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Angry Grimace posted:I was told by others that its because White is not allowed to remove Planeswalkers. Despite the fact that Banishing Light totally lets you do that. to the color pie guru baker mr rosewater banishing light is a starkly different kind of effect from utter end I mean obviously to some extent the effects are different but it's kind of weird to assume that they aren't effectively the same a majority of the time, like, nobody ever treated o-ring as like, not a vindicate. Even if O-ring is conceptually not permanent while utter end is, in terms of actual resource exchange it's pretty much the same. Of course to maro thats a development thing and not a design thing I guess. Zoness fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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From the last thread:One Deadman posted:The way Exploit is worded is kinda weird to me? Also, Strionic Resonator is a thing they have to keep into account in eternal formats. Remember when Duplicant could have two P/T scores?
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Mar 3, 2015 08:18
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Zemyla posted:From the last thread: Wizards doesn't test with eternal formats in mind.
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Mar 3, 2015 08:19
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I'm not sure if this is the right thread for a question like this, so if it isn't, please forgive me. A friend I play Magic with and I decided to do a pauper style deck building with the exceptions being two non duplicate uncommons and two duplicate rares. Just something to spice up our usual duels I guess. Anyway, I built a nice Boros + bloodrush deck that I think will do well, I played it a few times versus another friend and it drew pretty well and did what I expected it would. Not as many Batallion procs as I would've liked but it's okay, bloodrush proved to be pretty effective. The "format" is basically no more than two non duplicate rares and two non duplicate uncommons, with only basic lands. I've got a ton of commons from many different sets, I'm just having trouble picking a concept for a cool deck built around such a format. I'd love any suggestions or really any input on this. I'm trying to stay away from both red and white because of my Boros deck, but Orzhov does sound interesting. I'd appreciate any input on this, and I know it looks like it but I'm not asking for a card by card list of a deck to build. Just if there was like, a cool ability from a certain series or something that might be fun to play, maybe point me in that direction  About to go delve through my library again, we'll see what happens. In any event, a dumb format like this definitely puts a new spin on the deckbuilding I'm familiar with so it's kinda fun.
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Mar 3, 2015 08:21
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TheKingofSprings posted:Wizards doesn't test with eternal formats in mind. No, but they do make sure the game rules don't literally snap in half when new cards are released. I'm pretty sure Strionic Resonator is one of the cards they test cards on just to avoid any future Duplicants.
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Mar 3, 2015 08:28
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Santheb posted:I'm not sure if this is the right thread for a question like this, so if it isn't, please forgive me. You can play Storm with ANT which seems kind of insane.
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Mar 3, 2015 08:34
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rabidsquid posted:You can play Storm with ANT which seems kind of insane. I don't have either of those cards on hand unfortunately and my phone auto corrected me into posting that we can have two duplicate rares. What I meant was two non duplicate rares :/ For what it's worth, I wasn't trying to dump money into this unless it really completes a deck. It seems like it's going against the spirit of the whole thing if I do. If the rare is like two dollars though...I don't think anybody would be none the wiser though
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Mar 3, 2015 08:43
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Santheb posted:I don't have either of those cards on hand unfortunately and my phone auto corrected me into posting that we can have two duplicate rares. What I meant was two non duplicate rates :/ Ad Nauseam and Tendrils of Agony are both singletons. Deck would be a little more sketchy without the tutors in Pauper but it runs a good amount of cantrips.
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Mar 3, 2015 08:48
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Goblin Sharpshooter +Basilisk Collar
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Mar 3, 2015 08:52
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edit: nevermind, Google is a powerful tool
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Mar 3, 2015 09:03
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STiL. posted:My absolute favourite thing about spoiler season is everyone going absolute batshit about new cards, presumably so that when Standard Playable Chase Rare is playable they can look at their posts and pat themselves on the back for being how right they were. This is incorrect since this thread has proven time and again it cannot properly gauge card merit.
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Mar 3, 2015 09:21
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MiddleEastBeast posted:edit: nevermind, Google is a powerful tool I understand this, but please don't deny me input. I swear, I'm a sponge, I just need a little input
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Mar 3, 2015 09:27
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Haha I looked at that card, glossed over it thinking it cost 7, and then realized it cost 5! Even if it's not (constructed) playable they are definitely pushing how fast dragons hit the board, I guess.
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Mar 3, 2015 09:31
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This counts creatures, right?
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Mar 3, 2015 09:36
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mr. mephistopheles posted:This counts creatures, right? Yes.
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Mar 3, 2015 09:38
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Holy poo poo that thing is funny. Strike-proof in the best way. I'm also sad Silumgar lost Hexproof. 
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Mar 3, 2015 09:53
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 Translation from MTGSalvation: (Silumgar's Assasin) 1B Creature - Human Assassin Rare Creatures with power greater than ～'s power can't block it. Megamorph 2B When ～ is turned face up, destroy target creature with power 3 or less an opponent controls. 2/1
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Mar 3, 2015 10:20
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Look like it's a rare cycle (of 2/1s for 2?), then.
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Mar 3, 2015 10:26
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Did Taurean Mauler ever see play for reasons outside of being a Changeling? Minority Deport posted:
So, if there is a cycle of these guys, are we looking at Multi-color Green decks feat. Whisperwood and Mastery of the Unseen being more of a thing?
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Mar 3, 2015 13:48
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AlternateNu posted:So, if there is a cycle of these guys, are we looking at Multi-color Green decks feat. Whisperwood and Mastery of the Unseen being more of a thing? Not without a lot of support for them, this guy is still pretty costly to kill a creature if the whole Whisperwood thing doesn't work out. The reason that card sees play is because it's just value out the wazoo.
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Mar 3, 2015 13:52
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STiL. posted:Is anyone else... unexcited about the flavour of this set? Not necessarily about Neckbeard the Dragonspeaker searching for his waifu that he met the one time, but about the set as a whole. Since the conclusion of the story-arc concerning Ugin already happened, what story is there left to tell? Just in time for the switch to two set blocks!
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Mar 3, 2015 14:33
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Minority Deport posted:
I really like this card; I wonder if the red one is a one-drop.
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Mar 3, 2015 14:51
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How rare are Mythic Rares? I decided to return to the game and bought the Red/White FRF theme deck with 5 boosters. I pulled 3 Mythics including Ugin.
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Mar 3, 2015 15:02
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Mayostard posted:How rare are Mythic Rares? I decided to return to the game and bought the Red/White FRF theme deck with 5 boosters. I pulled 3 Mythics including Ugin. One pack in eight has a mythic instead of rare. Individual rare is twice as common as an individual mythic. (Edit: Longer explanation to the latter point: rares and mythics are printed as a sheet of 121 cards where the individual cards are cut from. For a big set like Khans of Tarkir, the sheet has two runs of the 53 rares, plus one run of the 15 mythics, for the total of 121 cards and a ratio of 2:1 of each rare to mythic.) Lunsku fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Mar 3, 2015 15:08
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Lunsku posted:One pack in eight has a mythic instead of rare. I see, so it's not like the old games of the early 2000's where the top rarity level is roughly one or two in a box.
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Mar 3, 2015 15:13
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AlternateNu posted:Did Taurean Mauler ever see play for reasons outside of being a Changeling? Taurean Mauler saw some play in aggressive red decks. I don't think this dragon will because it's a 5 drop that doesn't do anything immediately and doesn't protect itself, but it's a really cool card and absurd in limited.
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Mar 3, 2015 15:25
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Mayostard posted:I see, so it's not like the old games of the early 2000's where the top rarity level is roughly one or two in a box. Yeah but not everything at Mythic is super great. It's mostly just the Planeswalkers and maybe 1 or 2 others.
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Mar 3, 2015 15:33
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And then you get the stuff nobody expects to be good but turns out is, like Kiora and Keranos.
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Mar 3, 2015 16:05
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I like both of those new cards.
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Mar 3, 2015 16:08
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Count Bleck posted:And then you get the stuff nobody expects to be good but turns out is, like Kiora and Keranos. I honestly thought Kiora had a lot of fantastic potential to begin with, a lot of people did. Keranos though, I don't think anyone could have predicted him showing up in multiple eternal formats.
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Pretty rare. Last I heard about one in every eight boosters. Sometimes you just get lucky. I pulled two pack jaces from worldwake playing the jace lottery. Edit: darn it, why do I respond to threads that I open and then don't look at for a few minutes before refreshing? CountFosco fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Mar 3, 2015 16:10
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Ramos posted:I honestly thought Kiora had a lot of fantastic potential to begin with. Keranos though, I don't think anyone could have predicted him showing up in multiple eternal formats. I dabbled with her for a long time, and I really enjoy what she brings to the table. I did have a situation where my opponent of Abzan Midrange had a Rhino and a Caryatid out, and I had Kiora and a Knuckleblade with countermagic backup for removal, and every time I would just swing with Knux, he wouldn't block because then I pump it and kill his Rhino, and then second main plus Kiora and his Rhino couldn't do dick until my turn in which I did it again. Her main problem is that doesn't work nearly as well against multiple threats. I love playing her but she's kind of a situational walker. Still better than Ral Zarek, unfortunately.
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Count Bleck posted:And then you get the stuff nobody expects to be good but turns out is, like Kiora and Keranos. Speaking as someone who's more pessimistic than most about new cards, I thought Kiora was a fine card. Keranos, no, I did not think he was eternal playable.
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Count Bleck posted:Still better than Ral Zarek, unfortunately. And also illustrates the reason he was pretty iffy in standard - not exactly a lot of karoos, basalt monoliths or worn powerstones hanging around for him to untap there. You really need that untap ability to be more useful to get full value out of the card. But Keranos, yeah, I was totally shocked (might even say bolted) at his playability. He just looks like a total do-nothing. It's nice to be wrong about some of the Gods, though. They ended up going to weird places. Karametra saw more play than Mogis, for example.
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Mar 3, 2015 16:24
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I knew when Keranos came out he was good, but I thought he would be great in Standard. I opened one and bought out my store's set at 5 bucks at the end of June, then used them to splash red in my Mono U Devotion deck. I ended up running Purph as well for triple God action. I loved that deck.
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Mar 3, 2015 16:25
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I'm not that surprised at Keranos being playable- he seems comparable to staff of nin, only harder to remove. You're getting roughly 1.5 damage and 0.5 cards per turn instead of 1 and 1, but still.
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Mar 3, 2015 16:31
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I don't think many people would've been that surprised if Keranos was Standard playable, but playable in older formats kind of blindsided a lot of us.
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Mar 3, 2015 16:33
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Keranos so good. Played against twin at SCG Baltimore, he blood mooned me then slammed a keranos, I just watched him slowly kill me for many turns while I top decked garbage. Oh well, if you can't beat them, join them. I'm in on the Twin train now.
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Incredibly useless looking "Mythic"  NEW COMMAND CYCLE 
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