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Venom Snake posted:I'm not offended? It's just that your a good poster and it sucks to see you run down the path of "leftism white washes bad people" when the same could be said of literally every ideology ever. I wasn't saying "leftism white-washes bad people". What I was saying is that leftists tend to distance themselves from bad leftists of the past so it doesn't have to deal with how they reflect on their ideology, in the context of someone saying Stalin wasn't an example of communism or socialism. So yeah, I wasn't talking about every ideology in the universe, because every ideology in the universe wasn't the context of the discussion. I am sure there is also a tendency to whitewash (say with Trotsky, or with the anarchists in the Spanish Civil War), but that wasn't the issue at hand, either. Scruff McGruff posted:This may be one of the worst "articles" I have seen yet posted by this lady on my facebook. She has been slowly creeping towards full-blown Muslim bigotry and frequently posts those "OMG MOSQUES/TRAINING CAMPS IN MY AMERICA" articles but holy poo poo. She is also genuinely terrified of anyone wearing Muslim garb. If you are going to touch the poop, ask her if she'd support Christians removing their crucifixes or nuns their habits when entering court. Remind her that since we live in America, the 1st Amendment would protect our religious folks from undergoing this kind of humiliation by the gubmint. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:If you are going to touch the poop, ask her if she'd support Christians removing their crucifixes or nuns their habits when entering court. Remind her that since we live in America, the 1st Amendment would protect our religious folks from undergoing this kind of humiliation by the gubmint. Since that happened in Canada talking about the American constitution won't get you terribly far.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:51
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God, Quebec sucks.
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Who What Now posted:Since that happened in Canada talking about the American constitution won't get you terribly far. That was my point. 
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"I have the greatest affection for them [Negroes] but I know they're not going to make it for 500 years. They aren't. You know it, too. The Mexicans are a different cup of tea. They have a heritage. At the present time they steal, they're dishonest, but they do have some concept of family life. They don't live like a bunch of dogs, which the Negroes do live like."
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sweart gliwere posted:"I have the greatest affection for them [Negroes] but I know they're not going to make it for 500 years. They aren't. You know it, too. The Mexicans are a different cup of tea. They have a heritage. At the present time they steal, they're dishonest, but they do have some concept of family life. They don't live like a bunch of dogs, which the Negroes do live like." Nice Nixon quote there.
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Rick_Hunter posted:Or it could be just that no matter where Kal-el landed, he would have become an instrument of whatever ideology's will. I enjoyed Red Son, though the ending was weak. 
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Rick_Hunter posted:FWIW, the name of the painting is 'Altered Egos'. I can't find anything written about it from Jeff Huntington's perspective, but I could imagine it being about ideologies being fairly inseparable. Or it could be just that no matter where Kal-el landed, he would have become an instrument of whatever ideology's will.
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Duke Igthorn posted:If he had been around before the Revolutionary War he would have kept those traitorous colonies down. Put down that Tea, and let's see who you really are underneath your Indian disguise! Edit: It's mean old man Adams, your smuggling days are over!
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borkencode posted:
I've never understood the confused Picard meme. He doesn't look confused, he looks like he's belting a Broadway tune.
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AlliedBiscuit posted:I've never understood the confused Picard meme. He doesn't look confused, he looks like he's belting a Broadway tune. He looks like he's entreating the audience/whoever's on the viewscreen to not blow up a kitten orphanage. Meanwhile Whorf looks confused ("kittens are a subspecies of Tribble, right?") and Riker in the bottom corner looks like he's in a bathrobe.
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It is from 'Menage a Troi' I believe.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Put down that Tea, and let's see who you really are underneath your Indian disguise! Superbman, Saviour of the British Empire! The sun never sets on the Empire while the Son of Krypton watches over! 
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AlliedBiscuit posted:I've never understood the confused Picard meme. He doesn't look confused, he looks like he's belting a Broadway tune. Kinda, he's doing Shakespeare - meme bit is at about 1:00
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Ron Roenicke posted:Kinda, he's doing Shakespeare - meme bit is at about 1:00 I loved it when Picard would occasionally be very Patrick Stewart. 
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It's no coincidence the number of times they had the Holodeck gently caress up or send them back in time or something as an excuse to put Stewart in some period costume and let him go all classical (that and back lot sets)
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I'm sure this has been debated by countless nerds, but isn't Picard supposed to be French? He is obsessed with British things. How do you justify this Star Trek writers? HOW?
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England kicked the poo poo out of, occupied, and probably committed genocide on the French during/after WW3. He's "French" in name only. Nothing of value was lost  .
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VideoTapir posted:They're anarchists in the popular understanding of the term, not in the academic. Like the misuse of "theory." Even then, not really since modern libertarians are 100% supporters of authoritarianism as long as its privatized. Its pretty ludicrous to refer to them as anarchists. Wiggles Von Huggins posted:I'm sure this has been debated by countless nerds, but isn't Picard supposed to be French? He is obsessed with British things. How do you justify this Star Trek writers? HOW? I caught an interview with Stewert on the radio and he was saying that originally Picard was supposed to be French and he even read the character with a French accent until the show producers like haha no what a bad idea
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Maybe he is a Breton anglophile rebelling against his pro assimilation parents? Or maybe Patrick Stewart can just play one role: Patrick Stewart.
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Shbobdb posted:Maybe he is a Breton anglophile rebelling against his pro assimilation parents? Or maybe Patrick Stewart can just play one role: Patrick Stewart. To be fair it's a pretty great role.
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You could make the argument that with the advent of transporter technology national boundaries don't exactly mean all that much.
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Even then, not really since modern libertarians are 100% supporters of authoritarianism as long as its privatized. Its pretty ludicrous to refer to them as anarchists. A lot of them are 100% okay with Monarchy or Dictatorships as long as you assure them that the King actually owns the country.
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Picard is franco-european. Anglicized, except when he speaks frankly.
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quote:Even then, not really since modern libertarians are 100% supporters of authoritarianism as long as its privatized. Its pretty ludicrous to refer to them as anarchists. Most people like that are still stuck in the 14 year old mindset that nothing will fill the power void left by government.
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Wiggles Von Huggins posted:I'm sure this has been debated by countless nerds, but isn't Picard supposed to be French? He is obsessed with British things. How do you justify this Star Trek writers? HOW? He's of French ethnicity but that doesn't necessarily mean he has to sound it. After he's done being Captain Picard he actually retires to a vineyard in France. edit: Another fun fact; they also originally decided that Picard should have hair and had Patrick Stewart wear a wig. That apparently lasted a matter of minutes before everybody realized he just works bald. Later on in the series he actually did in fact play a minor character while wearing a wig. He's basically unrecognizable. ToxicSlurpee fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Even then, not really since modern libertarians are 100% supporters of authoritarianism as long as its privatized. Its pretty ludicrous to refer to them as anarchists. They don't think they are, even if that'd be the end result.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:He's of French ethnicity but that doesn't necessarily mean he has to sound it. After he's done being Captain Picard he actually retires to a vineyard in France. Guys, it's a lot easier than that. He's speaking French but he has his translator set to the default "RP" voice. He's just not very technical and couldn't figure out how to work his gadget. To everyone on the Enterprise, his voice is the equivalent of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuwDXukkI9U 
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If the crew uses universal translator implants to understand each other, then why does Troi have that hosed-up accent?
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Later on in the series he actually did in fact play a minor character while wearing a wig. He's basically unrecognizable. Holy poo poo, you're right. 
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Patrick Stewart used to audition for roles both with and without a wig and declare that he was 'two actors for the price of one.' 
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I once met a French woman who spoke English with an English accent. If the French person in question is completely fluent (possibly growing up in a bilingual household), and learned English from the English, it's not really surprising.
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Mellow Seas posted:God, Quebec sucks. This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think laicite is necessarily a bad philosophy. I think it's at least a defensible position that symbols of faith/religion be kept strictly divorced of the context of government. I don't agree with it personally and I think it's a little naive to pretend we can keep religious life and political life completely separate. Nonetheless, this bullshit selective enforcement and targeting of specific religions with laicist policies, as well as the public at large as opposed just to public servants, is deplorable.
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Does anyone have people freaking out about the new PARCC test they're taking in schools? My god all the parents I know are losing their minds over it and even pulling their kids out of school because of it. Is this actually a bad program or just more of the people mad at Obama for nothing? http://newjersey.news12.com/news/some-nj-parents-refusing-to-allow-their-children-to-take-parcc-test-1.9997926
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TheJunkyardGod posted:Does anyone have people freaking out about the new PARCC test they're taking in schools? My god all the parents I know are losing their minds over it and even pulling their kids out of school because of it. Parents have objected to standardized testing for some time, but the reactions definitely seem more extreme. You can judge for yourself, try one of the practice tests: http://parcc.pearson.com/practice-tests/english/ (But keep in mind you're not spending 5 days a week being taught to answer questions like this)
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TheJunkyardGod posted:Does anyone have people freaking out about the new PARCC test they're taking in schools? My god all the parents I know are losing their minds over it and even pulling their kids out of school because of it. from what i can gather it's just parents mad and worried about an overreliance on standardized testing and expecially high stakes standardized tests sold in packages by education corps
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TheJunkyardGod posted:Does anyone have people freaking out about the new PARCC test they're taking in schools? My god all the parents I know are losing their minds over it and even pulling their kids out of school because of it. I'd never heard of that particular test before. God drat that's a terrible name. edit: Partnership for Assessment of Readiness for College and Careers The test is given starting in 3rd grade. And that isn't what annual testing is even for. VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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Poizen Jam posted:This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think laicite is necessarily a bad philosophy. I think it's at least a defensible position that symbols of faith/religion be kept strictly divorced of the context of government. I don't agree with it personally and I think it's a little naive to pretend we can keep religious life and political life completely separate. Nonetheless, this bullshit selective enforcement and targeting of specific religions with laicist policies, as well as the public at large as opposed just to public servants, is deplorable. Well.. in theory the idea of a literacy test to vote doesn't sound terrible, it's the application that's so problematic. And in Quebec's case, it is clearly and utterly an anti-Muslim/Sikh in practice even if not in policy. It's impossible to separate the policy from the practice. This isn't a stand for secular government or government neutrality, it's a means of trying to make religious minorities stop dressing so foreign.
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Cpt.Americant posted:Well.. in theory the idea of a literacy test to vote doesn't sound terrible, it's the application that's so problematic. In theory even assuming perfectly equitable and colorblind application of this test, if I can't pass a literacy test because I received a substandard education, how do I influence the government to create programs to mitigate this if I am barred from voting?
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