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Halo14 posted:Oh man...
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The PM of Australia is incapable of understanding that we're detaining and torturing children* to the point of self harm and suicide attempts. AND THAT THE CHILDREN* ARE STILL IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS. *and adults
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Halo14 posted:Oh man... Joe Hockey attempts to keep Prime Minister Tony Abbott entertained with a rousing game of peekaboo.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 05:38 |
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kingcom posted:Joe Hockey attempts to keep Prime Minister Tony Abbott entertained with a rousing game of peekaboo. reversed order for extra lols
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ewe2 posted:This is the other selling point of putting Bishop in. Meanwhile Morrison plays Economic Safe Hands and Bishop mysteriously gives way for the Best Interests of the Party. Win-win, dump a woman and claim clean hands. Bishop is the perfect Downer, she doesn't even have to get anything right, she just has to be the fall guy. There is no way the Liberal party would keep her in for an election unless they planned to lose it.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/us/eavesdropping-ensnared-american-law-firm.html?_r=0quote:The government of Indonesia had retained the law firm for help in trade talks, according to the February 2013 document. It reports that the N.S.A.’s Australian counterpart, the Australian Signals Directorate, notified the agency that it was conducting surveillance of the talks, including communications between Indonesian officials and the American law firm, and offered to share the information.
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SynthOrange posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/us/eavesdropping-ensnared-american-law-firm.html?_r=0 Christ, is there nothing the former Labor government wouldn't do? I fully expect a royal commission into the illegal acts of the former Labor government and I trust that former Labor government will be held accountable for its misdeeds.
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Jonah Galtberg posted:I haven't posted anything to it though? I should've known that it couldn't've been you, since it was funny and not insufferable
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Hello thread. It's a shame all this build up to the NSW election is just going to lead to a retained Lib government. The QLD election was such a nice surprise So the censure against Brandis pretty much means "the sitting government disapproves of what you did". Seems fairly toothless.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Hello thread. It's a shame all this build up to the NSW election is just going to lead to a retained Lib government. If QLD taught us anything its that polls that use preference assumptions from 'wave' elections are not very good at predicting what will happen once the wave recedes. http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2015/03/why-the-baird-government-is-vulnerable.html
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V for Vegas posted:If QLD taught us anything its that polls that use preference assumptions from 'wave' elections are not very good at predicting what will happen once the wave recedes. Just the headline cheers me up
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Thanks for the help guys, some of those links are excellent and really help. Zetsubou-san and trunkh message me to be showered in gifts.
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V for Vegas posted:If QLD taught us anything its that polls that use preference assumptions from 'wave' elections are not very good at predicting what will happen once the wave recedes. Might be a repost but Bonham's got a long analysis of the polls too, and comes to a broadly similar conclusion quote:Overall it is very hard for Labor to win this unless Canberra factors trash the Coalition's primary even more. The current 2PP is enough to very likely withstand a Queensland-style change in preferences, the change in preferences probably won't be as large anyway, and the Canberra factor might be close to maxing out even if Abbott survives. The Coalition won't be going to this one asking minor party voters to preference a party that was about to lose its leader's seat. Also think this is the key thing to take away: quote:I do, however, have doubts that the preferencing shift in NSW will be as strong [as in Qld]. Mike Baird isn't Campbell Newman; his government may be disliked by left-wingers, but doesn't bring out the same level of loathing reserved for the Newmans and Abbotts of this world. It is unclear whether a "put the Coalition last" campaign will have the same appeal as "put the LNP last" did in Queensland. And whereas Queensland Labor was seen as a small Opposition bravely recovering against almost insurmountable odds (the haplessness of the later Bligh days now forgotten), the NSW ALP may be more scarred by the damage done by Obeid, Tripodi, Macdonald et al.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Just the headline cheers me up Labor isn't much better. Now if the headline was something like Greens might win or get enough to hold the BoP, then maybe...
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Apparently Widodo denies ever telling Abbott over the phone that he was considering changing his position on the death penalty. quote:President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo has contradicted Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s claim that the President gave him an indication that he might soften his stance on the planned executions of 11 prisoners, including two Australian drug smugglers.
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why does he even loving lie
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Hello thread. It's a shame all this build up to the NSW election is just going to lead to a retained Lib government. There is literally no way Brandis et al would ever face any real consequences. Official shaming is probably the best we will get and I wouldn't underestimate its sting. They were so upset over one of their mouth pieces being a convicted racist they tried to change the constitution.
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Ragingsheep posted:Labor isn't much better. Now if the headline was something like Greens might win or get enough to hold the BoP, then maybe... I hold out hope that the Upper House will have a less poo poo makeup.
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katlington posted:Sounds like the same trick he played with Bishop before the first spill except Widodo isn't beholden to Abbott so he called his bluff.
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Seagull posted:why does he even loving lie Why does a dog bark?
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Trapezium Dave posted:I'm not sure with Abbott if he's wilfully lying (because even Abbott wouldn't be dim enough to try that with the Indonesian president). It could be that when people are diplomatically polite with him he interprets that what he wants to hear rather than paying attention to what they are actually saying. Could be, though is it more or less dumb than threatening humanitarian aid, do you think? 😜
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katlington posted:There is literally no way Brandis et al would ever face any real consequences. Official shaming is probably the best we will get and I wouldn't underestimate its sting. They were so upset over one of their mouth pieces being a convicted racist they tried to change the constitution. Fair enough. can they censure Abbott next for constantly misrepresenting the report and Triggs?
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Fair enough. can they censure Abbott next for constantly misrepresenting the report and Triggs? Abbott opening his mouth isn't self-censuring enough? But seriously if all this censuring amounts to is a piece of paper to the effect of "We the Senate think George Brandis stinks" then
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Fair enough. can they censure Abbott next for constantly misrepresenting the report and Triggs? Can the Senate actually censure a member from the lower house?
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Gough Suppressant posted:Why does a dog bark? Fear or bravad oh.
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katlington posted:Could be, though is it more or less dumb than threatening humanitarian aid, do you think? 😜
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NTRabbit posted:Can the Senate actually censure a member from the lower house? Yeah, it's been done. Happened to Howard, amongst others.
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NTRabbit posted:Can the Senate actually censure a member from the lower house? Just having a skim of http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Senate/Powers_practice_n_procedures/odgers13?file=chapter19§ion=05 - it looks like the Senate can censure ministers but not members with no portfolio, and they've censured Prime Ministers before. e: It also reads like the senate can impose penalties on ministers if they really aren't playing ball wrt producing documents etc. but I only pretend to be a constitutional lawyer on the internet.
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SeekOtherCandidate posted:
Waste.
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Trapezium Dave posted:Not even a federal Lib politician is naive enough to actively want to cycle through three PMs in their first term. Its not like they want it, more that they're sleepwalking into it from cowardice and incompetence. They have to get rid of Abbott and Hockey, and their best option if not Turnbull and Bishop, is Bishop and Morrison. That's not a stable combination. Unless you have a cunning plan, we'd all like to hear it? A more general explanation of motions covers the various possible censures and notes when that has happened here ewe2 fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Splode posted:Mate you came back and just posted first dog. Go back to where you came from.
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Even if the Senate did pass a censure motion against Abbott, what would it accomplish? Could it be used as reasoning for a leadership spill, or a vote of no confidence? Considering how useless he already is and how little LNP voters and supporters within the party seem to care, I would have thought any censure against him would just be brushed off as LABOR WASTE of senate time. Kind of sucks that all a censure motion means is 'we the Senate think this person sucks', I doubt it will influence people who don't already know that Brandis is a literal human turd. e: why is First Dog considered worth posting and, more importantly, who the hell is still paying for these textwalls with minimal illustration to be made
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any takers?
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Lizard Combatant posted:any takers?
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Lizard Combatant posted:any takers? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4-sHXbWY6o PEEKABOO I CAN SEE YOU AND I KNOW WHAT YOU DO edit: trigger warning, clowns. ewe2 fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Ten Becquerels posted:e: why is First Dog considered worth posting and, more importantly, who the hell is still paying for these textwalls with minimal illustration to be made That bastion of , The Guardian
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Lizard Combatant posted:any takers? I would have 15 min ago but for obvious reasons won't now.
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The lib/nats will probably stay in power in NSW, but it seems unlikely they will increase their standing in the upper house. What chance is there that the TAFE legislation will be blocked?
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Lizard Combatant posted:any takers? *you received a new iMessage* --- "Sit on it, fatso"
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