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Gwaihir posted:This being the laptop thread, 8.1 is actually legitimately much better in many ways on things that matter for laptops like power usage and sleep/hibernate/resume. Not from what I've seen. The only area where 8/8.1 is significantly faster is boot time - not resume from sleep or hibernation or even restarts (which still do a full cold start). And yes I am using 8.1 on my own systems, 7 on work devices.
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8.1 is generally a better OS - it uses the exact same kernel as WS2012 R2, only with the 'Desktop User' role enabled. I highly reccomend 8.1 + Classic Start for personal use. Other than having to install Classic Start, Microsoft did a really great job on 8.1, they managed to scrub all the Steven Sinofsky out of the OS and it's actually quite good now. I waited a year before jumping from 7 to 8 and I thnk that's a reasonable amount of time; there's no reason to be creaking along on 7 2.5 years after the release date. I'm looking forward to 10, but I'm going to wait 6 months for the bugs and driver situation to get sorted out before upgrading.
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The Iron Rose posted:With a start menu replacer there's literally no difference between the UIs of Windows 7 and Windows 8.
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silence_kit posted:How is the lag between putting your pen down and drawing when using the Lenovo stylus? Is it noticeable? Is there noticeable error in the position of your pen tip and where you draw on the screen? Does your stylus need to be battery powered? How is the palm rejection when using the pen? Is it good? It's a bog standard wacom stylus. No lag, no battery, total palm rejection. The pen tip to screen position isn't one hundred percent but honestly I think I just suck at calibrating it.
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Hadlock posted:8.1 is generally a better OS - it uses the exact same kernel as WS2012 R2, only with the 'Desktop User' role enabled. I highly reccomend 8.1 + Classic Start for personal use. Other than having to install Classic Start, Microsoft did a really great job on 8.1, they managed to scrub all the Steven Sinofsky out of the OS and it's actually quite good now. I waited a year before jumping from 7 to 8 and I thnk that's a reasonable amount of time; there's no reason to be creaking along on 7 2.5 years after the release date. It's still much uglier though
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Honestly, after a month with 8.1, win 7 looks just as dated as vista or xp. Your brain adjusts and life moves on, it's different but no less functional.
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Hadlock posted:Honestly, after a month with 8.1, win 7 looks just as dated as vista or xp. Your brain adjusts and life moves on, it's different but no less functional. Not what I've found at all - 7 still looks coherent, 8.1 still looks like a hot mess
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Is there something specific I should be looking for when looking at Thinkpads? The OP seems to be about 2 years old and implied Lenovo was sapping and impurifying their precious bodily magnesium frames.
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Well, finally got this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834318421&cm_re=T430-_-34-318-421-_-Product. It came with the 1600x900, even though it says 1300x768. Maybe they ran out of 1600x900 after I ordered mine or something, it didn't specify before. Pretty happy with an i5, 8gb RAM, 180GB SSD, and 1600x900 display for $420. This thing is chunkier than I was expecting. I've installed a couple T440s at customer sites, and they were super thin and light. Did that change with the 440 generation, or was it some suffix like s or p or some poo poo designating a size change? Downside, when I plug in or unplug the computer, the screen shuts off for about a second after maybe 3 seconds. I'm going to post in the hardware smal questions, but has anyone seen that before? The power cable stays in, unlike my old computer, so it isn't too much of an issue. But it still sucks to have on a new-to-me computer.
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Fake edit: T440 is 0.83", T430 is 1.2"  So yeah the T440 is 70% the thickness of a T430. Hooray forward march of progress. Your display should not be doing that, at least my x230 does not and I'm pretty sure they share similar display power systems. Try, uh, shutting downthe laptop, removing the battery for 10 minutes and then putting it back in and starting it back up. I doubt this will do anything but maybe your laptop is calibrated for an old battery. There's a lenovo battery utility, I suggest you use it, as it will give you a status code that Lenovo Thinkpad support is going to ask you for anyways. Hadlock fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Feb 28, 2015 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:
It's probably changing to a lower refresh rate on battery - there should be a setting to stop it doing that in the Intel graphics control panel.
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So still shopping around. I almost pulled the trigger on the $400 Flex 2 15 from the Lenovo outlet, but the site went down and they ran out of stock. Now I'm back to square one. Two questions: 1.) Are there any other good sites to shop for refurbished laptops? 2.) I've noticed that a lot of refurb laptops in the bargain pricerange that I'm looking for either have an i5 with Windows 7 or an i3 with Windows 8. Having never used a Windows 8 machine before, should I stick with the better processor on the older OS, or is it worth holding out for something with the newer OS?
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dissss posted:It's probably changing to a lower refresh rate on battery - there should be a setting to stop it doing that in the Intel graphics control panel. That was it.
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My Sager 8651 arrived : It's really loud. It looks and feels well-made, and is about half the thickness of the ASUS ROG laptop from 4 years ago it replaced. I expected the fans to be loud during CPU/vid intensive things, but the idle noise is unpleasantly high as well. No other complaints.
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So it would seem that in preparation for the new y50 release next month Lenovo is dumping their current inventory.  I don't know what the price on the new y50 is going to be when it's launched but googling puts it at ~$1275 for the bare bones version, and probably ~$1400 for a one with a non hybrid SSD. Is the current screen so bad that it'll be worth the $300 price difference?
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KodiakRS posted:
The new MSI GE62 lists for 1299USD and has a significantly faster GTX965m. They also really toned down the ugly. If the Y50 is actually going to be shipping close to 1300 dollars, the MSI might be a nice alternative.  image source: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/laptops/2015/02/19/msi-ge62-2qe-apache-review/1
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What is the pro method of wiping and installing Windows on a new XPS 13? I haven't gotten a new computer from a manufacturer in ages. Do they still send a CD that I need to image onto a bootable thumb drive? Same question for my old Lenovo X120E. I'd like to reinstall windows 7 but I don't have the CD or anything anymore. How would I get the image and would I just use some imaging software (such as?) to make a bootable USB?
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French Canadian posted:What is the pro method of wiping and installing Windows on a new XPS 13? I haven't gotten a new computer from a manufacturer in ages. Do they still send a CD that I need to image onto a bootable thumb drive? The XPS 13 comes with like, maybe two pieces of bloatware - McAfee and something else that I forget uninstalling. It is way more effort than it's worth to wipe and reinstall. edit: Just googled it, the other two pieces are flipboard and a dropbox 1 year 20 gb trial, both unobtrusive. there's no point in reinstalling
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French Canadian posted:What is the pro method of wiping and installing Windows on a new XPS 13? I haven't gotten a new computer from a manufacturer in ages. Do they still send a CD that I need to image onto a bootable thumb drive? As mentioned, you don't need to do it on the XPS13. If you really want to I believe you can download an OEM 8 image and it'll recognize the key built into the computer (haven't done this on a recent computer yet so I'm not 100%). For 7, you can download the image from Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-recovery) and then use Rufus (https://rufus.akeo.ie/) to make a bootable USB.
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Grimson posted:edit: Just googled it, the other two pieces are flipboard and a dropbox 1 year 20 gb trial, both unobtrusive. there's no point in reinstalling
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KodiakRS posted:So it would seem that in preparation for the new y50 release next month Lenovo is dumping their current inventory. Our office gives us discounts on personal purchases from Dell, usually barely less than what you can get at Best Buy (i.e. not worth it), and all of a sudden Dell started sending me advertisements for crazy deals every week for the first time in 5 years. Like, $250 for a 14" laptop that normally lists at $350, which doesn't sound like much but $130 off a brand new, already low margin product like that is huge. Usually you see those kinds of deals on refurb models.
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Hadlock posted:Our office gives us discounts on personal purchases from Dell, usually barely less than what you can get at Best Buy (i.e. not worth it), and all of a sudden Dell started sending me advertisements for crazy deals every week for the first time in 5 years. Like, $250 for a 14" laptop that normally lists at $350, which doesn't sound like much but $130 off a brand new, already low margin product like that is huge. Usually you see those kinds of deals on refurb models. Bear in mind that, as Skylake comes out this fall, Broadwell will have been the shortest Intel generation in recent memory. Dell isn't the only vendor trying to sell soon-to-be outdated stock like crazy right now.
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Intel isn't rolling out Sky Lake to mobile until 2016, so Broadwell still has ~3 quarters of life in it, maybe 5 if they wait until summer 2016. Desktop is skipping Broadwell entirely and going to Sky Lake in ~late September/early October. My plan this year is get a retina Macbook Air (although the new x250 is looking pretty good with the 1080p touchscreen, will have to wait and see), and then replace my aging first gen i5-750 desktop with 6th gen i5-6xxx Sky Lake before Star Wars Battlefront comes out this ~October.
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Yeah, Dell has some great deals right now. They just gave my mother in law $150 off the XPS13.
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah, Dell has some great deals right now. They just gave my mother in law $150 off the XPS13. By just asking,?!
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They sent out some coupons I think.
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I don't know if this is still true but typically if you get one of those chat box people while browsing Dell's site and you give them specifics (i.e. "my buddy got a coupon for an XPS 13 for $XYY.xx price with (specific part numbers)" they will try and closely match that price given to someone else. Dell would rather sell you a new laptop for a profit than give up that sale to another company.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Well, finally got this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834318421&cm_re=T430-_-34-318-421-_-Product. It came with the 1600x900, even though it says 1300x768. Maybe they ran out of 1600x900 after I ordered mine or something, it didn't specify before. Pretty happy with an i5, 8gb RAM, 180GB SSD, and 1600x900 display for $420. very tempted to order this for my parents, but both reviews complain about busted parts despite the refurb -- one about the ssd, the other about the battery/power cable. how did yours arrive? also, I'm guessing the limited warranty isn't covered by lenovo
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FAUXTON posted:Is there something specific I should be looking for when looking at Thinkpads? The OP seems to be about 2 years old and implied Lenovo was sapping and impurifying their precious bodily magnesium frames. T4*0s series are effectively the new standard, rather than the T4*0 base models. Unless you really want to have an Ultrabay and can live with a non-IPS screen.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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JohnnyTreachery posted:very tempted to order this for my parents, but both reviews complain about busted parts despite the refurb -- one about the ssd, the other about the battery/power cable. how did yours arrive? also, I'm guessing the limited warranty isn't covered by lenovo I haven't run down the battery all the way to make sure it lasts as long as it says it should. There have been a couple weird things, like the screen refresh rate changing on or off battery. Also if I've got the cable plugged in and tilt the PC forward, it thinks there's no battery. If I unplug it and tilt it forward, it works just fine. Don't know what that's about. It's just fine for me, who knows how to troubleshoot a computer and can ask the internet for help, but I don't know that I'd recommend it for someone less computer-literate.
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Can anyone explain why Lenovo Y40-80s are so cheap considering what components are included? They can't be liquidating old stock since these are Broadwells, but ~600-700 for what you get seems way too good to be true. Reviews say the screen isn't great but I can't seem to find many other negatives other than that the machine itself is an eyesore. http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptop...eals+LLC&NID=CJ Deal code USPY4CUS219 Bigass Moth fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Mar 1, 2015 |
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Bigass Moth posted:Can anyone explain why Lenovo Y40-80s are so cheap considering what components are included? They can't be liquidating old stock since these are Broadwells, but ~600-700 for what you get seems way too good to be true. Reviews say the screen isn't great but I can't seem to find many other negatives other than that the machine itself is an eyesore. Holy poo poo! Computer error on their part maybe? Buy that i7 and 512SSD model right now! Edit: the IPS/GTX960 Y50 is also listed now. $1299 which kind of makes the MSI GE62 look more appealing. Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Mar 1, 2015 |
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17.3" HP Envy for $500.00 Giant screen aside, this seems like a fairly decent buy. One of the IT guys that I work with digs Envies; hows it look?
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Strange Matter posted:17.3" HP Envy for $500.00 It's a decent amount of PC for $500 (the i5 is nice). I mean, I guess it's okay if you have to have a new 17.3inch laptop on the cheap. I don't think I could stand the size or low resolution display, but those are the trade-offs you come across when shopping for 500 dollar or less computers.
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SouthLAnd posted:It's a decent amount of PC for $500 (the i5 is nice). I mean, I guess it's okay if you have to have a new 17.3inch laptop on the cheap. I don't think I could stand the size or low resolution display, but those are the trade-offs you come across when shopping for 500 dollar or less computers.
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Strange Matter posted:Honestly the 17.3" is more of a compromise to get the other features than it is a feature on its own. Very true. Lenovo sells a FHD 15.6 Z50 for a bit under 600 dollars if that's more in your size range. It has an ULV i7, which should still be plenty quick. If they update it with Broadwell soon, it might even be more enticing.
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Just a reminder to folks with 'gaming laptops' and pets that you should periodically clean all the loving fur out of your fans and vents.
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Can someone please recommend a laptop for my Mum? Cheap and small would be ideal, something in the 13" range. Should be Windows as she is used to that.
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go3 posted:Just a reminder to folks with 'gaming laptops' and pets that you should periodically clean all the loving fur out of your fans and vents. Or don't, and then put it up on craigslist for super cheap so that people who know what they're doing get a laptop for a fraction of the price.
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