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Entropic posted:Bowling for Promos will be fine, as long as none of the promos are worth anything. If some of the prizes are randomly the equivalent of a Ugin or a Monastery Mentor or something, there's gonna be so much whining and feelbads, but if they're like Supplant Forms and Sandsteppe Mastodons, it will be fine. That's what they should be putting in them anyway: Cool casual cards for the kids who actually want to do dice bowling. Its gonna be whining from us super-invested hard-core grogs, not the Kitchen-table warriors to whom this is supposed to appeal.
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Madmarker posted:Its gonna be whining from us super-invested hard-core grogs, not the Kitchen-table warriors to whom this is supposed to appeal. Yup. Which is why they should keep chase cards out of it, so us grogs can just ignore it and not ruin it for the 12 year olds.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:24
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In alternate future Tarkir there are somehow the same people that there are in original Tarkir, although they do different things
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Feb 25, 2015 17:25
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Zero_Grade posted:I want to use a Chaos Orb as my breath weapon. 
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Feb 25, 2015 17:25
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Whoa master taigam. Also jesus christ sarkhan's character just keeps getting worse.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:27
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Entropic posted:Yup. Which is why they should keep chase cards out of it, so us grogs can just ignore it and not ruin it for the 12 year olds. Hardly, big splashy mythics like a DRAGON PLANESWALKER are exactly the sort of card that should be given away. Casuals love those things.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:29
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Sarkhan status update: Still batshit crazy.quote:Sarkhan turned his eyes to the sky and a burst of giddiness erupted in his chest—an entire herd! Dragons were circling overhead. Also a bunch of card art:     New Kholaghan art/card.  The Vial of Dragonfire (presumably given its place in the story)
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Feb 25, 2015 17:33
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Cernunnos posted:Sarkhan status update: Still batshit crazy. also kind of obsessive, dude barely knew Narset and apparently wants to turn to her for validation
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Feb 25, 2015 17:36
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Cernunnos posted:
That just looks like a bunch of glowsticks. Confirmed that DTK is the rave set. Elyv posted:also kind of obsessive, dude barely knew Narset and apparently wants to turn to her for validation To the defense of the writer he was apparently upset that she died in the original timeline. I guess it has to do with him not liking zurgo and she helped him and some stuff? Okay I can't really defend it but maybe he just wanted to try to save someone w/ his time shenanigans like that's a pretty normal theme even if sarkhan sucks.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:36
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I'm vastly enjoying Kholaghan's new art more than her old art. It looks so nice.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:36
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Zoness posted:Whoa master taigam. I don't understand why Sarkhan's acting like his goal the whole time was saving Narset.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:37
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Kolaghan looks amazing. She must have got tips from her BFF Alesha.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:38
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Angry Grimace posted:I don't understand why Sarkhan's acting like his goal the whole time was saving Narset. I think it comes down to, and I'm trying really hard to emulate Sarkhan's thought process here: Dragons Dead - Bad Zurgo - Bad Dragons - Good Narset - Good so he's looking for good things in the new timeline to validate his actions or some poo poo.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:39
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Cernunnos posted:
Impressive metallurgy, when did Tarkir industrialize 
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Cernunnos posted:
Another art joke: George Lucas is going to sue.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:40
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Zoness posted:I think it comes down to, and I'm trying really hard to emulate Sarkhan's thought process here: I think the problem here is that WOTC themselves didn't sell how bad the Khans of Tarkir world was supposed to be so Sarkhan comes off looking like a lunatic who changed history for no reason other than the fact that he has the hots for some girl that he briefly met despite the fact that he was committed to changing the world way in advance of having met her. The Dragons of Tarkir world doesn't really appear to be any better or worse. The bigger problem to me is that Sorin had a way more important reason to save Ugin and he almost literally wasn't involved in the plot at all.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:41
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Elyv posted:In alternate future Tarkir there are somehow the same people that there are in original Tarkir, although they do different things lol what is this crap, "oh no the time travel story is doing what time travel stories do"
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Feb 25, 2015 17:46
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Angry Grimace posted:I think the problem here is that WOTC themselves didn't sell how bad the Khans of Tarkir world was supposed to be so Sarkhan comes off looking like a lunatic who changed history for no reason other than the fact that he has the hots for some girl that he briefly met despite the fact that he was committed to changing the world way in advance of having met her. I'm hoping that there's going to be a mirror card to Bitter Revelation. As in, this timeline Sorin arrives in Tarkir, but doesn't find Ugin dead at all, so there's a card printed for that.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:48
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This is super goofy and amazing.Elyv posted:In alternate future Tarkir there are somehow the same people that there are in original Tarkir, although they do different things I guess Tarkir has a lot of temporal inertia, since all the characters are similar 1,000 years later despite a major change in the past. Didn't realize Ankle Shanker was an actual name either. I wonder if we'll see Kolaghan as one of the mythics in Dragons of Tarkir? I guess we know that's whose skull the Dragon Throne was previously made out of anyways.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:49
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Zero_Grade posted:This is super goofy and amazing. You mean the Kolaghan that is a mythic in Fate Reforged already?
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Feb 25, 2015 17:51
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forbidden lesbian posted:lol what is this crap, "oh no the time travel story is doing what time travel stories do" I usually avoid time travel stories, so I figured that we would have new non-draconic characters
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Feb 25, 2015 17:51
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Madmarker posted:You mean the Kolaghan that is a mythic in Fate Reforged already? He's just a rare. The problem with a new Kolaghan is that its the same character from Fate Reforged without any changes other than being alive. That's not to say they won't have new versions of the Dragonlords, but still. Also, its gonna be funny when Narset planeswalks back and Sarkhan's all happy to see her and learns she left due to to finding the scrolls and wants to kill all the dragons.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:52
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Angry Grimace posted:He's just a rare. The problem with a new Kolaghan is that its the same character from Fate Reforged without any changes other than being alive. You don't know that, thousands of years of ruling over a fifth of a plane can change people (and dragons). Kolaghan, you've changed, maaaaaaaan. They also literally made a second niv-mizzet in RTR without him becoming any different, obviously as a callback to finish a cycle, but it's not unprecedented.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:53
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Zoness posted:You don't know that, thousands of years of ruling over a fifth of a plane can change people (and dragons). I mean, there could still be a new card, it just seems like the current Kolaghan card that's drafted in the exact same set would suffice.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:54
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I mean I can't wait to beat people down with double Kholaghan.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:56
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Feb 25, 2015 17:57
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I wonder if they'll print something like 'Kologhan Ascendancy' to reflect the ones from Khans. Also, pretty sure Kologhan is female. 
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Ultima66 posted:
Pretty sure that's a NO. A tarn is a mountain lake. That's mountain-y but not very lake-y. Probably just a Basic Mountain. bhsman posted:Also, pretty sure Kologhan is female. All the dragonlords (I think) are Broodmothers. So yeah. Female.
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Angry Grimace posted:I think the problem here is that WOTC themselves didn't sell how bad the Khans of Tarkir world was supposed to be so Sarkhan comes off looking like a lunatic who changed history for no reason other than the fact that he has the hots for some girl that he briefly met despite the fact that he was committed to changing the world way in advance of having met her. It felt like Sarkhan wanted Narset alive now, as she died to further his goal by going back in time. It still may be the case, with this image still showing Narset, it's not Alt-art or art from KTK. It's pretty much basic speculation, but Taigam didn't say that Narset was dead or killed, just no more. There is the Shu Yun plot device to still resolve as well. I was actually slightly disappointed this week wasn't about Theros, but maybe that is for next week, once the Duel Deck is out. Sorin's involvement is probably in this block, now that he can turn up with Sarkhan at the same time to the Ugin-Cocoon, they have a kerfuffle and the Ugin wakes up and goes "Oh my god I forgot our tea date sorry yo" Sorin's all "Nah that's chill" and we get Peaceful Revelation, of the four walkers sipping tea while Zurgo plays a bell melody. (Narset being a planeswalker here)
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Technically you can play with two versions of Kolaghan in FKK already since it's implied that the Dragon Throne of Tarkir is her skull I'm not surprised Sarkhan is still acting sporadic considering he's had Ugin out of his head for no more than 6 hours at this point. Cernunnos posted:All the dragonlords (I think) are Broodmothers. So yeah. Female. Ojutai is a dude.
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Sarkhan is still such an utter lunatic. 
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Narset more than likely found Shu Yun's scrolls about the history of the khans and was kicked out of the Ojutai clan for it.
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Captain Capitalism posted:I'm hoping that there's going to be a mirror card to Bitter Revelation. As in, this timeline Sorin arrives in Tarkir, but doesn't find Ugin dead at all, so there's a card printed for that. "Everything Went Better than Expected."
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Madmarker posted:You mean the Kolaghan that is a mythic in Fate Reforged already? Try again 
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I wonder if the worst land in DTK will be the third in the "of the Spirit Dragon" cycle.
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Time for another episode of Count Bleck Thinks Too Hard About Time Travel! So given that nobody seems to know who Sarkhan is, I wonder why he's able to exist, given that even Zurgo, the dude who hates his guts, isn't the same person? He doesn't have any recollection of his new past, so there's nothing keeping him connected to Tarkir at all, why hasn't he just vanished from existence? Is it because he's influenced events on other planes? I wonder how the whole Eldrazi thing is going to be resolved now that Ugin's not dead and Sarkhan isn't the same Sarkhan as before. Is there a new Sarkhan in this Tarkir that doesn't go by the name Sarkhan because it's forbidden to say Khan? Narset is probably a heretic due to finding the scrolls Shu Yun hid away, Surrak we already know is a massive dickbag now, Zurgo's less of a douche, probably. I wonder what happened to Sidisi and Anafenza?
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Madmarker posted:You mean the Kolaghan that is a mythic in Fate Reforged already? Yeah I don't know how likely it is, but there's certainly precedent (see the aforementioned Niv-Mizzet just two blocks ago). bhsman posted:Narset more than likely found Shu Yun's scrolls about the history of the khans and was kicked out of the Ojutai clan for it. This would be where my money is. Wonder if they'll have her planeswalk away/back, be meditating on her own, or have started some heretic outlaw clan-thing (unlikely).
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Boco_T posted:I wonder if the worst land in DTK will be the third in the "of the Spirit Dragon" cycle. I could live with a Throne of the Spirit Dragon that taps for extra mana if you have the other two on the field. Like a pseudo-Urzatron for Standard.
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Kabanaw posted:Technically you can play with two versions of Kolaghan in FKK already since it's implied that the Dragon Throne of Tarkir is her skull So is Silumgar.
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redstormpopcorn posted:I could live with a Throne of the Spirit Dragon that taps for extra mana if you have the other two on the field. Like a pseudo-Urzatron for Standard. I would run it forever and try to make it work because Tron is great and it should come back already. Or at least be printed in MM15 so I can get some nice new art lands. If any of the art for this game hasn't lost a whole lot of the quality it's probably the lands.
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