and Jags were like the guitar every band in San Francisco has yeah, i just like the longer trem bar. plus gotta play dat gaze
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Feb 25, 2015 02:19
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This is all gut feeling and anecdote, but I see a LOT of Telecasters and Les Pauls in Chicago. I probably know more people who play Danos or hollowbodies than I do Strats, or even random superstrat-type clones.
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Feb 25, 2015 02:37
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i will play superstrats til i die which is hopefully before i get old
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Bread Dragon posted:This is all gut feeling and anecdote, but I see a LOT of Telecasters and Les Pauls in Chicago. I probably know more people who play Danos or hollowbodies than I do Strats, or even random superstrat-type clones. It's all Epiphone Les Pauls and Fender Strats up here in Michigan, with a few scattered Ibanez. It's pretty barren up here.
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Feb 25, 2015 03:20
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muike posted:i will play superstrats til i die which is hopefully before i get old All I need is my metalled out SG.
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Feb 25, 2015 03:51
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Also a good alternative because the ideal guitar is very thin bodied and loaded with nailbombs
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Feb 25, 2015 03:53
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Between the 5420t and SGJ, all other guitars feel lackluster.
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Feb 25, 2015 03:54
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Realtalk is there ever a reason to get two hardtail HH solid-body guitars? Beyond caprice that is.. I can't think of one.
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Southern Heel posted:Realtalk is there ever a reason to get two hardtail HH solid-body guitars? Beyond caprice that is.. I can't think of one. What does your heart tell you? Serious answer: Different scale lenghts, pickup switching options, to keep them in two different tunings, one's too fancy to bring out of the house, different color-schemes, set one of them up for playing slide. Just off the top of my head.
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Feb 25, 2015 10:39
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GAS isn't a logical institution
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Feb 25, 2015 10:41
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Active pickups vs passives. Different tunings, lots of reasons.
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Feb 25, 2015 10:43
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JMs are the ultimate guitars. I'm honestly very annoyed that jazz guys hated them back in the day considering many of them were actually going for a brighter tone. The trem isn't going to be a sell to a purists but those tones and body shape are perfect. Oh well, their bizarre history actually worked out and lead to more experimentation than most iconic guitars. unlawfulsoup posted:My mim '01 strat has badly tarnished metal pieces and the pole pieces on the magnets are really rusty. I get kind of annoyed everytime I look at it, but I am way too cheap or lazy to change them. Guitars getting natural wear just happens, fine. I just find the idea of paying large amounts of money for Fender to bang up your guitar for poser value really funny. My logic is that poo poo that is beat should cost less, not more. It is just something I mentally can't get past with guitars. I agree but most guys I've known who want relics honestly do it for the feel and that's an aspect I get. I've handled a few Fenders with that classic arm rest + neck wear and it feels really good. Super smooth and broken in like old shoes. No way I'd ever pay big bucks for a "new" guitar like that though. I'm happy anxiously awaiting wear on my own even though I take too good care of everything.
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Tax season's a bitch. Looks like I got a surf green maple neck headed to my house within 1-2 weeks. 
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