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I think a thing to remember is that early on in the apocalypse, the larger the group, the more likely they all will die due to most people not knowing how to handle them, or not knowing that everyone turns, or general idiotstuff. Funneling a large swath of the population in a direction could actually backfire and result in that just becoming a zombification highway. Also, the government has lost control. A lot of agencies are working independent of each other. Perhaps one group told people to evac, obviously some armed forces didn't agree and told Deanna and her group to detour over to alexandria. It's dystopia, no one really knows what the "right" thing to do is.
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I often wonder how Hawaii is fairing during these trying times.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:21
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lifts cats over head posted:I often wonder how Hawaii is fairing during these trying times. Islands would offer a degree of safety higher than the mainland from the herd effect but still, if its a global catastrophe eveyone who dies of natural causes will still rise again and infect others. Hawaii is probably overrun.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:28
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I bet small, low population islands are doing pretty ok. If there's only like, a hundred people on the whole island, it's not like a bunch of them are going to die at once, so there's not much chance of getting overrun.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:05
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boom boom boom posted:I bet small, low population islands are doing pretty ok. If there's only like, a hundred people on the whole island, it's not like a bunch of them are going to die at once, so there's not much chance of getting overrun. I think it depends. You also run into the problem of smaller communities being ill informed of how to properly dispose of the bodies. Depending on how how many people one zombie can bite before they figure that out and make the headstabbing normalized it could get out of control before they can get a handle on it.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:09
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Hawaii can't survive without shipments of $10 frozen bread and cans of spam
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Mar 2, 2015 22:10
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GrAviTy84 posted:I think it depends. You also run into the problem of smaller communities being ill informed of how to properly dispose of the bodies. Depending on how how many people one zombie can bite before they figure that out and make the headstabbing normalized it could get out of control before they can get a handle on it. They wouldn't have to do a headstabbing, they could just restrain the deceased like Hershel tried. If the zombie managed to bite someone they could probably figure out what's going way quicker. A close-knit community would figure out guy dies->bites someone->that guy dies->that guy tries to bit people pattern really quickly. Probably more quickly than a large city, because everybody knows what's going on, they don't have to piece the story together from multiple hospitals, police reports, etc.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:25
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boom boom boom posted:They wouldn't have to do a headstabbing, they could just restrain the deceased like Hershel tried. If the zombie managed to bite someone they could probably figure out what's going way quicker. A close-knit community would figure out guy dies->bites someone->that guy dies->that guy tries to bit people pattern really quickly. Probably more quickly than a large city, because everybody knows what's going on, they don't have to piece the story together from multiple hospitals, police reports, etc. I mean, we know all this, but the general populations of west africa still don't realize you can get ebola from getting in contact with sweat and other bodily fluids. The majority of the problem there is that these small communities just have no idea how to handle infected peoples.
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I wonder why we never saw them raid warehouses (like those used as Walmart/supermarket or Amazon distribution centers) for stuff like water and food. Probably because they tend to be in industrial and heavily populated areas... I thought it was interesting how they portrayed the group as being unusually stable (relatively speaking, of course), and somewhat unwilling at first to be separate from each other. Almost like a military family of sorts. I also am not sure how that particular camp managed to survive for so long with such a weak defense, unless there is something horrible going on that nobody has spoken of yet. The quiet girl kinda acts like an abuse victim. And while I hate to admit it, it does appear to be the one case where socialism might actually work; then again, in a post-zombie world, there probably aren't a whole lot of government styles that would work in any form. I hope Carol ends up finding a husband and she becomes the abuser. GrAviTy84 posted:I mean, we know all this, but the general populations of west africa still don't realize you can get ebola from getting in contact with sweat and other bodily fluids. The majority of the problem there is that these small communities just have no idea how to handle infected peoples. I find it racist for you to suggest that people of African descent are too ignorant to properly handle contagions. It wasn't just Africans that were responsible for the spread of HIV to just about every nation and race. And besides, even though HIV is 100% fatal, it's not as bad as ebola. VVVVV - You just answered your own question. Jakcson fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 2, 2015 22:32
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We still haven't figured out how the Mormon telepathically fixed the music box.
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Jakcson posted:I find it racist for you to suggest that people of African descent are too ignorant to properly handle contagions. It doesn't have anything to do with them being african and everything to do with them still believing in witch doctors. I mentioned ebola because it has a similar R0 to what I would think the zombie contagion would be. People would have to be going around loving dead bodies and doing dead body blood transfusions in order for it to behave like HIV. GrAviTy84 fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 2, 2015 22:43
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moist turtleneck posted:Where in the hell would you evacuate all of NoVa? I feel like Rick should have questioned that more. Maybe into DC itself? Like they did with Atlanta? There is the river separating DC from Virginia. Approximately 500,000 enter DC every workday today as it is. It wouldn't be hugely inconceivable to have more than that, although I'm sure the city would be in utter chaos. And can you imagine the delays on the Blue/Orange/Silver lines? Sheesh. Really, it's probably just more of a matter of suspension of disbelief.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:45
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Jakcson posted:I wonder why we never saw them raid warehouses (like those used as Walmart/supermarket or Amazon distribution centers) for stuff like water and food. Probably because they tend to be in industrial and heavily populated areas... This is not a racist comment at all. This is actually well discussed and documented during the most recent ebola outbreak. I cannot remember the specifics but many of the tribes have close contact with the dead as part of their funeral rituals. There are huge campaigns to educate them on the hazards of doing this. One NPR story I heard was talking from their perspective how a bunch of foreign white people come in in lab coats and try to tell them what they're doing is wrong despite doing it for centuries. There's a rejection of the notion and fear that their beliefs will ruin whatever afterlife is for the deceased.
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TraderStav posted:This is not a racist comment at all. I find it hard to believe that people of African descent could be as ignorant and poorly educated as you claim they are. On TV, I've seen all kinds of black people performing advanced and highly skilled jobs.
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Jakcson posted:I find it hard to believe that people of African descent could be as ignorant and poorly educated as you claim they are.
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Mar 2, 2015 23:02
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JazzFlight posted:On the other hand, Tyreese. On the other hand, Michonne.
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Mar 2, 2015 23:05
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Anyone got a gif of Glenn knocking that guy on his stupid rear end?
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Mar 2, 2015 23:08
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VendaGoat posted:Anyone got a gif of Glenn knocking that guy on his stupid rear end? 
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lifts cats over head posted:I often wonder how Hawaii is fairing during these trying times. Madagascar is a thriving superpower these days. E: I would like Glen way more if he hadn't bought into the "never showing any emotion whatsoever is good acting" paradigm that is so popular amongst the TWD cast. He was once a fun character.
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lifts cats over head posted:I often wonder how Hawaii is fairing during these trying times.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OMQpiVuSp8&t=50s
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steinrokkan posted:E: I would like Glen way more if he hadn't bought into the "never showing any emotion whatsoever is good acting" paradigm that is so popular amongst the TWD cast. He was once a fun character. I think his  was more to contrast that dude was losing his temper and Glenn was still in control of his emotions.
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So, I havn't read the comics up to this point and this is basically speculation but it might contain some vague spoilers. The three people that were exiled from Alexandria, they're going to be coming back, right? I imagine that Rick and co. were brought in because a force of people have threatened to take the town and they wanted an army of their own for defense. I'm also guessing that Nagan is one of those three, knowing only that he is a name associated with this section of the plot. I can see Rick and co. starting a coup, using up bullets, wrecking walls, etc. only to have a 'You fools' moment when they realize they needed everyone to survive what is coming. It could also be none of this.
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GrAviTy84 posted:I think his I think steinrokkan was just trying to say that Glenn would a more fun character if he acted more like a clown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Cnw_3UmeU Viginti posted:So, I havn't read the comics up to this point and this is basically speculation but it might contain some vague spoilers. I hope it doesn't end up like that zombie show produced by The Asylum where the exiled people were actually a part of some kooky religious sect, and then everyone in the perfect city end up becoming infected, and... (I can't be the only one here that actually liked that show.) Jakcson fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Jakcson posted:I think steinrokkan was just trying to say that Glenn would a more fun character if he acted more like a clown. Glenn has turned into just another jaded rear end in a top hat over the course of the last year or so (approx. since he got that stupid zombie flu). He doesn't resemble the character he used to be, and he is now a completely disposable line delivery system Mk. 2000. Wanting characters to display character traits isn't unreasonable.
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Glenn and Maggie have had, legitimately, nothing to do in years. I don't know if Scott Gimple doesn't like them, if he prefers his new characters or what but given that they were once upon a time leads it is a little strange. I feel like most of the Daryl/Carol material would have been there's under Darabont or one of the other runners.
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I want ROTC kid to be like Crassus' kid in Spartacus. Hope bad poo poo happens to him but also becomes kinda in the end
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Mar 3, 2015 00:45
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Thank you. That is soooo satisfying.
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Mar 3, 2015 00:47
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Glen and Maggie got separated and reunited on the way to terminus.
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Mar 3, 2015 00:51
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VendaGoat posted:Thank you. That is soooo satisfying. You mean the obvious fake punch? :p
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LinkesAuge posted:You mean the obvious fake punch? :p Yeah, it didn't connect with Glenn at all. It was super obvious. (Don't most people have their fists bounce back after punching someone, instead of following all the way through?)
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Jakcson posted:(Don't most people have their fists bounce back after punching someone, instead of following all the way through?) no
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I'm not going to complain how a punch looks on TV as long as the person getting punched is an rear end.
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Hexel posted:Im gonna need a better explanation on how Captain Janeway and her son have held that plush community for 2 years or so.
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Nothing to see here I'm just a dainty old lady  Also, a boy and his opossum: http://i.imgur.com/jiJJ6cJ.gif moist turtleneck fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Jakcson posted:Yeah, it didn't connect with Glenn at all. Glenn's fighting style is an obscure martial art from his ancestral homeland of Korea.
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moist turtleneck posted:Nothing to see here I'm just a dainty old lady Oh no! They let a stone cold killer come into Alexandria!  VVVVV - It was explained that Enid was having sex with the zombies. Duh. Jakcson fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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So one thing confused me, what was Enid doing? At first i figured she was going out to kill zombies to keep her edge, but she just up and vanished.
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moist turtleneck posted:Nothing to see here I'm just a dainty old lady Was I the only one that thought that was a bit too much? Yeah, these people are naive as to how it is out there, but they ain't loving stupid. Everyone in Rick's crew is a certified hardass just by looking at them, there is no way little debbie homemaker would last outside the walls, even in a group like Rick's. Carol playing up the innocent ole me routine just looks suspicious as hell and makes Rick's group look like they're up to something and could get them caught up with the alexandrians.
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ruddiger posted:Was I the only one that thought that was a bit too much? Yeah, these people are naive as to how it is out there, but they ain't loving stupid. Everyone in Rick's crew is a certified hardass just by looking at them, there is no way little debbie homemaker would last outside the walls, even in a group like Rick's. Carol playing up the innocent ole me routine just looks suspicious as hell and makes Rick's group look like they're up to something and could get them caught up with the alexandrians. Cough. *Eugene* Cough. And to a lesser extent Noah. twistedmentat posted:So one thing confused me, what was Enid doing? At first i figured she was going out to kill zombies to keep her edge, but she just up and vanished. I'm pretty sure this is one of those things that will be answered in a later episode. Seems like the current theory are that she is a spy.
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ruddiger posted:Was I the only one that thought that was a bit too much? Yeah, these people are naive as to how it is out there, but they ain't loving stupid. Everyone in Rick's crew is a certified hardass just by looking at them, there is no way little debbie homemaker would last outside the walls, even in a group like Rick's. Carol playing up the innocent ole me routine just looks suspicious as hell and makes Rick's group look like they're up to something and could get them caught up with the alexandrians. You might be giving the Alexandrians too much credit. In every part of the world there are people that exist, but shouldn't because they and their ancestors are/were dumber than a bag of hammers. And yet they are still breathing. Somehow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScgFIKXKFkc
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