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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Here comes the laughs He should watch like any comedy show from the last 30 years including SNL, he'll find plenty of stuff making fun of trans people. edit: Hey guys I'd really like a morally grey show about an rear end in a top hat male protagonist who does bad things, too bad SNL didn't do that in their February 28th, 2015 episode because I don't think I can find that anywhere else. Tender Bender fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Is it a strawman if we want them but it isn't exactly a "sacred cow"? I probably want transgender bathrooms the same way Ben Carson wants Glenn Beck back on TV. Sure it'd be nice but I'm not exactly going to the mat for it.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:28
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Is it a strawman if we want them but it isn't exactly a "sacred cow"? Speaking of Ben Carson: http://crooksandliars.com/2015/03/ben-carson-religion-needed-test-scientific quote:Possible Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson suggested over the weekend that religion was necessary for testing scientific theories because the science could be "propaganda."
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Mar 2, 2015 19:32
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:If these private practices were still using paper charts I could see how ACA might effect them and how a co-opt would work for them. This is the major factor, as I understand it.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:34
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Ben Carson is not a scientist. He is just a doctor. I would really love to see what thenscoentificncokmmuity actually thinks of him.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:48
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quote:"But I do not believe that religious beliefs should dictate one's public policies and stances." The foundations of our rational understanding of everything, however, are very much up for review via holy texts and what you've chosen to believe by way of reading them.
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Job Truniht posted:Ben Carson is not a scientist. He is just a doctor. I would really love to see what thenscoentificncokmmuity actually thinks of him. The Right likes to tout out his credentials whenever they spout pseudoscience, that is kind of the issue at hand. Especially in pushing Creationism legislation and arguing against scientific evidence. Intel&Sebastian posted:The foundations of our rational understanding of everything, however, are very much up for review via holy texts and what you've chosen to believe by way of reading them. Its particularly condemning when he said that bit because he is lying having been caught in the past arguing in favor of creationism and other theological oriented woo.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:56
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Is it a strawman if we want them but it isn't exactly a "sacred cow"? i thought itwas a common thing that bathrooms are effectively transgender if they only hold one occupant at a time some places i go don't even bother gendering their bathrooms it's just "piss/poo poo in here" i took a suburban friend out to a bar and she was terribly, terribly confused and had a difficult time because she refused to use an ungendered bathroom out of fear that she would be in the wrong one lmbo
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i thought itwas a common thing that bathrooms are effectively transgender if they only hold one occupant at a time Tbh, given the proportions involved here, that's usually the rational solution. Most trans people will be perfectly happy using whichever bathroom best fits their anatomical needs and/or personal preference, and for everyone else, there's a single-occupant restroom.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:06
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One random doctor's opinion and credentials are acceptable to inform the whole of Conservatism. The same way that one random Presbyterian churches pastor's acceptance of gays can also inform....no? Oh well, then I guess they're just dicks.
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Quorum posted:Tbh, given the proportions involved here, that's usually the rational solution. Most trans people will be perfectly happy using whichever bathroom best fits their anatomical needs and/or personal preference, and for everyone else, there's a single-occupant restroom. Yeah, I would figure that the best solution would be for society to get over the "oh ick" factor of things and just let people poo poo in the bathroom of the gender they identify with. Any other related/unrelated issues that come from that (men pretending so they can be weird perverts or whatever) can be handled as separate cases.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:25
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"I'm very very concerned that any sort of bathroom mixing will result in peversion and gayness" - Party that defended Larry Craig
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quote:On Saturday morning, right-wing radio host and self-described "total partisan hack" Dana Loesch participated in a CPAC panel on religious liberty, along with the Family Research Council's Tony Perkins and Rep. Randy Neugebauer. During the discussion, Loesch said that if America doesn’t protect the supposed "right" of Christians to discriminate against gays in public accommodations, it will eventually lead to gays being stoned to death in the streets. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/loesch-failure-protect-religious-liberty-could-lead-gays-being-stoned-streets If you don't defend our right to be religious bigots, we MIGHT just stone you in the street. Is that a threat, or a warning, or a irrational fear?
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quote:"A person's religious beliefs are the things that make them who they are, gives them a direction in their life," Carson opined. "But I do not believe that religious beliefs should dictate one's public policies and stances." Yeeeah, except that this is pretty much what every Republican politician does.
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I caught a rerun of Wilcow at CPAC yesterday, he was talking to a guy from CATO and they were both freaking out and one of them literally said "people will start seeking the best medical care possible now that someone else is paying for it!" The nerve of poor people, demanding that they receive a high standard of medical care! Next thing you know they'll be demanding they get served steak and lobster from the hospital cafeteria! Where will this slippery slope to the big government nanny state end?!mr. mephistopheles posted:I once had a conversation with a far right coworker where I got him to acknowledge that a UHC system would be cheaper for everyone and we could still have privatized care for people who had the money and wanted to pay for it. He eventually said he didn't want that because he didn't like the idea of the government using his money to help people (with the implication that it would help people he didn't like, like lazy minorities). He was also an extremely devout Mormon. Compassion! It's only compassion if you're allowed to flaunt your money and demand that people lick your boots before you help them out. Government is usurping the role of this vital societal function.
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beatlegs posted:Yeeeah, except that this is pretty much what every Republican politician does. Including Carson, ironically.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:41
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The Right's dislike for UHC can be distilled down to their intense pleasure in seeing people they believe to be deserving of bad luck actually suffer/die from it. This is why the current system "works" for them, because those who can't afford or choose not to get insurance should die. That's what they deserve and that's what freedom is all about.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:42
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CommieGIR posted:Including Carson, ironically.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:45
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Carson isn't a politician. Hasn't stopped him from trying.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:48
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Team equality doesn't exist but we still have salary caps and whatnot in pro sports. I'm glad you brought this up because I use it all the time when I'm trying to draw analogies and arguing against free market conservatives. The NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL all have some form(s) of unions, salary caps, revenue sharing and collective bargaining and none of them seem to collapsing under the weight of all of this so-called "socialism". In fact, they all seem to thrive and prosper, even during recessions. Boxing would be the closest thing to the Libertarian approach and simply letting the free market decide what happens and look how well that's worked out. The NFL model is the closest thing to Socialism in the United States that I can think of (revenue sharing, public financing, unions, collective bargaining, etc., etc.) and they're growing by leaps and bounds. How do conservative free-market types not see this, especially knowing how much they all jack off to football?
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BiggerBoat posted:Boxing would be the closest thing to the Libertarian approach and simply letting the free market decide what happens and look how well that's worked out. On the verge of the single biggest payday the sport has ever seen?  I kid though, MW/Pac may be the last of the true titanic boxing matches the sport ever puts up and the sport is most def in some trouble.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:03
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bpower posted:Sneering at the powerless; the foundation of good comedy. I'll never pass up an opportunity to post this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_mQPvKXw3U
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a counterpoint to that would be the English Premier League and football outside of North America generally, which is about as capitalist as a sport can get while it remains the most popular sport in the world. although I can't imagine that your conservatives would appreciate bring linked to an evil euro sport
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Soviet Commubot posted:I'll never pass up an opportunity to post this. I think this should be in the Schadenfreude thread, or maybe the AUG one, because this is just painfully unfunny. 
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Mar 2, 2015 21:24
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I love when Fox News promotes some "Look what those clowns in Washington paid your tax dollars to do now!" story. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/02/feds-spend-12500-translating-spanish-novel-on-heterosexual-privilege/?intcmp=latestnews quote:Feds spend $12,500 translating Spanish novel on ‘Heterosexual Privilege’ Honestly that sounds pretty interesting. I hope it was translated well.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:31
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I feel kind of sorry for people that think that art should always be inoffensive to them. How boring they must be.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I feel kind of sorry for people that think that art should always be inoffensive to them. How boring they must be.
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William Bear posted:I love when Fox News promotes some "Look what those clowns in Washington paid your tax dollars to do now!" story. $12,500 dollars you say? Why that could pay for...um...
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Thump! posted:I think this should be in the Schadenfreude thread, or maybe the AUG one, because this is just painfully unfunny. Is the Right Network still a thing? When it first came out every program/commercial they had was as interesting and engaging on conservative policies as... well, conservatives. They had a trailer for something that consisted of white people sitting on a sofa talking about how small government was the tits and I'm pretty sure they expected people to laugh.
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BiggerBoat posted:$12,500 dollars you say? Why that could pay for...um... I can read German but translating it takes a lot more time. Not only do I have to read it, but I have to put every sentence into grammatical English and, if it's a literary work, preserve the author's style. Hell, imagine there's some wordplay that turns on words that sound similar in the original language, but the English words are very different. How do you try and capture that? Translation is hard loving work and $12,500 for a novel is probably a bargain, and while I don't think it'll be a huge seller for a publishing house, there's a decent chance it makes some publisher some money especially since they didn't have to pay for the translation. Your government: building the economy with NEA grants.
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm glad you brought this up because I use it all the time when I'm trying to draw analogies and arguing against free market conservatives. The NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL all have some form(s) of unions, salary caps, revenue sharing and collective bargaining and none of them seem to collapsing under the weight of all of this so-called "socialism". In fact, they all seem to thrive and prosper, even during recessions. Plenty of those people are opposed to salary caps and player rights. Conservatives were firmly on the side of the NCAA when it came to milking players for money but barring them from personally profiting.
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Soviet Commubot posted:I'll never pass up an opportunity to post this. "My dental plan is to chew on the side of my mouth that doesn't cause me excruciating pain" *uproarious laughter* conservativecomedy.txt UV_Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Plenty of those people are opposed to salary caps and player rights. Conservatives were firmly on the side of the NCAA when it came to milking players for money but barring them from personally profiting. "Those greedy players should just be thankful they're getting anything at all for playing a kids game! It's the owners who worked hard to get where they are and good for them for being successful." - a libertarian I know.
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Logikv9 posted:Is the Right Network still a thing? When it first came out every program/commercial they had was as interesting and engaging on conservative policies as... well, conservatives. Just checked the wiki article on them, and lol. Wikipedia posted:The network announced on Aug. 16th 2010 that it would launch nationwide on Sept. 8th 2010. The network ceased operations less than one year later.
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Thump! posted:Just checked the wiki article on them, and lol. 
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Mister Macys posted:I agree with what you said except this; call me cynical, but the rich would just hire people to do poo poo for them, whether repairs, housework, or even a PA for groceries. Hey, you can end up with a broken arm if you fall in the shower on your yacht in Nice or in your 1 bedroom basement apartment.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Here comes the laughs It's Pat! There was even a movie.
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On CNN, Erin Burnett just used an image of Tamir Rice flashing "gang signs" in her story about Rice being blamed by the city of Cleveland for his own death. Innocent child or thug-in-training? You be the judge.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:On CNN, Erin Burnett just used an image of Tamir Rice flashing "gang signs" in her story about Rice being blamed by the city of Cleveland for his own death. Innocent child or thug-in-training? You be the judge. CNN delenda est. 
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