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Powershift posted:Multiple. definitely multiple MPGs
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InitialDave posted:Well, they have to go through the same cycle as any regular car for the testing, so it's not going to be that far out. It'd be hilarious if the testing included "X minutes full-throttle under load, Y miles at manufacturer-claimed top speed" or whatever. Yeah, but the murcielago was only rated at 8/13. Even the gallardo which is basically the size of a focus, only wider, was 12/20.
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Mar 3, 2015 21:10
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I don't know if it was posted yet but Ford said that they will build 250 GTs a year, for "several years" and price them at $400,000. http://jalopnik.com/ford-will-make-250-gts-every-year-priced-around-lambo-1689236425
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That's dissapointing as hell. WIth all their research into cheap mass market carbon fiber, and the fact that it's using an off the shelf production block, and existing tech almost everywhere else, you would think that it couldn't cost anywhere near that to engineer and build.
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Powershift posted:That's dissapointing as hell. You and I both know they will sell every last one of these, there will be waiting lists, the whole deal. Not like I could have afforded one anyway so it might as well be $1,400,000.
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Mar 4, 2015 04:34
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They'd sell every one they built at $150k and 1000+ a year too. They might have stars in their eyes from seeing 05 GTs going for $300,000, but this is miles away from those cars. I can't see it out outperforming the aventador or C7 Z06. it really is just a homologation special for lemans. $150k is a "maybe some day" car. $400k and 250 a year is pretty much untouchable.
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The first time I read it, my brain made the jump from GT to GT350 and then I was very sad and confused. As it is, I can't say I really care. I like Fords, but I can't say I'd have one that's north of even $100k. There's some very stiff competition at that level.
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Mar 4, 2015 05:50
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I hope Clarkson buys one and it's constantly broken again.
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Every year I go on the Porsche website and see how much I could pay for a car with less horsepower than a V6 Mustang. So I guess what I am saying is that $150k isn't much these days.
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Mar 4, 2015 06:40
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Oh man it's happening http://uk.advfn.com/news/DJN/2015/article/65710018 Hoping for a Mazda-Chrysler merger within 2 years.
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Mar 4, 2015 11:20
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Throatwarbler posted:Every year I go on the Porsche website and see how much I could pay for a car with less horsepower than a V6 Mustang. Christ, that's an ugly color.
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Mar 4, 2015 11:49
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I hope Clarkson buys one and it's constantly broken again.
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Throatwarbler posted:Every year I go on the Porsche website and see how much I could pay for a car with less horsepower than a V6 Mustang. Carbon brakes are an expensive gimmick Throatwarbler posted:Oh man it's happening You're pretty morbid if you hope to see something in good health starve, languish, and die an agonizing slow death for everyone to see
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Mar 4, 2015 14:42
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Taco Box posted:Christ, that's an ugly color.  Porsche know their demographics, the color is familiar and comforting you know.
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Mar 4, 2015 15:51
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Throatwarbler posted:Oh man it's happening VW might be the ones that need it. Mazda is barely behind them in sales in the US and will pull ahead in the next month or two. Looks like delaying their CUV's and not offering the interesting things they make in favor of decontented, boring poo poo is really paying off.
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Mar 4, 2015 16:59
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Mr. Apollo posted:I don't think it was the car itself that was the problem but rather the alarm system, installed by a third party, that he was required to have by law. I remember him mentioning a few times that the car simply wouldn't turn on and had to be hauled away by a truck for repair. I suppose the alarm system could've been doing that, but either way it was hilarious and I would love for it to happen to him all over again.
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Mar 4, 2015 17:48
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Is Porsche the king of letting you kill yourself with insane options? Like you can easily get a base Boxster up to $120,000...or you can get a 911 Carrera GTS with a decent sprinkling of extras for about the same money.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I remember him mentioning a few times that the car simply wouldn't turn on and had to be hauled away by a truck for repair. I suppose the alarm system could've been doing that, but either way it was hilarious and I would love for it to happen to him all over again. I'm guessing the alarm was immobilizing it or something. More to the point, why the gently caress would you need an alarm by law? That sounds utterly retarded, considering no one ever pays attention to an alarm going off anyway.
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Mar 4, 2015 17:50
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His insurance required it.
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Mar 4, 2015 17:59
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That's hilarious. Does anyone, anywhere, actually pay attention to car alarms going off?
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fknlo posted:VW might be the ones that need it. Mazda is barely behind them in sales in the US and will pull ahead in the next month or two. Looks like delaying their CUV's and not offering the interesting things they make in favor of decontented, boring poo poo is really paying off. VW certainly doesn't need it - have you looked at anything outside of US sales?
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PT6A posted:That's hilarious. Does anyone, anywhere, actually pay attention to car alarms going off? My buddy has a fun aftermarket alarm that comes with a two-way pager inside the keyfob. It vibrates and chimes when it detects something that might be a theft in progress. Caught a hit and run driver with it; they were at a fancy restaurant, the pager freaks out, he gets up and looks out the window and someone in a Tacoma is gawping at the dent he put in his bumper before turning and getting in the truck to take off. So they do work, but you need to have rational self-interest. 
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Mar 4, 2015 19:13
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PT6A posted:That's hilarious. Does anyone, anywhere, actually pay attention to car alarms going off? It really doesn't matter if people around the car noticed. His alarm was the equivalent of lojack or OnStar. If it went off, it phoned home and someone disabled the ignition. The problem was, the thing kept going off and phoning home while he was driving. He would get a phone call with the person saying at the other end that his car was stolen and they were going to shut it down WHILE he was driving.
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More coverage of the Koenigsegg Regera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ns3XEkpsc&t=649s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWm8xEapjuQ 2000nm from 2500 to 7000rpm  150kph to 250kph in 3.2 seconds 
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Mar 4, 2015 21:39
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I feel like it isn't going to sound cool without gear changes  No bark, no spitting flames, no hearing redline in any practical scenario short of a huge runway
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Mar 4, 2015 21:49
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Party Alarm posted:I feel like it isn't going to sound cool without gear changes Sound doesn't matter when you are outrunning it. 
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Mar 4, 2015 21:52
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This is insane, like seriously some next level poo poo. I should be in Geneva this Friday/Saturday if everything goes right - will try to get my rear end into as many of these as they let me 
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^^^^ See if you can catch a chat with Christian Von Koenigsegg, I hear he's a totally cool dude. In the Evo video, they talk about the exhaust, which isn't where it appears to be. The actual exhaust from the engine goes to two fishtail titanium exhausts that are part of the venturis. Apparently they will sound like 8000rpm at 4000rpm because of the way they resonate. I can't wait to see the reviews begin to appear. I'm pretty sure Porsche, McLaren and Ferrari are busy going "well, I'll be damned..." right now.
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It sounds very similar to the system in the new Accord hybrid just with heaps more power. http://www.caranddriver.com/features/explaining-the-honda-accords-shrewdly-designed-new-hybrid-system-tech-dept
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Party Alarm posted:I feel like it isn't going to sound cool without gear changes Sounding like a spaceship makes up for it though so it's cool.
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Ineptus Mechanicus posted:
RIP Richard Briers
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:VW certainly doesn't need it - have you looked at anything outside of US sales? No manufacturer should get into bed with chrysler. They killed mitsubishi in the US. When chrysler was dying down here in Australia due to the 70s oil crisis, they also looked towards mitsubishi for smaller models When large chrysler cars and dealerships died completely down here, mitsubishi took over the whole lot. Look where it got them. The merc partnership as well. It's not going to go well with fiat either is my prediction. Mazda have been partnered with ford since 1980 or something. I like mazda, so I don't want them anywhere near a chrysler, they're poison. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Mr. Wiggles posted:Sounding like a spaceship makes up for it though so it's cool. I remember seeing part of a documentary about the bike from The Dark Knight. Apparently they didn't want it to sound like it had gears, but they did want it to make a constant acceleration sound, so they created a special tone which constantly sounded like building revs, without ever running out of pitch range. If this thing revs to over 8000 rpm, and 4000 rpm sounds like 8000 due to the exhaust design, plus the space-ship like noises of those motors, I don't think it will be boring.
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Fo3 posted:No manufacturer should get into bed with chrysler. They killed mitsubishi in the US. When chrysler was dying down here in Australia due to the 70s oil crisis, they also looked towards mitsubishi for smaller models I don't think it was Chrysler that killed Benz in that deal, and the Fiat deal so far has been amazing for Chrysler, with FIAT being the group that can't seem to market a decent enough car to have a hit.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I remember seeing part of a documentary about the bike from The Dark Knight. Apparently they didn't want it to sound like it had gears, but they did want it to make a constant acceleration sound, so they created a special tone which constantly sounded like building revs, without ever running out of pitch range. That's pretty badass - it's called a Shepard Tone. I didn't know they used it in that movie, but it's a genius idea for automotive applications. Might get a little annoying on your commute though.
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eyebeem posted:I don't think it was Chrysler that killed Benz in that deal, and the Fiat deal so far has been amazing for Chrysler, with FIAT being the group that can't seem to market a decent enough car to have a hit. The 500. Panda, and punto have all been very successful. Also commercial vehicles, Ferrari seems to be successful, etc.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:The 500. Panda, and punto have all been very successful. Also commercial vehicles, Ferrari seems to be successful, etc. I'm only talking about their inroads into the US, given we are discussing the Chrysler deal.
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In that case, whatever van that is they've been building in Europe forever and is the promaster now - this us becoming very successful commercially
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Fo3 posted:No manufacturer should get into bed with chrysler. While I agree with this to an extent... Fo3 posted:They killed mitsubishi in the US. No, what slaughtered Mitsubishi was giving away ridiculously stupid financing to anyone and everyone who would scribble a name on some paper. It only brought customers in who couldn't afford a car anywhere else (the cars still weren't good enough new to get anyone else in the doors), and those customers couldn't afford to take care of them either. So when they showed up used (or repossessed) they were in poo poo shape, resulting in massive depreciation. They've been shuffling around waiting for death ever since. Fo3 posted:The merc partnership as well. It's not going to go well with fiat either is my prediction. Nah, that one went the other way around. Mercedes got a decent bit out of that phase (mostly, cash). Chrysler didn't get a whole lot of anything. And the Ford/Mazda partnership is all but dead; the last vestige of that is that both companies still use engines derived from their shared DOHC four-cylinder.
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I don't know why it always suprises me to learn that Mitsubishi is still in business (on the consumer automotive side, anyway). I've always thought their cars were poo poo (aside from early Monteros). And ugly. Plus I rarely see them on the road.
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