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mcmagic posted:Yeah but it's going to be less focused around the FRF rares just because it's the 3rd pack. There are going to be some number of times when you open a Citidel Siege or a Dramoka and you're not be able to play it. I'm not going to be surprised if the draft strategy is to move into a clan in the second pack, and then just draft whatever bomb is in your FRF pack and then poach every single piece of fixing possible from the Refuges in every FRF pack to go three color to support your rear end in a top hat Citadel Siege or whatever.
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mcmagic posted:Yeah but it's going to be less focused around the FRF rares just because it's the 3rd pack. There are going to be some number of times when you open a Citidel Siege or a Dramoka and you're not be able to play it. Yo I'm pretty sure I can't play Citidel Siege or Dramoka in any format.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:19
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rabidsquid posted:The most fun part of limited is a really irresponsible splash for a one of you probably shouldn't have drafted. I doubt its all that irresponsible with guaranteed fixing in every FRF pack and the first two packs not being tri-color stuff.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:20
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Mr. Peepers posted:To be frank the breathless "dragons draGONS DRAGONS!!!! It makes sense thematically; Sarkhan is basically a grown up dinosaur-obsessed six year old who managed to turn an entire planet into Jurassic Park.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:22
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" tone of most of the preview articles has gotten kinda ridiculous.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I once double splashed for Olivia Voldaren into a UW deck. It was the right move. She won all sorts of games better mana or another spirit wouldn't have. Also I guess it let me flashback Forbidden Alchemy. I once splashed an INDEX and a Jace Memory Adept in R/B off of literal two islands, but this was 4 pack sealed where Memory Adept may be the most powerful limited card in any format, and where I was more likely to be rewarded for my extreme greed. I was. Angry Grimace posted:I doubt its all that irresponsible with guaranteed fixing in every FRF pack and the first two packs not being tri-color stuff. If you have proper fixing that's not really a splash, that's just your deck.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:22
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I once drafted a five-colour Shimmering Grotto deck in Innistrad, because someone told me not to. I had Grimgrin and Mikaeus, it was glorious.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:27
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rabidsquid posted:I once splashed an INDEX and a Jace Memory Adept in R/B off of literal two islands, but this was 4 pack sealed where Memory Adept may be the most powerful limited card in any format, and where I was more likely to be rewarded for my extreme greed. I was. FRF bombs are a little gross and so far, so are DTK ones, which is what I was worried about.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:28
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rabidsquid posted:I once splashed an INDEX and a Jace Memory Adept in R/B off of literal two islands, but this was 4 pack sealed where Memory Adept may be the most powerful limited card in any format, and where I was more likely to be rewarded for my extreme greed. I was. Jace Memory Adept is nuts in Limited yeah. Similarly Sword of Body and Mind. Anything that says Mill 10 and can be easily repeated is stupid good. We had a guy passed Jace pack 3 in a Chaos Draft (everyone picks any 3 packs) at our store and we all just  at the guy who passed it to him.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:28
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Chamale posted:Why? If you counter a bomb, it's in the graveyard. If you Memory Lapse a bomb, they cast it again soon. I had my Phyrexian Arena lapse'd last night and let me tell you it ruined my tempo forever as the thing I cast to draw cards ended up being drawn twice, and my turn 3 vanished into the abyss. I wept and wailed but it was no use; it was turn 4 and I was in exactly the same shape, except my opponent now had the mana to dissolve my next play or electrolyze my elf. Memory Lapse is a turbo-fucker of tempo plays. it's, like, 4th place in terms of 2cmc counterspells, and that's only because the competition is a disgusting slideshow of reasons they never do that anymore.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:30
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Cernunnos posted:Jace Memory Adept is nuts in Limited yeah. Similarly Sword of Body and Mind. I actually forgot about Sword which comes down much sooner, but has to get a hit in. Tough call. Anything with a repeatable mill 10 in a 30 card deck format is ridiculous though. Imagine a 5 mana PW with 0: Target player gains 4 poison counters. Because it's basically that in 4 pack. I think it edges out Drana and Olivia Voldaren as the most unbeatable limited bombs I have ever played with. At least in 4 pack.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:36
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I dunno, wouldn't two activations of Memory Adept basically always be fatal against a 30 card deck? Seems more like 0: Target player gains 5 poison counters or the Tezz/Vault combo in Vintage.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I dunno, wouldn't two activations of Memory Adept basically always be fatal against a 30 card deck? Seems more like 0: Target player gains 5 poison counters or the Tezz/Vault combo in Vintage. Yeah, even in forty card land, by the time Jace hits the table your opponent has at most 28 or so cards in their deck, so it's a 3 turn clock. In Thirty card it's a one card two-turn clock, which is insane.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:43
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That's just because JaceMA is the bombiest bomb that ever bombed. And they printed it three straight years.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:45
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Ugin's gonna be so pissed off when he wakes ups and finds out that the Mending happened at some point and now he's way less powerful than he was before.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:56
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Angry Grimace posted:Ugin's gonna be so pissed off when he wakes ups and finds out that the Mending happened at some point and now he's way less powerful than he was before. Worst hangover ever.
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Angry Grimace posted:Ugin's gonna be so pissed off when he wakes ups and finds out that the Mending happened at some point and now he's way less powerful than he was before. Ugin solves political problems by flooding the plane with dragons, so he can get hosed. 
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Mar 3, 2015 22:06
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Angry Grimace posted:Ugin's gonna be so pissed off when he wakes ups and finds out that the Mending happened at some point and now he's way less powerful than he was before. Man, Sarkhan could've gone to Dominaria in the past and checked out Shivan Dragons and poo poo. If there's one thing Dominaria likes it's time tomfoolery.
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Mar 3, 2015 22:09
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Mercury Crusader posted:Man, Sarkhan could've gone to Dominaria in the past and checked out Shivan Dragons and poo poo. If there's one thing Dominaria likes it's time tomfoolery. Timefoolery, if you will
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In Return to Tarkir, Renouned Weaponsmith becomes a planeswalker. He time-travels back to the days of the kingdom of Alaborn in the plane of Dominaria during Fate Reloaded. Then he spreads the use of firearms throughout Tarkir for the setting of Guns of Tarkir. There will be enemy fetch lands. Maybe a Metal Gear.
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Rinkles posted:"I was told to make a wall of forest detritus and man-made odds and ends. Later somebody went around my AD and got some poor dude in Production to mutilate it in Photoshop. Thus the illustration you see here and the card don't quite match. Even with the large version I still can't parse that art at all
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Mercury Crusader posted:In Return to Tarkir, Renouned Weaponsmith becomes a planeswalker. He time-travels back to the days of the kingdom of Alaborn in the plane of Dominaria during Fate Reloaded. Then he spreads the use of firearms throughout Tarkir for the setting of Guns of Tarkir. In the second set of that block, Sarkhan and Ugin's children must team up to save the world from the NRA. That'll be the backdrop for Sons of Tarkir.
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Mar 3, 2015 22:27
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When do we get to see Vial of Dragonfire? My money's still on "just as unplayable as Heartpiercer Bow".
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Entropic posted:When do we get to see Vial of Dragonfire? My money's still on "just as unplayable as Heartpiercer Bow". I hope it's the updated, pushed-to-hell aeolipile we all desire and deserve.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I hope it's the updated, pushed-to-hell aeolipile we all desire and deserve. It's just Jitte with Dragon Counters instead of charge counters.
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Attorney at Funk posted:It's just Jitte with Dragon Counters instead of charge counters. A man can dream.
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Mar 3, 2015 22:45
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Functional aethervial reprint at rare here we come!
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Chamale posted:It's OK for a counterspell to be worse than Counterspell and still be playable, just like a burn spell can be worse than Lightning Bolt and still playable. Giving your opponent a 100% chance of drawing a spell next turn is usually worse than casting Counterspell and hoping your opponent has a worse card on top of their deck. When we're ignoring mana costs, Memory Lapse is worse than a hard counter, but it's a good card because it costs 1U to cast. There are other 1U counterspells that may or may not be better than Memory Lapse, like Mana Leak and Remove Soul, that depend on context. In cube there are a lot of situations where "top of the deck" is actually a better target destination for the opponent's spell than the graveyard. Especially if your cube is like mine and has a significant amount of graveyard interaction. It definitely all depends on context, which is my point, countering to the top of the library is not a drawback in the same way as losing life or exiling cards from your hand would be. It's just part of what the spell does.
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There are a few situations, but a hard counter is generally stronger because your opponent will not be able to use that card again. That means you can selectively shoot down their outs. That's not to say that Memory Lapse can't be a great tempo play, but it's clearly not as good as a 1U Counterspell would be.
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Angry Grimace posted:How does a person who hates dragons exist?
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Veyrall posted:I'm just glad there are more people than just me who don't think dragons are cool. You're not alone. And hell, you're not wrong either.
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You know, I was convinced I'd never see a fetchland in a FRF pack. Then, bought a couple of packs at Target today, got a Wooded Foothills in the last pack. Worth more than the other rares, so yay! Also, all this talk about not liking dragons makes me feel like more of a minority for wanting to build my dream commander deck around Scion of the Ur-Dragon. 
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InterrupterJones posted:Also, all this talk about not liking dragons makes me feel like more of a minority for wanting to build my dream commander deck around Scion of the Ur-Dragon. That sounds rad as hell.
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Given the number of sets and settings WotC has to make for Magic, especially now that they put out two unique blocks each year, it was pretty much inevitable that we'd get Dragon World eventually. If you don't like dragons, that's cool, but this set isn't for you. Both Avacyn Restored and Dragons of Tarkir are standalone big sets, so it's not like we're seeing old-school 3 set blocks with these heavy tribal themes like we might have in olden times. I am disappointed that they couldn't figure out a balanced dragon that could be a common.
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whydirt posted:Given the number of sets and settings WotC has to make for Magic, especially now that they put out two unique blocks each year, it was pretty much inevitable that we'd get Dragon World eventually. If you don't like dragons, that's cool, but this set isn't for you. Both Avacyn Restored and Dragons of Tarkir are standalone big sets, so it's not like we're seeing old-school 3 set blocks with these heavy tribal themes like we might have in olden times. Look if they print a 1R Dragon that's Legacy playable they can do whatever the gently caress they want
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InterrupterJones posted:Also, all this talk about not liking dragons makes me feel like more of a minority for wanting to build my dream commander deck around Scion of the Ur-Dragon. Nah, don't feel bad, all these rad dragons (plus OG Kolaghan) makes me want to make something in Grixis colors that basically results in "dragons smash".  (of course I also want to make a commander deck around Alesha And Her ETB Trigger Homies so I know that feel)
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TheKingofSprings posted:Look if they print a 1R Dragon that's Legacy playable they can do whatever the gently caress they want Kickass Valuedragon 1R Creature- Dragon Flying When ~ enters the battlefield, sacrifice a nonbasic land. 3/2  obviously way too strong for standard. maybe if I changed it to "sacrifice two lands?"
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Kickass Valuedragon That sounds awful
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TheKingofSprings posted:That sounds awful As worded, it's just 2 mana for a 3/2 flying as long as you have only basic lands, which seems ok to me.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Kickass Valuedragon Destroy target land you control, Sea Drake style.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Kickass Valuedragon Sac two lands would suck I think. Sac a nonbasic would make it niche, but Legacy-playable in Burn possibly. Comedy option: 3/4 Flying Haste sac two nonbasics. Definitely playable in Burn (which doesn't run nonbasics usually)
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