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Wheat Loaf posted:It has nothing on "If It's Doomsday, It Must Be Belfast" (a.k.a. "Captain Planet Saves Belfast") for foreign representation as of Our Wee Country. I remember watching that episode as a kid and thinking, "This kid isn't even Irish. He's an American with red hair." I get the idea that America is made up of people whose families originated from lots of different places, but that kid had about as much to do with the conflict in Northern Ireland as I have to do with the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia. (My great-grandmother was Czech.) Which is to say, not at all. Also: the IRA tries to use a nuclear weapon, if I remember correctly. 
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Railing Kill posted:Also: the IRA tries to use a nuclear weapon, if I remember correctly. It wasn't even the IRA. It was a street gang. See, based on that episode, the Troubles were basically the Jets and the Sharks. The Protestants burned down the Catholics' bakery, so one of the Catholics got the codes to activate a nuclear weapon Dr Blight (or whoever) had hidden, "Roight in da Prods' backyard! Hahahahaha!" (or something like that). Said episode also used the epithet "Fenian Prods" which is actually kind of amazing.
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Apollodorus posted:RaspberryCommie - here is the list of "essentials + make you want more" I made for my students: Any list of essential TOS episodes that doesn't include The Doomsday Machine is flawed. And I realize that it doesn't make most people's TNG list, but Tin Man has always been a personal favourite of mine. Great concept, great story, great performance by the guest star, just a really nice example of how much Michael Piller improved the show.
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Wheat Loaf posted:It wasn't even the IRA. It was a street gang. See, based on that episode, the Troubles were basically the Jets and the Sharks. The Protestants burned down the Catholics' bakery, so one of the Catholics got the codes to activate a nuclear weapon Dr Blight (or whoever) had hidden, "Roight in da Prods' backyard! Hahahahaha!" (or something like that). Yesss I was hoping someone would bring that amazing Captain Planet episode up, it is some whole other level of magnificence.
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Railing Kill posted:I remember watching that episode as a kid and thinking, "This kid isn't even Irish. He's an American with red hair." I get the idea that America is made up of people whose families originated from lots of different places, but that kid had about as much to do with the conflict in Northern Ireland as I have to do with the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia. (My great-grandmother was Czech.) Which is to say, not at all. The tendency of Americans to identify themselves as a member of a country they're three generations removed from is one of those weird things about them the rest of us just have to put up with.
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shadok posted:Any list of essential TOS episodes that doesn't include The Doomsday Machine is flawed. Fuuuuuuck how did I forget that? rumtherapy watch The Doomsday Machine
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I am a huge fan of Shore Leave. Its completely batshit insane and wonderful in the best way possible.
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Yeah I liked Tin Man. I don't remember a thing that happened, but I know it was good ol' fashioned scifi fun.
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MikeJF posted:The tendency of Americans to identify themselves as a member of a country they're three generations removed from is one of those weird things about them the rest of us just have to put up with. Because three generations ago, people were still suspicious of things like "he's an Irish."
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And as a side-effect of our "melting pot", the haves like to turn turn the have-nots against each-other based on culture and ethnicity. So it continues to be relevant.
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MikeJF posted:The tendency of Americans to identify themselves as a member of a country they're three generations removed from is one of those weird things about them the rest of us just have to put up with. "Hyphenated Americans" is the term, it's a vestige of the formerly much more severe (still bad but way better compared to almost everywhere else in the world) race and class issues that have plagued America since we first decided to steal it from the indigenous population.
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I hate and loathe the "stolen from the natives" nonsense. The locals that lost to the Europeans violently conquered it too. It's all been violently conquered by someone.
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Sash! posted:I hate and loathe the "stolen from the natives" nonsense. The locals that lost to the Europeans violently conquered it too. It's all been violently conquered by someone. ...who did they conquer, the Mormons?
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I discovered a wonderful thing while trying to find that speech from the Drumhead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM1fHCdiUfg&t=1729s
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Sash! posted:I hate and loathe the "stolen from the natives" nonsense. The locals that lost to the Europeans violently conquered it too. It's all been violently conquered by someone. So what, you think conquering is a moral act?
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thexerox123 posted:So what, you think conquering is a moral act? The only moral conquest is my conquest 
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Sash! posted:I hate and loathe the "stolen from the natives" nonsense. The locals that lost to the Europeans violently conquered it too. It's all been violently conquered by someone. Yeah they showed that indigenous mega-fauna who's boss...
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Dietrich posted:Yeah they showed that indigenous mega-fauna who's boss... You laugh, but when scientists succeed in cloning Mammoths/Mastodons, I'm sure there will be people who will be like  "THIS LAND BELONGS TO THEM! THEY WERE HERE FIRST"
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Sash! posted:I hate and loathe the "stolen from the natives" nonsense. The locals that lost to the Europeans violently conquered it too. It's all been violently conquered by someone. And those people are descended from people who came across the land bridge thousands of years before that and killed the people already living on this continent and so on yadda yadda. That doesn't change the fact that our governments (well, mine anyway) has been and continue to be responsible for terribly mistreating native populations within living memory. Of course the media always frames it the other way because it's almost comical how acceptable it is to be racist against natives because "they get everything for free and don't pay taxes, don't they?"
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I just think people from Boston should stop calling themselves Irish. 
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Zurui posted:...who did they conquer, the Mormons? Ok, well, I live in Northern Virginia. This was Iroquis territory when Europeans arrived in large numbers. The Iroquis pushed out Siouans that lived there before just decades before the Europeans turned up. Unless you were literally the pre-Clovis guys, you've conquered someone else. thexerox123 posted:So what, you think conquering is a moral act? It simply is. I don't worry about things that happened centuries ago, that I had nothing to do with, no one alive had anything to do with, and are impossible to set right.
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Just finished "Eat Me." I thought it was going to be a tight little one-off horror episode and then it ends with two Crichtons.  During the episode I was thinking about how it seems like the guy really is losing his poo poo with the drunk-sounding southern-ish accent he'll use when getting really heavy with the Earth references, but I guess with all the mind-breaking stuff he goes through it's understandable.
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Brownview posted:Just finished "Eat Me." I thought it was going to be a tight little one-off horror episode and then it ends with two Crichtons.
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Zurui posted:...who did they conquer, the Mormons? Star Trek thread, folks.
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Brownview posted:Just finished "Eat Me." I thought it was going to be a tight little one-off horror episode and then it ends with two Crichtons. Yeah, you'd think it was a "x of the week" episode, but you'll be feeling that one for another two seasons...
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Knormal posted:The Voth. Is there any evidence that the Book of Mormon is actually humans? Perhaps Nephi was an intelligent dinosaur?
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Apollodorus posted:"Hyphenated Americans" is the term, it's a vestige of the formerly much more severe (still bad but way better compared to almost everywhere else in the world) race and class issues that have plagued America since we first decided to steal it from the indigenous population. What you get when you put sixty-four Americans in a room together? A full-blooded Cherokee.
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Nothus Infelix posted:I was slightly spoiled on that, then when I saw My Three Crichtons, I thought, "Welp, that's what they were talking about." Then I saw "Eat Me" and I was like, "Ohhhhh ... they're doing it for real this time!" Same. I was pleasantly surprised. It also really heightened the tension of that episode for me, because I expected one of them to stick around.
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shadok posted:Any list of essential TOS episodes that doesn't include The Doomsday Machine is flawed. Great music too. I have a cd from years ago that is simply the themes from a few good episodes and this is one of them. It really is insane how much effort they put into each piece of music.
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Fister Roboto posted:What you get when you put sixty-four Americans in a room together? Ahaha holy crap, you're alright  MikeJF posted:I just think people from Boston should stop calling themselves Irish. I don't mind that personally but I'm glad the yanks have mostly stopped sending money to the bloody IRA these days.
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We're mostly over the British supporting the Confederacy
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farscape trip report: just watched Through the Looking Glass, show is finally coming together.
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Data Graham posted:We're mostly over the British supporting the Confederacy The British never seriously supported the Confederacy. The Confederacy really wanted the British to support them, and hoped their cotton industry would be enough to rope them in, but the British decided to start importing their cotton from India instead.
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Cythereal posted:The British never seriously supported the Confederacy. The Confederacy really wanted the British to support them, and hoped their cotton industry would be enough to rope them in, but the British decided to start importing their cotton from India instead. But they did build some warships that they sold to the Confederates on the sly, which in turn played havoc with Union shipping until most of them were eventually hunted down. The US Government never supported the IRA in any way, a few Irish Americans mostly in and around Boston did.
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Echo Video posted:farscape trip report: just watched Through the Looking Glass, show is finally coming together. Just wait, 4 of the next 5 episodes are just spectacular.
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I'm hoping I'll have time to watch the second part of The Peacekeeper Wars later, myself.
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jng2058 posted:
My barber did when I was growing up, I remember him being in an oddly good mood right after the Manchester bombing.
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MikeJF posted:I just think people from Boston should stop calling themselves Irish. Easy now, Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly both make a living off that.
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Delsaber posted:Easy now, Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly both make a living off that. Flogging Molly was the most fun mosh pit I have ever been in by a wide margin. I am not Irish.
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