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Being Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces is a political position. Also, he was a Governor 
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SNAKES N CAKES posted:Neither did Eisenhower. Eisenhower was amazing at politics and made Monty feel the inferior commander he really was.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:17
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SNAKES N CAKES posted:Neither did Eisenhower. Eisenhower was a military leader and an outstanding politician. Just because you haven't held political office doesn't mean you don't know how to work people over. Carson is a good neurosurgeon, but he's got a 13-year-old's view of the world. E: Read Jean Edward Smith's "Eisenhower in War and Peace". As biographies go, it's a fantastic portrait of the man. He was basically the only army general aside from maybe Marshall who had people skills. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 1, 2015 22:47
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Alter Ego posted:Carson is a good neurosurgeon, but he's got a 13-year-old's view of the world.
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Mar 1, 2015 23:24
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Raskolnikov38 posted:He's not a guaranteed shoe in because if there's one group that hates Cruz more than the national GOP it's the Perry machine for loving over dewhurst in his senate campaign. Cruz pissed off the Perry Machine by becoming a U.S. Senator, that's hardly a bad move politically. The only political malpractice would be the Perry machine holding a grudge, look at Mitch McConnell vis-a-vis Rand Paul.
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Mar 1, 2015 23:32
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Joementum posted:Being Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces is a political position. Just all the bullshit he had to put up with from Monty and the Free French made him more than qualified to be president.
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Mar 1, 2015 23:48
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Malloreon posted:Does Rubio's completely fabricated "my parents were escaping Castro and seeking freedom in America" story and the subsequent admission they left years before the takeover disqualify him? Absolutely no effect on his qualifications. On the other hand he's a Florida RINO in the same race as Jeb. What's loving him over is trying to do something on Immigration and Jeb Bush kneecapping him at the base. No one in Florida is going to back Rubio over Jeb, and without a fundraising base of support there's no where for him to go nationally. Also since no one but him and Senator Menedez actually care about the embargo he's got no issues to run on. Unless he wants to dig his grave even further by running on Immigration, which Jeb Bush also has taken from him. Between W and Jeb it looks like dark haired white people are the only one's getting a fair shake.
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Mar 2, 2015 00:11
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Just all the bullshit he had to put up with from Monty and the Free French made him more than qualified to be president. when de Gaulle wanted a french regiment to liberate Paris Eisenhower was like "ok but it has to be all white frenchmen" de Gaulle then had to mix and match because he didn't have an all-white regiment eisenhower was poo poo they were all poo poo
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Mar 2, 2015 00:14
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except for marshall? maybe
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Mar 2, 2015 00:14
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V. Illych L. posted:except for marshall? maybe
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Mar 2, 2015 00:24
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V. Illych L. posted:when de Gaulle wanted a french regiment to liberate Paris Eisenhower was like "ok but it has to be all white frenchmen" Eisenhower made up for it with the 1958 Civil Rights Act, though.
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Mar 2, 2015 00:36
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But think of what Rubio will have had to do in order to make it to the general. He will have to literally camp out on the banks of the Rio Grande, and fire a rifle at Mexicans.
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Mar 2, 2015 00:45
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A couple people have mentioned it already, but the fun thing about Cruz is that I can't see him ever giving up and conceding defeat. I can imagine him taking his one or two states all the way to the convention, trying his damnedest to cause a brokered convention, starting a write-in campaign, going to court to demand a recount after the final numbers are in, then fleeing back to Canada to raise an army after declaring himself President In Exile.
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Mar 2, 2015 01:17
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Ted Cruz is a failed politician, if he vanished into the warp and a democrat popped out in his place his party would actually get MORE done. So unless Ted Cruz is a terminator sent to us from the future to destroy the Republican party, he's not achieving his goals.
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Mar 2, 2015 01:20
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Venom Snake posted:Ted Cruz is a failed politician, if he vanished into the warp and a democrat popped out in his place his party would actually get MORE done. So unless Ted Cruz is a terminator sent to us from the future to destroy the Republican party, he's not achieving his goals. Only if Ted Cruz was supposed to care about anyone but Ted Cruz.
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Mar 2, 2015 01:22
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computer parts posted:Only if Ted Cruz was supposed to care about anyone but Ted Cruz.
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Mar 2, 2015 01:28
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computer parts posted:Only if Ted Cruz was supposed to care about anyone but Ted Cruz. Considering how he actively sabotages himself at every corner he most really be into being dominated.
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Mar 2, 2015 01:30
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Yeah Ted Cruz is a demagogue who is positioning himself to be the biggest speaking draw on the right after his political career flames out. He's like Newt without the desire to do business or even ambitions of benevolently ruling the world. I don't know what he wants but I keep getting flashes of an endless plain covered in bones.
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Mar 2, 2015 01:33
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Deteriorata posted:Eisenhower made up for it with the 1958 Civil Rights Act, though. And with integrating the US military.
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Mar 2, 2015 01:33
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Venom Snake posted:Ted Cruz is a failed politician, if he vanished into the warp and a democrat popped out in his place his party would actually get MORE done. So unless Ted Cruz is a terminator sent to us from the future to destroy the Republican party, he's not achieving his goals. Ted Cruz is an extremely successful politician by most metrics, that's not mutually exclusive with him harming his party's national ambition. The things that have made Cruz successful are the same things that will (hopefully) prevent him from ever becoming his party's nominee, but they are certainly the only reason he's even in the conversation. DynamicSloth fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 2, 2015 01:50
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Warcabbit posted:And with integrating the US military. frustrated_Truman_punching_own_hat.gif
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Mar 2, 2015 01:54
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Skeevy Mcgee posted:A couple people have mentioned it already, but the fun thing about Cruz is that I can't see him ever giving up and conceding defeat. I can imagine him taking his one or two states all the way to the convention, trying his damnedest to cause a brokered convention, starting a write-in campaign, going to court to demand a recount after the final numbers are in, then fleeing back to Canada to raise an army after declaring himself President In Exile. If Rand runs like his pappy then Republicans are in for a lot of annoyed sighs with two relentless assholes continuing on no matter what to the Convention. One primarily because he's an rear end and the other primarily because he's a conman, both united in the pursuit of the sweet, sweet, payday.
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Mar 2, 2015 02:15
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DynamicSloth posted:Ted Cruz is an extremely successful politician by most metrics, that's not mutually exclusive with him harming his party's national ambition. If you count "being elected" as the metric to go by, but he's achieved none of his policy goals.
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Mar 2, 2015 02:16
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Ted Cruz is basically Rorschach.
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Mar 2, 2015 02:40
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I see Ted Cruz as basically a sniveling little poo poo, but my dad sees a conservative warrior-scholar. HELP!
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Mar 2, 2015 02:44
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Aliquid posted:I see Ted Cruz as basically a sniveling little poo poo, but my dad sees a conservative warrior-scholar. HELP!
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Mar 2, 2015 02:51
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Nessus posted:For most presidential candidates, I have the feeling they are at least above average in intelligence. Even W. just wasn't very articulate - and perhaps not intellectually curious. But he wasn't "dumb" except perhaps in comparison to Al Gore. Similarly, other people may be insane but they aren't necessarily 'stupid'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Presidential_IQ_hoax#IQ_estimations_by_academics (there was a hoax, but there are actual estimates of presidential iq here) looks like GWB has 125-130 iq. The dude is not at all dumb, but he's one of the dumbest presidents. This really surprised me since I thought GWB had an iq of like, 105 max. Yeah, Walker has a really dumb face. Not sure if he is actually dumb since all I know about him is people saying he busted unions.
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Mar 2, 2015 02:56
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I see a good number of "Ted Cruz for President!" stickers and signs around. I know stickers and signs don't vote but the people that subscribe to his sanctimonious way of "sticking it to the liberals/RINOs/
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Mar 2, 2015 03:00
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What's John Bolton's background? How did he become a UN ambassador despite being, as far as I can tell, a bloodlusted warmonger?
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Mar 2, 2015 03:04
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gradenko_2000 posted:What's John Bolton's background? How did he become a UN ambassador despite being, as far as I can tell, a bloodlusted warmonger? The Presidential administration of George W. Bush was very bad and made bad decisions.
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redreader posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Presidential_IQ_hoax#IQ_estimations_by_academics  "Histometry" is essentially the invention of one guy with no actual scientific basis. It's as credible as phrenology. He could just be making up numbers out of thin air and no one would know the difference as there is no way to cross-check his results with another methodology.
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Mar 2, 2015 03:08
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redreader posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Presidential_IQ_hoax#IQ_estimations_by_academics Bush wasn't necessarily stupid, he just has brain damage from decades of drug and alcohol abuse.
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Mar 2, 2015 03:38
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Walker officially flip-flops on amnesty, will say or do whatever is necessary to gain nomination: Scott Walker on immigration: my view has changed
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Mar 2, 2015 03:47
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He should stick to his guns if he wants to win the nomination like noted gun-stickers John McCain and Mitt Romney.
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Mar 2, 2015 03:54
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Aliquid posted:I see Ted Cruz as basically a sniveling little poo poo, but my dad sees a conservative warrior-scholar. HELP! Point out that if he were either of those things, he would have taken up the offer to go on The Daily Show. That he hasn't indicates he's even afraid of a comedian. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 2, 2015 03:54
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gradenko_2000 posted:What's John Bolton's background? How did he become a UN ambassador despite being, as far as I can tell, a bloodlusted warmonger? Reagan/Bush admin flack -> AEI -> Bush admin flack -> UN
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Mar 2, 2015 03:59
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Deep Hurting posted:Bush wasn't necessarily stupid, he just has brain damage from decades of drug and alcohol abuse. That latter part is surely true, but I've yet to see much to suggest that wasn't W a complete dumbass before he fried what few cognitive abilities he might have previously had. *delicately lays post down on trigger of a bear trap* *hides behind cover while awaiting Sedan Chair's approach*
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Mar 2, 2015 05:09
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Wabbit posted:Walker officially flip-flops on amnesty, will say or do whatever is necessary to gain nomination: Also addresses the whole protesters/terrorists thing: quote:The Republican governor, who is weighing a bid for the White House, also responded to criticisms that he compared the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant to Wisconsin union protesters during a CPAC appearance last week, saying then: “If I could take on 100,000 protesters, I can do the same across the world.” Which, while bananas, is totally in line with conventional Republican ideology. This seemed like what he was getting at before, frankly, but in case anyone was confused. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 2, 2015 05:15
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Even with that explanation, having protesters like that is not at all comparable to dealing with armed terrorists in terms of pressure.
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Deep Hurting posted:Bush wasn't necessarily stupid, he just has brain damage from decades of drug and alcohol abuse. I'm reading Days of Fire right now ("even handed" summary of the W Bush Administration) and one of his biggest problems was it took him forever to figure out that his speeches weren't just heard by Americans, but by the entire world, which went a long way in alienating allies and inciting terrorists in the Middle East. He was so isolated and uncurious about the world that he just didn't get it that a cocky, swaggery speech that killed with "the base" maybe had the opposite effect when heard by people in France or Turkey or Afghanistan. In terms of pure intelligence, he wasn't "dumb", you can't be legit dumb and get elected President (yet, thank God), but he was both inexperienced as a politician and woefully uneducated and uninterested in world events, so he delegated to people who turned out to be shortsighted, incompetent, or evil. And like redreader said, while he isn't "dumb" (probably has an IQ of 115-120), he's definitely one of the dumbest Presidents, if not the dumbest.
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