NZpol: A Dick-Burning Dumpster Fire

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Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

All I can hear is Jeremy Wells' voice.

Mike Hosking posted:

A political correspondent on this paper on Tuesday afternoon was lamenting the media's inability to get access to John Key's speech to the House on sending troops to Iraq before he'd actually given it.

John Armstrong was right to point out that this was unusual, but he was wrong to go on to suggest that this meant the Prime Minister was losing the argument.

The poll numbers tell us that he isn't.

Forty eight per cent in favour, 42 per cent against according to a One News Colmar Brunton poll out on Monday night.

I would have guessed pre-poll it would be 50/50, there are no real winners in going to war and even in the most profound of conflicts there has been, and always will be, a good proportion of people who argue that war is no answer.
So with a comfortable majority supporting the move, I'd be feeling pretty bullish that I'd done the right thing.

But having said that, I'd feel pretty bullish I'd done the right thing because it is the right thing to do.

It is the right thing to do no matter what the numbers.

And in that, it's a bold move.

...

But doing nothing has never been all that complicated. Perhaps the saddest comment, politically anyway, came from Peter Dunne when he talked of his opposition by, among other things, suggesting we were a long way away from all this.

Almost as though he had never been on a plane or had the internet.

Almost as though, if you hunkered down in your lounge and pretended none of this was happening, it might go away.

For Peter's edification, this is a very small world and we're part of it.

Call it a club if you want - and by the way far too much has been made of all that "club" talk, did it mean 5 Eyes or the Western Alliance?

Who cares? It means the people who don't like the beheadings and the burnings and the apocalyptic cult that is wreaking havoc all over the planet.

You can't pick and choose the parts you want to take part in, in a complex relationship - not on a personal level, not on a geo-political level.

The world is inter-linked.

Much has been made of the so-called soft sell the Government has been engaged in. I have never thought this really needed selling.

Doing the right thing is not all that complicated to understand.

The fact that he paragraphs the way he speaks drives me insane and I don't know why. Stop making every sentence a paragraph. Argh.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 00:46

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# ? May 9, 2024 23:37

Red_Museum: Apr 17, 2011; Shredded Hen

I'm glad they got the person who brought us Celebrity Treasure Island on the panel for the new flag consultation.

Pity they wasted a spot on a flag historian.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 00:58

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

not a single designer lmao

Helen Kelly has lung cancer

# ? Feb 26, 2015 01:43

Butt Wizard: Nov 3, 2005; It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Exclamation Marx posted:

not a single designer lmao

Helen Kelly has lung cancer

I wonder how much of that is a legacy of being around workplaces diesel fuels and the pre-smoke free environments law

also Dean Barker has been given the arse.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 03:02

Varkk: Apr 17, 2004

Butt Wizard posted:

also Dean Barker has been given the arse.

Not really surprising he is 43 now. Time to transition him to a management role on shore.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 03:08

Butt Wizard: Nov 3, 2005; It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Varkk posted:

Not really surprising he is 43 now. Time to transition him to a management role on shore.

Yup, they'll need to start grooming someone at a senior level to take over from Dalts at some stage so an Executive role seems like the best thing they could do. He's also one of few people to have experience with the larger foiling boats so his input for training would be pretty valuable. I hope he takes the role.

The whole thing has been a loving shambles though by the sound of it.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 03:21

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Slavvy posted:

All I can hear is Jeremy Wells' voice.

The fact that he paragraphs the way he speaks drives me insane and I don't know why. Stop making every sentence a paragraph. Argh.

You can't pick and choose the parts you want to take part in, unless of course the people doing the beheadings are US allies in which case you do.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 04:30

Lobsterpillar: Feb 4, 2014

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I imagine that since the election, David Cunliffe has wandered the countryside in a torn suit, howling at the uncaring sky. He has dedicated himself to Aotearoa -his true love- and has cast aside the vicious 'Kiwis' who live upon her back.

Do you hear him? How he cries in the night.

He cries in the night when he thinks he is approximate to traffic. Or so he indicated in that interview.

Did he say 'when I am in proximity to traffic' and get misquoted?

# ? Feb 26, 2015 06:15

dusty: Nov 30, 2004

Butt Wizard posted:

I wonder how much of that is a legacy of being around workplaces diesel fuels and the pre-smoke free environments law

Her experience as a frontline organiser was in the early childhood sector. Don't think workplace exposure would be a factor, unless her Dad took her to work on a trip down the asbestos mine as a kid or something.

poo poo news. She is an excellent human being.

dusty fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Feb 26, 2015

# ? Feb 26, 2015 10:22

Butt Wizard: Nov 3, 2005; It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

dusty posted:

Her experience as a frontline organiser was in the early childhood sector. Don't think workplace exposure would be a factor, unless her Dad took her to work on a trip down the asbestos mine as a kid or something.

I'd imagine she's been some interesting places as CTU head, it would be shithouse if that was ultimately a contributing factor.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 10:29

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Matt McCarten was meant to be terminal a couple of years back. Maybe the cure for cancer is unionism :unsmith:

# ? Feb 26, 2015 10:47

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

The only cancer it cures is the ruling class.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 12:06

voiceless anal fricative: May 6, 2007

Exclamation Marx posted:

Matt McCarten was meant to be terminal a couple of years back. Maybe the cure for cancer is unionism

I was thinking about this when I heard the news this morning and then I started thinking I would trade Matt McCarten for her and then I had to stop

# ? Feb 26, 2015 12:55

dusty: Nov 30, 2004

Via @realstevegrey [pro follow imho]

Express has just published some click bait accusing the pride march protest group of being awful. What could worse than harassing participants of a pride march and fighting with security? Bullying.

http://www.gayexpress.co.nz/2015/02/bullying-victim-of-pride-protest-group-i-was-close-to-suicide/

There's a fair amount of People's Front of Judea in there, and the comments are a cluster of criticism with suggestion that various privileges should be checked. You have been warned.

Interesting though to see Express pick a side here. The outrage runs deep.

dusty fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Feb 26, 2015

# ? Feb 26, 2015 13:46

edogawa rando: Mar 20, 2007

I hope everyone in West Auckland is OK.

Any news on what may have caused the explosion?

Edit: which has apparently been downgraded to a "van on fire?"

# ? Feb 26, 2015 23:40

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Is it on a lawn? If it is, I blame Darren.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 23:50

Butt Wizard: Nov 3, 2005; It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Vagabundo posted:

I hope everyone in West Auckland is OK.

Any news on what may have caused the explosion?

Edit: which has apparently been downgraded to a "van on fire?"

Come play "spot the fuckwit blaming ISIS" on the NZ Media's Facebook comment streams. Fun for the whole family!

# ? Feb 26, 2015 23:56

Moo Cowabunga: Jun 15, 2009; [Office Worker.

Winnie for northland his spiritual home

# ? Feb 27, 2015 00:20

Noxin of Shame: Jul 25, 2005; Our Dan

Vagabundo posted:

I hope everyone in West Auckland is OK.

Any news on what may have caused the explosion?

Edit: which has apparently been downgraded to a "van on fire?"

Countdown to some embarrassed bogan coming forward with some story about how he thought the old t-shirt and gaffer fix would work and was honestly going to get that smoking exhaust looked at tomorrow.

# ? Feb 27, 2015 00:43

Ivor Biggun: Apr 30, 2003; A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula; Lipstick Apathy

Butt Wizard posted:

Come play "spot the fuckwit blaming ISIS" on the NZ Media's Facebook comment streams. Fun for the whole family!

I'm sure we shall all be murdered in our beds.

# ? Feb 27, 2015 02:20

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

I'm moving in with two mosselmen (one of whom is technically a woman) in about a month anything I should watch out for? I hear their heathen prophet Mohammut is a ghastly brute indeed.

# ? Feb 27, 2015 03:17

Big Bad Beetleborg: Apr 8, 2007; Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Slavvy posted:

I'm moving in with two mosselmen (one of whom is technically a woman) in about a month anything I should watch out for? I hear their heathen prophet Mohammut is a ghastly brute indeed.

Ingratiate yourself with them so they invite you to their potluck dinners.

# ? Feb 27, 2015 03:49

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

But I don't like lamb

# ? Feb 27, 2015 04:20

Moongrave: Jun 19, 2004; Finally Living Rent Free

gently caress the LTSA

God you are such backward twats, you won't accept a loving birth certificate from 1991 even though it's an entirely valid legal document, and you need a photo id, which I don't have, because my photo I'd is the loving thing I am trying to get a loving replacement for! Just send me my licence again like you did when I had to get it renewed you fucks!

# ? Feb 27, 2015 04:27

edogawa rando: Mar 20, 2007

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

you won't accept a loving birth certificate from 1991

Look at this 90s baby.

# ? Feb 27, 2015 04:38

Butt Wizard: Nov 3, 2005; It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

gently caress the LTSA

God you are such backward twats, you won't accept a loving birth certificate from 1991 even though it's an entirely valid legal document, and you need a photo id, which I don't have, because my photo I'd is the loving thing I am trying to get a loving replacement for! Just send me my licence again like you did when I had to get it renewed you fucks!

I had this problem last year when I lost my wallet, the only reason they gave me a new one was that I had an old copy of my Restricted that they issued in 2003. Otherwise I would have been completely screwed.

Glad to see this predictably common situation still hasn't been addressed yet.

# ? Feb 27, 2015 05:16

Moongrave: Jun 19, 2004; Finally Living Rent Free

Vagabundo posted:

Look at this 90s baby.

It's a reissue ya dunce

# ? Feb 27, 2015 05:17

Moo Cowabunga: Jun 15, 2009; [Office Worker.

The system works

# ? Feb 27, 2015 05:53

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

I couldn't get my license ten years ago because my foreign birth certificate, translated and signed by a JP, was not sufficient proof of ID. They told me I needed photo ID. Every form of photo ID needs photo ID to get or a NZ birth cert. Got my license eventually by complaining louder and higher up the food chain for several weeks.

Not that long ago, I lost my license due to accumulated demerits. When the demerits expired I couldn't get it back because, again, lack of photo ID. I asked why they can't just use the license they've just taken off me for photo ID.

"We can't use a disqualified license as valid photo ID."

So they're certain enough it's me that they won't let me use my disqualified license as ID to get my license un-disqualified because it's not sufficient proof of identity because it's disqualified and I can't get it un-disqualified because they can't be certain it's me because.......

Eventually I had to go to court and sign an affidavit swearing that it's me. My experience with this process leads me to believe that I could walk into court, assert that I'm Adolf Hitler based on a hastily-typed-up payslip from my office lady with my address and name on it, get an affidavit then get a license to that effect.

# ? Feb 27, 2015 06:33

edogawa rando: Mar 20, 2007

Edit: ended up a double post for some reason. I swear I hit the Edit button.

edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Feb 27, 2015

# ? Feb 27, 2015 08:01

edogawa rando: Mar 20, 2007

Basically, gently caress bureaucracy.

When I got my passport renewed a couple of years ago, the boxes where you're supposed to write each letter into on the printed out forms were invisible. I thought this would be a problem because it said "print clearly in each individual box" or something to that effect. I emailed the passport office asking them for advice, and I was told that it was an issue with my printer. I had printed the forms out on a few different printers and the result was the same each time, and it sort of pissed me off so I emailed them back telling them that A) I resented the implication that I was at fault for their paperwork being rubbish and B) it shouldn't matter if I was using a dot matrix printer, it should not be an unreasonable expectation for the forms to be usable regardless of what printer I was using. A couple of days later I got an email from a lady whom I assume is the original guy's boss, apologising and saying to not worry. Then what's the loving point of writing "print clearly in each loving box" then, for gently caress's sake.

# ? Feb 27, 2015 08:04

Brain In A Jar: Apr 21, 2008

I see you've provided two copies of this post, as per bureaucratic procedures. Good job.

# ? Feb 27, 2015 08:34

voiceless anal fricative: May 6, 2007

they wore the same thing how embarrassing

# ? Feb 28, 2015 03:25

Moongrave: Jun 19, 2004; Finally Living Rent Free

fong posted:

they wore the same thing how embarrassing

You don't wear "smug retarded douchebag" you're born into it.

# ? Feb 28, 2015 03:28

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

Not very often I think "All that photo is missing is an armed hand grenade."

# ? Feb 28, 2015 03:36

swampland: Oct 16, 2007; Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action

John Key looking very old and red there

# ? Feb 28, 2015 03:47

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

# ? Feb 28, 2015 04:12

voiceless anal fricative: May 6, 2007

possibly going to meet JK in a few weeks, what should I do?

other than have a beer with him like the good bloke deserves

# ? Feb 28, 2015 04:26

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

fong posted:

possibly going to meet JK in a few weeks, what should I do?

other than have a beer with him like the good bloke deserves

WarpedNaba posted:

Not very often I think "All that photo is missing is an armed hand grenade."

You know what to do.

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# ? May 9, 2024 23:37

Moongrave: Jun 19, 2004; Finally Living Rent Free

fong posted:

possibly going to meet JK in a few weeks, what should I do?

other than have a beer with him like the good bloke deserves

Murder him with whatever feels good at the time.

# ? Feb 28, 2015 04:33

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