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PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!

Nasgate posted:

I killed Guldo first, then I killed enemies until they stopped spawning. The I turned in the balls. Suddenly 4 more open spots popped up.

Thanks. I did that but more spots didn't pop up so maybe it's an RNG thing or I didn't do it fast enough or who knows what. Thanks for the input though, I'll go back to it and try again.

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History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




PaybackJack posted:

I'm confused by how you're supposed to get 7 Dragon Balls as the 'secret mission' on PQ08. I defeat Guldo and then as soon as I deliver 3 the mission ends. Hell only 3 show up on my dragon radar. I destroyed some houses as well and nothing. Even if I could find the others I'm still confused on how you're supposed to deliver 7 when delivering 3 ends the scenario and you can only carry 2 at a time.


I'm kind of feeling like it's not a huge increase in chance of drops though so I wouldn't worry about it if you're trying to farm a specific drop.

It's probably just the "lol optional objectives don't always spawn " thing. Killing guldo and returning the three balls should prompt trunks to tell you he needs more balls and adds 4 more slots to fill. The extra balls won't spawn unless this triggers anyway.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


PaybackJack posted:

I'm confused by how you're supposed to get 7 Dragon Balls as the 'secret mission' on PQ08. I defeat Guldo and then as soon as I deliver 3 the mission ends. Hell only 3 show up on my dragon radar. I destroyed some houses as well and nothing. Even if I could find the others I'm still confused on how you're supposed to deliver 7 when delivering 3 ends the scenario and you can only carry 2 at a time.
the extra part of that pq is triggered by killing goldo before gathering all the dragon balls. all of the extra parts of pq's only have a chance of triggering, they won't always happen. keep doing it. forever.

5-Headed Snake God
Jun 12, 2008

Do you see how he's a cat?


cams posted:

also people think that higher rank = better chance of getting drops

I find this very unlikely, since the game tells you whether any given opponent has dropped something when that opponent goes down.

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?
Does anyone know off the top of their head what some of the Sword-related moves are? I know some moves make a sword materialize in your hand. I'm doing a Taipon-esque Frieza Clan dude, so I want sword stuff. I was going to do a sword Namek but it didn't make sense with his wavy arms. He's still got Yamcha's sword on his back because it looks cool with his armor.

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013
I'm convinced some of these 'beat in under 5 minutes' fights are busted. I can beat the Saibamen in under 4, and Nappa's only come out once. And sometimes I'll curbstomp Tien, Yamcha, and Krillin, only to not have Piccolo show up.

Davoren
Aug 14, 2003

The devil you say!

New Leaf posted:

Does anyone know off the top of their head what some of the Sword-related moves are? I know some moves make a sword materialize in your hand. I'm doing a Taipon-esque Frieza Clan dude, so I want sword stuff. I was going to do a sword Namek but it didn't make sense with his wavy arms. He's still got Yamcha's sword on his back because it looks cool with his armor.

The only good thing Yamcha ever did.

Prophecy120
Feb 4, 2003

God Bless the Enclave! God Bless America!

Davoren posted:

The only good thing Yamcha ever did.

Yamcha's skill list actually includes the Super "Play Dead". :goku:

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

I enjoy using afterimage and dodging people's dumb loving attacks for free

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!

cams posted:

the extra part of that pq is triggered by killing goldo before gathering all the dragon balls. all of the extra parts of pq's only have a chance of triggering, they won't always happen. keep doing it. forever.

Not always - I specifically ignored Guldo and my allies didn't defeat him. I turned in 3 and got the bonus.

It is RNG. This game really, really wants to be an MMO.

Veg
Oct 13, 2008

:smug::smug::xd:
Well, poo poo. I finally got the z-soul for Vegetas mentor, and finished up the rest of his fights to get Final Flash.

I feel completely overpowered now, I have Galick Gun and Final Flash with the z-soul that increases Vegeta abilities damage. On top of that, the ultimate you get from your first wish just absolutely crushes anything when you launch an enemy and fire it at them.

I have only finished Frieza saga in story mode, bring on the cell games :swoon:

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008

Holy god drat do you get a lot of experience for killing Denigra with Beerus. I played that mission 5 times over and got a level every single time. Gonna farm the poo poo out of this tonight.

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

I really like clowning people in 1v1s

3v3s are kind of fun though

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.

projecthalaxy posted:

I love how they justified not including Buutenks, Buuhan, and Super Vegito in the game. Alright you and Gohan successfully fended off base Super Buu! OK KABLAM MOVE ALONG KID BUU TIME

I do think Super Vegito is in the game in one PQ, same way how Imperfect Cell was modeled and featured in a cinematic during the Android Saga and then he's never seen again. There's some weird stuff they did in favor of making everyone purple.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
drat this thread is moving fast now

I am getting my rear end handed to me by SSJ Vegeta.

Seems like healing capsules or whatever they're called can kinda let you cheese / brute force any mission though, is there any limit to how many you can use? They're not that hard to craft either.

Esroc
May 31, 2010

Goku would be ashamed of you.
I feel like a dumbass. I was doing great, then all of a sudden I kept dying all the time. I thought it was my armor so kept switching clothes only to die again. Then I realized I didn't read the text on Vegeta's Z-Soul and it says that while boosting the Galick Gun it also whittles down your HP during use.

I dun reed gud.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Boy old man Trunks is just not pulling his weight against Beerus and Whis. I wish I could bring in Cell or SS4 Vegeta instead.

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

Zaphod42 posted:

Seems like healing capsules or whatever they're called can kinda let you cheese / brute force any mission though, is there any limit to how many you can use? They're not that hard to craft either.

You can only bring four into a quest, and they have to be four different ones so you can't just bring four regen z capsules or whatever they are called either.

free hubcaps
Oct 12, 2009

Holy poo poo this bardock mission is the worst loving escort quest I've ever seen

Has anyone done this? Any tips at all? I've only actually had bardock survive till frieza once in the 5 or 6 times I've tried it.

Gameplay, cac and everything is so so good but I honestly don't remember a game that has made me want to break my controller as often as this one does. I can accept the AI cheating like a motherfucker to maintain some semblance of challenge, but having your success depend entirely on your lovely AI partner not dying while fighting fifteen mooks and then a dual health bar frieza is irredeemable bullshit.

free hubcaps fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Mar 1, 2015

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?

ZenVulgarity posted:

I enjoy using afterimage and dodging people's dumb loving attacks for free

I can never get that to work..

5-Headed Snake God
Jun 12, 2008

Do you see how he's a cat?


projecthalaxy posted:

Boy old man Trunks is just not pulling his weight against Beerus and Whis. I wish I could bring in Cell or SS4 Vegeta instead.

I dunno, I thought he did okay. He kept them busy long enough for me to nearly kill one of them. With one down the fight was pretty easy.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


Anthrovore posted:

Holy poo poo this bardock mission is the worst loving escort quest I've ever seen

Has anyone done this? Any tips at all? I've only actually had bardock survive till frieza once in the 5 or 6 times I've tried it.

Gameplay, cac and everything is so so good but I honestly don't remember a game that has made me want to break my controller as often as this one does.
lol i just tried this mission for the first time

when it went to the cutscene i was all "phew, thank god, bardock was almost dead"

and then frieza came out

yeah i have no idea how to keep that dumb gently caress alive.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Maleketh posted:

I dunno, I thought he did okay. He kept them busy long enough for me to nearly kill one of them. With one down the fight was pretty easy.

Can I ask what level you were at? I'm 35 with a 20 in health and I'm getting basically stunlocked and two-shotted with Spheres of Destruction.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Sweet, hit level 20 and got shine shot.

I guess all that's left now is Final Flash and then I'm done with Vegeta :cool:

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.
Keeping Bardock alive is loving tough, no doubt. The way how I was able to beat it is constantly switch between opponents. If you just focus on KOing one after the other you and Bardock are both gonna end up fighting 2vs1 and while you're able to handle that Bardock sure as poo poo isn't. So if you keep hitting everybody you reduce the likelihood that Bardock is gonna get ganged up on. If you notice that you have 3 guys facing you/near you and Bardock is on the other side of the map having a 1vs1 then you can get away with killing one or two dudes.

The best case scenario is you finish beating 15 guys and Bardock has more than 75% health. At this point it's a race against the clock cause you're gonna be fighting Frieza 1vs1 and Bardock is gonna be fighting 4vs1. He WILL die if you take too long to beat Frieza.

That's why when people complain about the Mini Buu mission it just makes me laugh. That ain't anywhere close to the toughest fight.

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


Anthrovore posted:

Holy poo poo this bardock mission is the worst loving escort quest I've ever seen

Has anyone done this? Any tips at all? I've only actually had bardock survive till frieza once in the 5 or 6 times I've tried it.

I spammed Hercule's "everyone target me now" ultimate and got through it no problem.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice

Zaphod42 posted:

Sweet, hit level 20 and got shine shot.

I guess all that's left now is Final Flash and then I'm done with Vegeta :cool:

How do you get Vegeta as a mentor? I'm at 30something and have yet to see him pop

5-Headed Snake God
Jun 12, 2008

Do you see how he's a cat?


projecthalaxy posted:

Can I ask what level you were at? I'm 35 with a 20 in health and I'm getting basically stunlocked and two-shotted with Spheres of Destruction.

Eh, I don't remember. I think I'm currently in the high 30s, so around 35 was about right.

I'm going to reiterate that Ultra Fighting Bomber has saved my rear end time and again. Tons of damage and it can hit multiple foes.

flyboi posted:

How do you get Vegeta as a mentor? I'm at 30something and have yet to see him pop

I think he's available once you unlock him.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice
I must grind PQs too much :o:

UberJumper
May 20, 2007
woop

BattleCattle posted:

Piccolo's Light Grenade is an example.

Kamehameha/Nightmare Beam for whatever reason to charge you need to hold the button down. :iiam:

How the hell do i counter the AI doing constant evasive moves like super explosive wave? They seem to go more or less invincible, and it becomes extremely frusturating watching Goku chain it 5+ times in a row effectively killing Vegeta (who i was trying to protect).

Also why does SSJ4 Vegeta seem so weak? Do the other characthers scale to your characters level?

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
i want to punch the game designer in the face who thought the cell jr fight and the small buu fight were great ideas

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money
I just found out what this game was like and now regret not pre-ordering it and now I missed out on the shiny fancy pants. I want to be a freezer.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS
So which one of you cheeky bastards is Sperglord Firecock? There's no way that's not a goon name.

Red Alert 2 Yuris Revenge
May 8, 2006

"My brain is amazing! It's full of wrinkles, and... Uh... Wait... What am I trying to say?"
So I guess around the android saga pqs is where the game gives up pretending that every dude isn't an infinite stamina health bag that ignores the dudes I brought with me.

5-Headed Snake God
Jun 12, 2008

Do you see how he's a cat?


Contest Winner posted:

So I guess around the android saga pqs is where the game gives up pretending that every dude isn't an infinite stamina health bag that ignores the dudes I brought with me.

Pretty much. I can't say luck isn't a factor in late-game PQs.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


i just realized the pc version of this game is constantly loving up my mouse sensitivity. anyone else?

Esroc
May 31, 2010

Goku would be ashamed of you.
So are the PC servers just dead? Haven't been able to play online at all today.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Man, just like in the show, Krillin keeps on dying during missions, and its really annoying.

Snowcow
Oct 17, 2007

projecthalaxy posted:

I love how they justified not including Buutenks, Buuhan, and Super Vegito in the game. Alright you and Gohan successfully fended off base Super Buu! OK KABLAM MOVE ALONG KID BUU TIME

Super Vegito is playable, fwiw.

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projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Snowcow posted:

Super Vegito is playable, fwiw.

Well that makes it make even less sense!

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