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rovert posted:Like I've been saying Regal has been gaining power while Demott's has decreased. Considering how fond of Regal Hunter is, I'm shocked Regal hasn't been the head trainer from the beginning.
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fart blood posted:I kinda wonder how guys like KENTA, Devitt, Steen, etc would react to Demott's actions if he tried that on them (assuming this is all true.) That kind of poo poo is probably par for the course in the dojos Devitt and KENTA came up in.
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fart blood posted:Considering how fond of Regal Hunter is, I'm shocked Regal hasn't been the head trainer from the beginning. *MS Office joke* Regal is also really soft spoken. Imagine him shouting across the Performance Center with 90 people in it working out in various forms and 6 rings squeaking and banging away. I don't think he is the guy. He can also be very aloof/weird at times. Some people are kind of disappointed after meeting him.
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Mar 3, 2015 15:53
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triplexpac posted:Again, not trying to defend Demott, but I'd say one of the most important skills a wrestler can have in the modern style is cardio. So it would make sense for basically all the drills to be cardio & bumping for a long while. It's not like you can just skip all that, do your 2 minute Raw matches, then all of a sudden train cardio when Vince decides to put you in a main event on a whim. Yeah, but they're not training for cardio, they're trying to break the new guys like. If their cardiovascular improves it's a nice side effect. At least in a New Japan dojo they learn how to wrestle. WWE for a while produced nothing but a bunch of impressive bodies that looked worthless the second they talked or even moved.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Yeah, but they're not training for cardio, they're trying to break the new guys like. If their cardiovascular improves it's a nice side effect. At least in a New Japan dojo they learn how to wrestle. WWE for a while produced nothing but a bunch of impressive bodies that looked worthless the second they talked or even moved. Won't hear a bad word about copying a system that worked 
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I'm not entirely sure the powerplant wasn't some sort of political move by the guys on top in WCW to ensure there'd be no new talent to take their spots.
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LordPants posted:Ring Of Honor and to a lesser extent the other indies seriously has been the best feeder territory for them. It is going to be interesting to see if all this money they put into their Performance Centre pays off down the road and they show a better track record of developing talent in house. As of now their top "developmental" guys are all from indies or Japanese feds and are better than most of the people on the main roster.
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Mar 3, 2015 16:16
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God, the Natural Born Thrillers were just the worst. They were the most average group of guys ever (except for Mike Sanders, obviously), so it's not like there's even some ironic enjoyment to get out of them. rare Magic card l00k fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Mar 3, 2015 16:20
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rovert posted:He can also be very aloof/weird at times. Some people are kind of disappointed after meeting him. How so?
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Muddy Burphy posted:How so? I think people just come in with too high expectations and think he is going to regale them with stories or something. But he is someone who has fought through "demons" and has a melancholy side.
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Thauros posted:It is going to be interesting to see if all this money they put into their Performance Centre pays off down the road and they show a better track record of developing talent in house. As of now their top "developmental" guys are all from indies or Japanese feds and are better than most of the people on the main roster. I feel like the non-indy/Japan talent have gotten better since the influx of talent due to working with these guys so much.
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rovert posted:I think people just come in with too high expectations and think he is going to regale them with stories or something. But he is someone who has fought through "demons" and has a melancholy side. I'm shocked, I thought English people were known for their warmth and being outgoing.
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And when you consider his bombastic commentary style, that really goes against type.
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Really curious as to the thought process of keeping Demott. It's not like you can point to any main roster guys and say they for sure wouldn't be there without Demott's help.
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I'd say just hand Billy Gunn the keys with Regal and Steamboat as advisors. I'm no huge fan of Billy's work, but he understands the basics of ring psychology and the WWE style, is probably more than capable of getting in somebody's face WHEN NEEDED, and most importantly, he's Mr.rear end.
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Did DeMott train people at the Power Plant? I know the regimen there from DeWayne Bruce was nothing but extreme cardio and strength training.triplexpac posted:Reading more of the Jan 5 1998 Observer issue this morning. The ECW review is hilarious, I'm shocked that WWE chose to not put this stuff on the Network. I like how Dave clarified for everyone what a bong was, just in case. Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'd say just hand Billy Gunn the keys with Regal and Steamboat as advisors. I'm no huge fanof Billy's work, but he understands the basics of ring psychology and the WWE style, is probably more than capable of getting in somebody's face WHEN NEEDED, and most importantly, he's Mr.rear end. Billy is in incredible shape for a 51 year old who has been wrestling for two and a half decades. I'd want him teaching guys at NXT just for the secret to keeping healthy for that long.
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Great White Hope posted:Billy is in incredible shape for a 51 year old who has been wrestling for two and a half decades. I'd want him teaching guys at NXT just for the secret to keeping healthy for that long. Step 1) Get in a tag team where the other guy has to do all the selling
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Great White Hope posted:Billy is in incredible shape for a 51 year old who has been wrestling for two and a half decades. I'd want him teaching guys at NXT just for the secret to keeping healthy for that long. Be the guy who sits around saying "and if you ain't down with that, I got two words for ya"
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This all sounds like great advice and I'm looking forward to Mark and Jay Asscoe.
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sportsgenius86 posted:I feel like the non-indy/Japan talent have gotten better since the influx of talent due to working with these guys so much. Other than the main event, NXT would be wise to pair an indie darling with an in-house product to help develop talent. That way someone like Baron Corbin can focus on having the best match of his career every night, while someone like Finn Bálor can focus on playing to the hard camera the best he ever has while having a relatively vanilla match.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Did DeMott train people at the Power Plant? I know the regimen there from DeWayne Bruce was nothing but extreme cardio and strength training. I think it's more that that used to be how wrestling schools worked*. You take their money, you work em till they're too sick of the bullshit, or too beat up to keep going, and pocket the cash. The few that stay, you maybe teach the basics and get them a couple bookings, then tell them they owe you 10% of all their future earnings. *Yeah, yeah, I know. "Used to?".
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triplexpac posted:Step 1) Get in a tag team where the other guy has to do all the selling Step 2. Do a lot of steroids.
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LordPants posted:Ring Of Honor and to a lesser extent the other indies seriously has been the best feeder territory for them. it's neither surprising nor embarrassing that people who have been working a bunch of big matches around the country and world are developing better than people who haven't people seem to think that the national promotions taking the best talent from the territories is something that's unsustainable and will be the death of the WWE, instead of it being hte way wrestling has worked since the time that there's been national promotions
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triplexpac posted:Reading more of the Jan 5 1998 Observer issue this morning. The ECW review is hilarious, I'm shocked that WWE chose to not put this stuff on the Network. I like these two bits: quote:There were several fights in the stands in New York and a woman did take off her top, which is kind of becoming the in-thing at the New York shows. Fights, tits, poo poo wrestling!
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ch3cooh posted:I like these two bits: 
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ch3cooh posted:Fights, tits, poo poo wrestling! i'm looking forward to seeing Dave's reaction at this combination causing the hottest period in wrestling for some time
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Alain Post posted:i'm looking forward to seeing Dave's reaction at this combination causing the hottest period in wrestling for some time It's kind of eerie, in this weeks old Observer he notes that "There wasn't much wrestling (20 minutes in a two hour show) but the Raw on 12/29 from the Nassau Coliseum was maybe the best Raw in a while" Of course they had a much better show than us, featuring "Goldust dressed up as the New Year baby in a diaper with a large bottle doing his reading with the exaggerated stereotypical voice. Steve Austin came out and they dropped (clumsily I might add) an outhouse from the ceiling and Austin put Goldust in it twice, turning it over the second time"
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triplexpac posted:Step 1) Get in a tag team where the other guy has to do all the selling It's how Roman got to be in the main event of mania.
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triplexpac posted:It's kind of eerie, in this weeks old Observer he notes that "There wasn't much wrestling (20 minutes in a two hour show) but the Raw on 12/29 from the Nassau Coliseum was maybe the best Raw in a while"  I had no recollection of this but, uh, yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXEGabD2a5k
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Nerokerubina posted:it's neither surprising nor embarrassing that people who have been working a bunch of big matches around the country and world are developing better than people who haven't No, it's embarrassing that a multi million dollar company can't develop their own talent. Especially when you realise they had NO TROUBLE doing it themselves when it was OVW (who produced the current crop of stars). FCW has for the most part just 'retrained' a bunch of ROH guys.
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Didn't Batista hate OVW because they never actually taught him anything, and he mostly got where he was in spite of them?
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LordPants posted:No, it's embarrassing that a multi million dollar company can't develop their own talent. Especially when you realise they had NO TROUBLE doing it themselves when it was OVW (who produced the current crop of stars). FCW has for the most part just 'retrained' a bunch of ROH guys. Rusev, Wyatt, Dean Ambrose and Roman Reigns are not ROH guys.
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Benne posted:Didn't Batista hate OVW because they never actually taught him anything, and he mostly got where he was in spite of them? Yeah apparently they thought he was the bee's knees but he didn't like it there. 
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OVW taught him only what he needed to know to be a well protected big man and Batista did not appreciate that.
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OVW only booked Batista in 5 minute squashes when he actually wanted to learn how to work so he isn't the fondest of his days there e; what ultimo said
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Speaking of FCW Dave's line about The Wolves in FCW was funny (it was pretty much) "You saw a match between the Wolves and The Ascension and you picked The Ascension? You can pass on The Wolves because Davey Richards is an rear end in a top hat but that wasn't the reason that they did!"
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