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Baronjutter posted:No, why would anyone say that? Is anyone in the thread saying any specific ethnic or religious is doing something or should be specifically blamed for something? Hey man, I'm not talking about all Jews, just those rich ones. (As I post pictures of buses with Hebrew signs on them and go "lol look at those idiots")
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I'm 100% ok with countries that are at risk of millions of displaced people thanks to climate change extraditing tar sands workers and executives. What's the stupid euphemism the US invented to call when they just come into another country and kidnap people to then toss in a dungeon? Something rendition? Yeah I'm ok with oil companies having this done to them, specially since they've actually put millions at risk rather than were maybe a child soldier. Or like the nazi hunters, combing the earth since WWII looking for those who escaped justice. I hope we see groups like this in 10-20 years going after the worst climate change villains, dragging them out of their fortress-palaces and stripping them of their ill-gotten wealth. Also If there were idiots in Israel driving around in buses advertising Vancouver condos I see no reason not to make fun of them. If someone had such a picture it would be deservedly mocked in this thread I'm sure. Are we only allowed to make fun of white Canadians when they make horrible investments or run scams? The joke isn't "lol jews" it's "lol anyone thinking they're going to get rich on Vancouver condos". Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Feb 27, 2015 |
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I'd be okay with them just having to find new jobs, new things to invest in, maybe go to school or something
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Han Chinese are the white people of Asia. This is ridiculous. It's like handwringing about racism if rich German investors began buying up condos in the maritimes. Don't you dare make light of bratwurst and lederhosen! This is a country of 1.5 billion people trying to meddle in the interests of a country of just barely 35 million people. You guys are acting like Americans thinking that the Dangerous Power of Canadian Influence has even the remotest capability of instituting oppressive racism on Han Chinese and needs to be held in check. Reality check please.
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I'd also guess that current and former Chinese immigrants (and their descendants) who aren't getting in with investor visas, and don't have Lamborghinis with N plates stuck on them, aren't really fond of the rich assholes that are finding their way over here, who also happen to be Chinese.
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Brannock posted:Han Chinese are the white people of Asia. This is ridiculous. It's like handwringing about racism if rich German investors began buying up condos in the maritimes. Don't you dare make light of bratwurst and lederhosen! Lederhosen German Man sitting on a fence Trying to make a dollar Out of 55 cents
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THC posted:I'd be okay with them just having to find new jobs, new things to invest in, maybe go to school or something The workers, probably. Management and above? Absolutely require prison time, or years of labour doing flood control work in the countries they've impacted. The worst realtors and developers will work off their debt to society building public housing.
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What I find funny is when rich Chinese investors pump sick loads of money into Congo's infrastructure to build it, we cry neocolonialism. But when they pump money to prop up a dangerous and risky economic timebomb in Canada, we have to consider the ~RACIAL SENSITIVITY~ before we consider it to be exploitative and malicious. It's a stupid lovely affair and people are right to be skeptical of foreign investment that perpetuates a problem. quote:Yeah Vancouver is literally China. Exactly the same except for a lack of air pollution, majority white Anglo population, one hour drive to the states, not a communist dictatorship, etc etc. how anyone can tell the difference is beyond me. Hahaha if you think China is communist
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Amgard posted:Hahaha if you think China is communist For a lot of people any government that is any sort of dictatorship is communist, unless it's an allied dictatorship.
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Okay, but it is a dictatorship. And don't fuckin say Canada is one, I'll cut you.
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It's a dictatorship, and it's run by a thing that calls itself the Communist Party. Hence, it's fair to call it a communist dictatorship. I think we're either splitting hairs to make communism look the way you want it to (not lovely in pretty much every real-world case), or engaging in some sort of No True Scotsman contest.
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PT6A posted:It's a dictatorship, and it's run by a thing that calls itself the Communist Party. Hence, it's fair to call it a communist dictatorship. I think we're either splitting hairs to make communism look the way you want it to (not lovely in pretty much every real-world case), or engaging in some sort of No True Scotsman contest. VVVV: Yours is better, don't want responding to my sarcasm to be the easy way out. Rime fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Feb 27, 2015 |
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North Korea is a democracy because it's called the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Also the nazi's were SOCIALISTS and the progressive conservatives were progressive. It's not our place to label governments based on their actions, we need to respect their self-identification.
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By that bar, Nazi German was a socialist utopia since they had on time trains.
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Seeming is being. I am a literal gullible child.
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PT6A posted:It's a dictatorship, and it's run by a thing that calls itself the Communist Party. Hence, it's fair to call it a communist dictatorship. I think we're either splitting hairs to make communism look the way you want it to (not lovely in pretty much every real-world case), or engaging in some sort of No True Scotsman contest. Uh no, that's incredibly loving stupid. ocrumsprug posted:By that bar, Nazi German was a socialist utopia since they had on time trains. Using PTs logic, it's because there's "socialism" right in the name.
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It's amazing how many people just sort of take things at face value without looking any deeper. Edit: at any point, it comforts me that most Canadians are too polite and milquetoast to ever attempt a serious genocide on the glorious Han race, so suck it down bitter people hahaha Vaginapocalypse fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Feb 27, 2015 |
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I bumped into my landlord in the hallway today. He's not one for small talk at all. I awkwardly asked him "hi, how'd the inspections go?" and he actually stopped, smiled at me, and said "They went fine, I like your train set, it's very cool". I'm 100% ok with privacy invasions if people compliment my train set.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd6ZwqLePC0 Watch this Jolly Irish fellow predicting a bust in Ireland in 2007, luckily it's different here™
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quote:It's a dictatorship, and it's run by a thing that calls itself the Communist Party. Hence, it's fair to call it a communist dictatorship. I think we're either splitting hairs to make communism look the way you want it to (not lovely in pretty much every real-world case), or engaging in some sort of No True Scotsman contest. So what it's called is more important than it's policies, legislation, or economic platform. Uh huh. Okay.
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The racism in this thread was much more entertaining when we were discussing Chinese people coming over to steal white women's corpses for marriage. You know what else goes through some crazy speculator- and superstition-driven inflation? Graveyard plots. Plots in Beijing have been increasing 30% in price year-on-year, and plots in the Chinese zones of Toronto graveyards are also drat expensive - anecdotally, my parents spent $20k on one that had just the right feng shui. Part of it is lack of graveyard space coupled with an aging population and a very strong cultural tendency amongst the older generation to prefer a burial to cremation. It will be pretty funny if Vancouver ends up with microsuite condos the literal size of a family plot 
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Weren't plots in Mountain View selling for north of $150k when they opened up a section a few years back?
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I'm gonna be very upset if my family doesn't let me bury them in a mausoleum I will construct in the back yard 
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Thank god most of my family is buried in the wasteland that is Windsor. Can't imagine that place is filling up any time soon. Plus the toxic waste has a non-zero chance of one day resurrecting me as a hella cool zombie
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Thank god most of my family is buried in the wasteland that is Windsor. Can't imagine that place is filling up any time soon. Maybe the Hum is to control the soon-to-rise undead horde?
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Ceciltron posted:I'm gonna be very upset if my family doesn't let me bury them in a mausoleum I will construct in the back yard I wish Toronto had a giant necropolis just hanging out in the city centre like in Buenos Aires. Very cool to wander around and see the craftsmanship that went into the tombs. We could replace the soon-to-be-defunct OCAD building with it!
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Rime posted:Weren't plots in Mountain View selling for north of $150k when they opened up a section a few years back? Check my post history. I posted some genuine Vancouver cemetery plot marketing/astroturf a few months back.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd6ZwqLePC0 lmao I like the bit in which the pro-home ownership toad harped on all the things that made the high prices justified. -Ireland doubled employment -Ireland housing prices were too low! -Euro revitalized the economy (just overlook how the corporate relocation was for tax evasion reasons) -Ireland has a young growing population and lots of immigrants which will only drive prices up -Vibrant economy with rapid growth -Fundamentals Fundamental Fundamentals! etalian fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Feb 28, 2015 |
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etalian posted:lmao I like the bit in which the pro-home ownership toad harped on all the things that made the high prices justified. Yeah that was painfull to watch, it's word for word everything people say here just with some country names changed.
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah that was painfull to watch, it's word for word everything people say here just with some country names changed. Yeah most of the "celtic tiger" was just smoke and mirrors since it was driven mainly by a massive influx of cheap credit thanks to suddenly getting integrated into the Eurozone and also how clever multi-national companies like Google realized it would make a handy cayman islands tax shelter for their Eurozone profits.  other tragedy of the bubble is many locally owned irish corporations basically went under and then got bought for pennies on the dollars by foreign investors like Blackrock, etalian fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Feb 28, 2015 |
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EvilJoven posted:OPEC will prob let prices rise but don't for a second think they wont turn around and body slam more expensive domestic production every time we fire it up again. It's not our domestic production they're slamming, although it will mitigate new project development somewhat. It helps canadian oil to keep us shale shut down. THC posted:Tar sand workers having to find new jobs is certainly no worse than the suffering they have inflicted upon others in their irresponsibility and their greed, digging up what is basically unburnable oil and deregulating everything that stands in their way. gently caress them. Yes, clearly the guy welding oil pipeline pieces together is a shameful human being because
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Kalenn Istarion posted:It's not our domestic production they're slamming, although it will mitigate new project development somewhat. It helps canadian oil to keep us shale shut down. The more important thing is the 100 dollar per barrel price was artificial creation created by asset bloat. Canadians hope the 50% price crash is a temporary thing but in reality will be a much longer term problem given various factors: -OPEC failed as a price control cartel due to backstabbing and bickering between members states -The commodity bubble created such massive increases in production and storage who knows how it will take reestablish equilibrium -Also related to the above it will take a good amount of time to idle production creating big deltas between the better known oil producing regions For example right now there's a 12 dollar delta to US oil benchmarks since the production downscaling process is still on-going: https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/oil-rebounds-ahead-of-us-rig-count-china-factory-data-2015-02-27 -Many economic areas like the Eurozone haven't been doing amazing in terms of economic growth due to various problems -Alberta was dumb, the province government assumed oil price would stay $75 a barrel in perpetuity.
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Also, we should never forget a Saudi oil minster once said "‘The Stone Age didn’t end because we ran out of stones. It ended because we invented bronze tools, which were more productive.” The Saudis are also looking at the technology on the horizon and seeing a future where the need for gasoline is much, much less. Every major auto-maker has a pure electric vehicle, either in development or production. Cheaper and/or lighter and/or more powerful battery technology will only increase the PEV/Hybrid market share.
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ductonius posted:Also, we should never forget a Saudi oil minster once said "‘The Stone Age didn’t end because we ran out of stones. It ended because we invented bronze tools, which were more productive.” Yeah the Saudis know they are pretty much screwed in the long run because green technology will get more financially compelling over time and also technological rapid advances in the energy sector makes it impossible for a OPEC style cartel to work due to other countries being able produce oil a competitive price point. also: 
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Yes, clearly the guy welding oil pipeline pieces together is a shameful human being because 
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PT6A posted:It's a dictatorship, and it's run by a thing that calls itself the Communist Party. Hence, it's fair to call it a communist dictatorship. I think we're either splitting hairs to make communism look the way you want it to (not lovely in pretty much every real-world case), or engaging in some sort of No True Scotsman contest. You can do better than this. And you will do better than this, because I'm your Professor. It's in my name, and if you get all red on me with your " NO YOU AREN'T!"s than maybe you should stop spitting hares and engorging sports on the No True Socialism contexts.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Yes, clearly the guy welding oil pipeline pieces together is a shameful human being because Exactly. I try to think of the little guy all the time. For example, I smoke cigarettes and encourage my friends and family to smoke cigarettes as well, regardless of age. Obviously the farmers picking tobacco aren't bad people and deserve our economic support.
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etalian posted:Yeah the Saudis know they are pretty much screwed in the long run because green technology will get more financially compelling over time and also technological rapid advances in the energy sector makes it impossible for a OPEC style cartel to work due to other countries being able produce oil a competitive price point. Wait till you see what happens to production in a year or so. My understanding of the situation is that if oil prices stay low for another year and drilling stays slow you're going to see something like a million barrels or more come off of the US market. As a side note there is one odd thing I've noticed, even with the low price of oil Alberta is still going to add a couple hundred thousand barrels of production over the next couple years. The timelines of the projects are so long that most projects that was more than half complete as of last year is going to get finished.
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Gorau posted:Wait till you see what happens to production in a year or so. My understanding of the situation is that if oil prices stay low for another year and drilling stays slow you're going to see something like a million barrels or more come off of the US market. As a side note there is one odd thing I've noticed, even with the low price of oil Alberta is still going to add a couple hundred thousand barrels of production over the next couple years. The timelines of the projects are so long that most projects that was more than half complete as of last year is going to get finished. Yeah basically idling or changing production is a not a instant process, which one more reason why the low price point will not go away anytime soon.
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