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PT6A posted:Yep, Banff National Park: what a shithole. No nature, no animals, nothing! Jasper? What's there to see? You might as well be smoking two packs of day rather than breathing that polluted air... These are parts of BC that are only in Alberta by virtue of some terrible cartographic choices. Your lovely province starts at the foothills, son, the mountains are ours. 
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Baronjutter posted:Is it ok to really hate privileged criminals and rude arrogant rich people as a general class? And/or people who buy their into the country to stash their mostly ill-gotten money only to become a net drain while thousands of honest hard working people wait for years in our lovely racist immigration system? I don't care where you're from, if you meet the above criteria I'm going to dislike you as a class. I wish we would go back to the old days when only whites lived in Canada, as it is well known that no white person has ever driven a Ferrari fast on public roads or built a bigger house than he needs, and any white person who comes into money, which of course he has earned by the sweat of his brow and definitely not from being born onto a patch of dirt with something valuable beneath it, immediately devotes it all to philanthropy and the local community.
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Throatwarbler posted:I wish we would go back to the old days when only whites lived in Canada, as it is well known that no white person has ever driven a Ferrari fast on public roads or built a bigger house than he needs, and any white person who comes into money, which of course he has earned by the sweat of his brow and definitely not from being born onto a patch of dirt with something valuable beneath it, immediately devotes it all to philanthropy and the local community. You mean back in the day when canadians were actually loser Americans who hated freedom? Waaaah, we love our gay king and royalty, let's escape to Canada
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Feb 27, 2015 05:31
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etalian posted:You mean back in the day when canadians were actually loser Americans who hated freedom? IF you're going back that far, most Canadians were French.
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Throatwarbler posted:I wish we would go back to the old days when only whites lived in Canada, as it is well known that no white person has ever driven a Ferrari fast on public roads or built a bigger house than he needs, and any white person who comes into money, which of course he has earned by the sweat of his brow and definitely not from being born onto a patch of dirt with something valuable beneath it, immediately devotes it all to philanthropy and the local community. To be fair he was pretty specific in that if you are a rich rear end in a top hat, he will hate you no matter what your origin or background is.
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Feb 27, 2015 06:06
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I'm all for hating on and eating the rich, I just don't know why we're singling out a single ethnicity as the source of all of Canada's economic woes.
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B-but it's so hard being white! Waaaaaagh!
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My parents who are pretty left wing and unracist are completely convinced that it's all because of the Chinese, it never entered into their minds that cheap credit had anything to do with it.
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Feb 27, 2015 06:40
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You guys are insane. If you have the chance to date a Chinese pop star, you date the Chinese pop star. Former or not. Of all the things to hold against the mayor of Vancouver...
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Feb 27, 2015 07:03
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THC posted:My parents who are pretty left wing and unracist are completely convinced that it's all because of the Chinese, it never entered into their minds that cheap credit had anything to do with it. Yeah well Canadian credit is cheap only because it has to compete with even cheaper Chinese-made credit.
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ocrumsprug posted:You guys are insane. If you have the chance to date a Chinese pop star, you date the Chinese pop star. Former or not. If you see all Chinese as a shadowy "them" bent on taking over and ruining your city, the mayor literally in bed with one is cause for alarm.
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Baronjutter posted:If you see all Chinese as a shadowy "them" bent on taking over and ruining your city, the mayor literally in bed with one is cause for alarm. Another thing to be envious of imo. Not only can I not afford a house, but now all the C-pop singers are being speculated on now to...  When will this nightmare end?
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Feb 27, 2015 07:30
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Literally don't give a gently caress about ever owning a house. I'm going to move into a $500,000 condo and live in it for as long or as little as I want, and its not gonna be 20 years.
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All this drama about Alberta, opec will cave in under a year and prices will be back up. Shale oil has a much worse cost profile than most of the producing oil sands so prices could even end up better for a while til some of the shale oil growth gets on track again. It's in opec's LT interest to have high oil prices, just like while potash corp could produce for cheaper than almost anyone else they manage their production to keep prices healthy. As much as it will suck for some people for some time the oil sands aren't going anywhere. Too bad for all the people in this thread who seem to do desperately want to see others suffer, I guess.
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Re: inspections, my condo didn't require any until they installed sprinklers and hardwired fire alarms in every unit, and now I get like three days notice to be home when it happens. During working hours of course. And I don't think people have a problem with Chinese people being rich, they have a problem with the very different values and cultural norms. Like simple things Western Europeans take for granted like "waiting patiently in a line." But this will all work itself out in a generation.
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THC posted:Yeah Vancouver is literally China. Exactly the same except for a lack of air pollution, majority white Anglo population, one hour drive to the states, not a communist dictatorship, etc etc. how anyone can tell the difference is beyond me. China is a communist country in name only
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Baronjutter posted:Is it ok to really hate privileged criminals and rude arrogant rich people as a general class? And/or people who buy their into the country to stash their mostly ill-gotten money only to become a net drain while thousands of honest hard working people wait for years in our lovely racist immigration system? I don't care where you're from, if you meet the above criteria I'm going to dislike you as a class. If it were Jews doing this would you say the same thing?
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computer parts posted:If it were Jews doing this would you say the same thing? The Chinese super elite have achieved an opulence beyond the gold of Solomon.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:opec will cave in under a year and prices will be back up Where do you get that idea? Obviously OPEC can't continue this forever, but there's no reason they couldn't keep pumping through most of 2016. Might be enough to drag the Canadian housing market back to sanity.
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OPEC will prob let prices rise but don't for a second think they wont turn around and body slam more expensive domestic production every time we fire it up again.
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I'm mostly opposed to someone who grew up here, who lives, works, and pays into the system, being priced out of the market by foreign investment. I don't really care where or who the money is coming from.
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OPEC gonna keep pushing us back in the pool whenever we try the get out. Big bully OPEC.
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unlimited shrimp posted:I'm mostly opposed to someone who grew up here, who lives, works, and pays into the system, being priced out of the market by foreign investment. I don't really care where or who the money is coming from. It's also really non-sensical to treat the tiny sliver of the Chinese population, now probably 1.4 or 1.5 billion strong, that comes over to Canada/Australia/etc. to buy hideously expensive property and such, as even remotely representative of all Chinese people in general, or to treat opposition to them as racism against Chinese people in general.
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PT6A posted:It's also really non-sensical to treat the tiny sliver of the Chinese population, now probably 1.4 or 1.5 billion strong, that comes over to Canada/Australia/etc. to buy hideously expensive property and such, as even remotely representative of all Chinese people in general, or to treat opposition to them as racism against Chinese people in general. Please stop being reasonable and saying things I agree with, PT6A. But yeah, generally, rich immigrants from any country are suspect - the big problem with wealthy mainlanders is that they are incredibly pushy all over the world (like any nouveau riche, but unleashed all at once with a shocking effect), and the way they form gilded ghettos for themselves is alarming.
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unlimited shrimp posted:I'm mostly opposed to someone who grew up here, who lives, works, and pays into the system, being priced out of the market by foreign investment. I don't really care where or who the money is coming from. Yes, the "system" you paid into which grants you a call option on real estate? I must have missed that item on my T4. Ceciltron posted:Please stop being reasonable and saying things I agree with, PT6A. Yes as opposed to wealthy whites who have definitely never built any wealthy enclaves and instead spend their days mingling cheek and jowl with the proletariat, being merely first among equals, right? Kind of odd that the establishment for a hukou system and the abolition of private land ownership weren't so popular back when it was only white people. The mental gymnastics going on in this thread never cease to amuse me.
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DEY TERK ER HOUSES
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Throatwarbler posted:Yes, the "system" you paid into which grants you a call option on real estate? I must have missed that item on my T4. Whose mental gymnastics? Are you in an Alamo of your own design here
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Throatwarbler posted:Yes, the "system" you paid into which grants you a call option on real estate? I must have missed that item on my T4. Dude, I hate all the rich white people too. Your argument that "white people are bad too" does not invalidate the fact that there is a bad thing happening. I will concede a chip on my shoulder from when I lived in China and got a pretty poo poo treatment from said wealthy mainlanders (my boss would routinely underpay me and talk about how she was going to buy a house in Vancouver).
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Throatwarbler posted:Yes, the "system" you paid into which grants you a call option on real estate? I must have missed that item on my T4.
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Throatwarbler posted:Yes as opposed to wealthy whites who have definitely never built any wealthy enclaves and instead spend their days mingling cheek and jowl with the proletariat, being merely first among equals, right? Kind of odd that the establishment for a hukou system and the abolition of private land ownership weren't so popular back when it was only white people. Are you saying Russians aren't white? Or are you restricting this bizarre strawman to Canadian history only? 
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Yeah the hukou is also a weird thing to bring up because it is basically a feudalist thing that has survived. In case anyone (throatwarbler) forgot, China is not communist. It has experienced a capitalist restoration like Russia did.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/instalment-loans-the-new-high-interest-danger-for-consumers-1.2971067quote:At a time when she should be approaching her golden years, 57-year-old grandmother Helen Parry is instead supporting two adult children on a wage that hasnt increased in eight years.
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computer parts posted:If it were Jews doing this would you say the same thing? I don't care what your background is, a rich rear end in a top hat is a rich rear end in a top hat. No one can talk about class in BC without accusations of racism flying everywhere.
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Baronjutter posted:I don't care what your background is, a rich rear end in a top hat is a rich rear end in a top hat. No one can talk about class in BC without accusations of racism flying everywhere. So if Jews were doing it you would say "those drat Jews are ruining everything "?
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computer parts posted:So if Jews were doing it you would say "those drat Jews are ruining everything "? No, why would anyone say that? Is anyone in the thread saying any specific ethnic or religious is doing something or should be specifically blamed for something? A flood of capital entering a city looking to get rich quick off rents and flipping is bad for the community, it doesn't matter where the capital is from. China, Texas, local cheap credit. It's absolutely ok to complain about this.
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OSI bean dip posted:http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/instalment-loans-the-new-high-interest-danger-for-consumers-1.2971067 I like how in this situation there's a bunch of pretend money just jumping between companies. Like, the end result is basically the same as if they'd gone to a bank, it's just the usurers get to take a bite out of everyone's income along the way.
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computer parts posted:So if Jews were doing it you would say "those drat Jews are ruining everything "?
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Ceciltron posted:I like how in this situation there's a bunch of pretend money just jumping between companies. Like, the end result is basically the same as if they'd gone to a bank, it's just the usurers get to take a bite out of everyone's income along the way. Except banks, for once, would do the right thing and not grant these people a loan. quote:Pourdad says his company is helping people who wouldnt qualify for a bank loan, by getting them out of financial trouble through consolidating debt. Who seriously believes this is a good idea? "Oh, I have some debt ranging between 15% and 25% interest rate... I'd rather have it all in one place at 55% interest rate." You're supposed to consolidate at a lower rate, not a higher one, what the christ. 
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Jan posted:Except banks, for once, would do the right thing and not grant these people a loan. The guy making 58% interest on his captive audience thinks it's a great idea. It's great for him, and that's enough of a thought process for most people.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Too bad for all the people in this thread who seem to do desperately want to see others suffer, I guess. Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Feb 27, 2015 |
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