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TEAYCHES posted:whats the problem with a nuclear energy iran, constantly inspected, and how is it any more dangerous than a nuclear armed israel, which doesnt even declare its nuclear arsenal? because then the right doesnt get to use one of its boogeymen anymore
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nutranurse posted:now imagine that, but its your body Raskolnikov38 posted:hey it opened the door didn't it Still probably better than most military doctors.
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I support an Iranian nuclear deterrent to Israeli aggression all the sadder that Mossad agrees that they arent even doing that
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i hope iran's government falls to a revolution in my lifetime.
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a lot of people don't want Iran to have nukes because then Saudi Arabia would get them and then use them because Wahbbists are fucknuts crazy.
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TEAYCHES posted:whats the problem with a nuclear energy iran, constantly inspected, and how is it any more dangerous than a nuclear armed israel, which doesnt even declare its nuclear arsenal? There's a fear in the government and in the US in general that Iran is a revisionist state that actually believes what people like Ahmadinejad say. Of course, in reality, Iran is a very cool-headed, realist-minded, non-ideological state - not a very nice one, but what are you gonna do. The point is, if Americans realized that a nuclear Iran probably wouldn't nuke Israel, or the US, or anyone, it wouldn't be as contentious an issue - especially if they realized that a state that can build a peaceful nuclear reactor can't automatically also build a nuclear weapon. Americans don't know how nuclear poo poo works, and that's a bigger issue than is automatically obvious.
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TEAYCHES posted:I support an Iranian nuclear deterrent to Israeli aggression That's not what Mossad said in those memos at all. It would be nice if people bothered reading the full thing instead of just going off the conclusions Al Jazeera and the Guardian came to. ETA: Also, isn't there another thread for this rubbish?
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Volkerball posted:i hope iran's government falls to a revolution in my lifetime. I don't because the ME has enough failed states with out Iran cluttering up the mix. If I want anyone gone it's the loving Saudis.
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Majorian posted:There's a fear in the government and in the US in general that Iran is a revisionist state that actually believes what people like Ahmadinejad say. Of course, in reality, Iran is a very cool-headed, realist-minded, non-ideological state - not a very nice one, but what are you gonna do. The point is, if Americans realized that a nuclear Iran probably wouldn't nuke Israel, or the US, or anyone, it wouldn't be as contentious an issue - especially if they realized that a state that can build a peaceful nuclear reactor can't automatically also build a nuclear weapon. lmbo
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Venom Snake posted:I don't because the ME has enough failed states with out Iran cluttering up the mix. If I want anyone gone it's the loving Saudis. I'd like to see them both go, but if I had to pick one, it'd be Iran because I'm smart.
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Volkerball posted:lmbo The Iranian head of state didn't just try to undermine the President and imply that 88 million people are insane retarded uncontrollable barbarians hell bent on the destruction of all life on earth. Iran: 1 Israel: 0
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The Iranian State is ready to launch into full jihad, watch Khamenei start a loving nuclear war.
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Volkerball posted:I'd like to see them both go, but if I had to pick one, it'd be Iran because I'm smart. I don't see what's smart about that. Iran has democratic institutions ready for a revamp. Saudi Arabia has a monarchy in an uneasy truce with a theocracy fueled by oil revenues, which are slowly dropping. Iran is the pro pick here.
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Venom Snake posted:The Iranian head of state didn't just try to undermine the President and imply that 88 million people are insane retarded uncontrollable barbarians hell bent on the destruction of all life on earth. That's a really stupid comparison. I mean, it's one thing to say that Israeli and American policies towards Iran are stupid, it's another thing to ignore them funding Hezbollah and other terrorist/national liberation groups, in some case straight-up terror (unless blowing up Jewish cultural centers is "resistance").
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Venom Snake posted:The Iranian head of state didn't just try to undermine the President and imply that 88 million people are insane retarded uncontrollable barbarians hell bent on the destruction of all life on earth. They're also inching ever closer to calling it the United States instead of the Great Satan. Progress!
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Volkerball posted:I'd like to see them both go, but if I had to pick one, it'd be Iran because I'm smart. Yeah because Iran killed 3,000 Americans and pushed us into a war that killed 1 million Iraqi's. Oh wait.
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"bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" - united states presidential candidate. death to america
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Volkerball posted:They're also inching ever closer to calling it the United States instead of the Great Satan. Progress! whats the end game other than constant ratcheting up of rhetoric and saber rattling
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I don't see what's smart about that. Iran has democratic institutions ready for a revamp. Saudi Arabia has a monarchy in an uneasy truce with a theocracy fueled by oil revenues, which are slowly dropping. Iran is the pro pick here. Do they really tho. When the people's revolution starts sending people to the guillotine, i doubt they will spare the assembly of experts so that they can elect a new supreme leader
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Absurd Alhazred posted:That's a really stupid comparison. I mean, it's one thing to say that Israeli and American policies towards Iran are stupid, it's another thing to ignore them funding Hezbollah and other terrorist/national liberation groups, in some case straight-up terror (unless blowing up Jewish cultural centers is "resistance"). Neither Israel nor Iran could in any capacity can be called cool headed. But so far only 1 has attempted to gently caress the United States, and it's not Iran. Volkerball posted:They're also inching ever closer to calling it the United States instead of the Great Satan. Progress! Who cares what they call it, the ayatollah isn't actively attempting to disrupt US elections.
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iran stands a reasonable chance of a civilian/normal military coup to eliminate the parasitic religious apparatus and military
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Venom Snake posted:Yeah because Iran killed 3,000 Americans and pushed us into a war that killed 1 million Iraqi's.  TEAYCHES posted:whats the end game other than constant ratcheting up of rhetoric and saber rattling i don't know but there's a balance between not just being aggressive for sake of it and not being neville chamberlain
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Volkerball posted:i don't know but there's a balance between not just being aggressive for sake of it and not being neville chamberlain wait so are we talking about modern iran 2015 or nazi germany 1938
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Volkerball posted:
How is negotiating a deal with Iran being Neville Chamberlain? And Saudi Arabia had royalty that directly funded the 9/11 attackers, and then pushed us to go to war with Iraq because "Saddam Hussein will invade ANY DAY NOW".
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TEAYCHES posted:whats the end game other than constant ratcheting up of rhetoric and saber rattling the end game is dialing back the rhetoric and saber rattling and letting the ME states continue their influence wars amongst themselves without using nuclear weapons
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Remember how everyone thought North Korea would nuke Japan and South Korea the minute they got the bomb?
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TEAYCHES posted:wait so are we talking about modern iran 2015 or nazi germany 1938 we're talking about a country that currently has soldiers and militias in syria and iraq slaughtering civilians and propping up dictatorial regimes, and that helped overthrow the government in yemen to set up another one. and that's just within the last few months. ksa like, gave bahrain money and gave guns to the islamic front.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the end game is dialing back the rhetoric and saber rattling and letting the ME states continue their influence wars amongst themselves without using nuclear weapons that is not at all going to happen, and is a silly fiction. as time goes forward nuclear capability is easier and easier, no one can stop Iran other than an invasion. Iran should be a natural ally, they should be friends, not our enemies.
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Jagchosis posted:booooo Leak classified documents, become a goon superstar, cozy up to a foreign strongman and live the rest of your life straight balling
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Volkerball posted:we're talking about a country that currently has soldiers and militias in syria and iraq slaughtering civilians and propping up dictatorial regimes, and that helped overthrow the government in yemen to set up another one. wait so are you talking about the United States or Iran?
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Venom Snake posted:Neither Israel nor Iran could in capacity be called cool headed. But so far only 1 has attempted to gently caress the United States, and it's not Iran.  An Israeli prime minister mucking around in US politics through speeechhesss is not at that level, sorry.
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Volkerball posted:we're talking about a country that currently has soldiers and militias in syria and iraq slaughtering civilians and propping up dictatorial regimes, and that helped overthrow the government in yemen to set up another one. and that's just within the last few months. ksa like, gave bahrain money and gave guns to the islamic front. There isn't an irony cat big enough.
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TEAYCHES posted:that is not at all going to happen, and is a silly fiction. i don't think we should be friends with any sectarian government thats response to opposition politics is to kill everyone, personally
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this bracket was designed by an idiot, the tiny amount of people that are so influential even i recognize their names are nowhere near the top seed positions
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Volkerball posted:i don't think we should be friends with any sectarian government thats response to opposition politics is to kill everyone, personally good joke
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Absurd Alhazred posted:
Bibi literally campaigned for Obama's replacement. That's some prime loving right there.
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